The hate votes are always more powerful than the luurve votes.

Sad summation of human nature really.

That's where I am at.

exactly!!!!

I dislike Steve...   but there are people who I dislike more passionately that will get my vote...  also...  I think everyone knows that come the vote to win... he won't get the votes... so my evict vote will go to a "contender" that I dislike.....

so is corin - you were right - they peaked too soon - trouble is of lets the likes of Steve an d JJ2 in - re maths thread

and me

Steve, JJ2,Corin and Mario will fall by the wayside I think.. it'll be down to Dave, JJ1, Josie & Sam I like green eggs and ham...


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Night everybody - up early tomorrow

I can't believe that BB honestly think this is a good idea!

I have stood by that bloody BB all these years, against conspiracy theories, "chosen" housemates, attempts to save certain HMs.......and then in the very last week of the very last series they go and let me down.

its how the show has evolved....  and after this year, its the comforting thought I have when I think about it ending (in its current format anyway)...

it wasn't about hate in the early years...    but then people started to get off on it...   the seeds were sown with "Nasty Nick" (who was a totally wet big girls blouse... who got called nasty for trying to influence noms!!   but imo his "dead girlfriend" bullshit story was his lowest hour... but even so... nothing compared to todays villans)....  

I will never forget the first one... finding out about the downs syndrome girl AFTER Craig won...  (I now know it had been in the press... but I didn't know about it until after he came out of the house)...  I was so happy that night... it restored my faith in the general public.

Its come a long way from that these days... its ALL about the hate!

And mine ............................she spent the first three or four weeks with her head in a make up bag - popping up now and then to tell everyone that she was buzzin or lovin it .............whilst keeping under the radar. Since she's surfaced all I've seen is fake, fake, fake .................Jo confirmed it tonight. She waits for the camera to zoom in and says all the right things.

Don't like her ...............the whole JJ2 thing was pretty annoying too ...........she's in a relationship outside the house FGS. The girl is ruthless IMO.

Yes... I think she probably is

I always think there are two simple questions you have to ask yourself..

Would you go into the Big Brother house?

What do you think of people prepared to be in the Big Brother house?


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YES!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was the only one to remember that! I've never understood the fixation on the noms thing

I agree Soozy...    she's a closet desperate!

I was in France on holiday when the Nasty Nick bollox kicked off using a very early version of mobile internet trying to find out what the big deal was


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possibly!

I used to really really really want to go in.... and the only reasons for my reluctance now are that I am actually very media shy...    and cos I would never ever be able to come back on the forum again! 

for years I have wished I could be in there with them....   in the early years I envied them the amount of sleep they got (when they were just allowed to sleep)...   then I would envy them the lack of responsibilities...   then in some years the laughs, banter & tasks etc.

See.... I've always struggled with this question.

There's no way on gods earth I would go in that house...... but that's due to my own insecurites rather than any deep moral misgivings, I think? I'm not interested in the fame part of it (actually that's the bit that puts me off), but it just looks like so much fun!

I've always said I would LOVE to do big brother as long as it wasn't filmed

I do honestly believe that there are SOME HM's that are in there just for the experience. They are probably seriously in the minority now though.

me too!!!

and a whole lot more that turn up at auditions that just want that too!

I know it's true because it's the only motivation I would ever have for doing it.

I can go along with the 'wanting the experience' .. especially in the early days.. I wouldn't go near it from the publicity point of view but I quite like the basic concept of umpteen strangers thrown together and see what happens.. type of thing


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I would never, ever apply to go on BB ...................i am  well aware of my failings ................I argue a bit like JJ1 trying to talk over everyone and everything (not an attractive traight I know) - even though I am a really lovely person - I just know I'd end up looking bad 

Yep ...me too. And that's why I hate all the over the top reaction to the rows and the cries of "bully". It should represent real life....and in real life people row, people raise their voices when they row, people don't mean every single word that comes out of their mouths, people are nice one minute, crabby the next.......


.....do I need to go on?

I think I would still have risked it for a biscuit... had I not been on the forums...  I think I could have weathered the booing...  the initial bleurgh when you get out...   

but from being on here.. knowing that people would hate me because I had my thumb in my gob... or, cos I nominated someone of my own gender, or (most probably) cos I laughed and mucked about with the housemate deemed as an evil vile bully....  

Ickle was determined to go in...   I am thankful its finishing ....   cos after much discussion I had said if she went to auditions... I would go with her .... we'd go as a pair...  Cos I'd rather be in there with her.... than out here trying not to read about her.

oh.. & it was her plan for her Gap Year...     so obviously she wasn't wanting it for the fame either...  just for the experience.   Cos she has been brought up on it

No  If someone spoke to me the way some of the HMs speak to each other I'd deck them, no warning just thwack.  I do have a red heads temper I'm afraid.

I think every one of us would Soozy.

People are harsh!

^^^^^ There.....that is the full extent of personal learning I have gleaned from 11 series of BB.

me too!

ANd even worse....  though My daughter is a lovely girl, with a really really good heart...   she is still a teenager... and I KNOW she'd get ripped apart on here.

You used the word crabby 'snigger'

People critisise people for doing or saying things way way tamer... than the person doing the critising!

OMG......and I actually thought about the connection as I typed it! The word crabby will never be the same again!

Uh huh! Uh huh! Uh huh!

I would end up putting an untenable distance between peoples heads and the rest of their bodies if I was a housemate


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I really hate the bully cry...    cos it undermines real bullying.    Real bullying tends not to be the obvious row in your face thing...   its alot harder to see than that.   I know this from experience.  Real bullying is very very subtle.

I'm amazed my son (now aged 28) never auditioned ........he's an avid fan like me. I know I would have found it excrutiating because he is a love/hate sort of person. Although I say it Myself - he is lovely lookign but .............much like JJ very argumentative - at the same time extremely irritating - I'm watching Sam Pepper and .............it's soooooooooo like my son ...........never knows when to stop his infantile pranks.

I'm so glad he never went in the BB house.

I have always said...   the first three weeks would be the hardest for me... 

I would be in the corner of a room in the house...   crouched, hugging knees.. rocking back & forth!

from the way you describe him...  he would probably have stood a very good chance of getting in as well!  

Can you imagine though Soozy...   can you imagine your kid in there... knowing you shouldn't look on the forums... but not being able to not look...   and how reading all this shit would make you feel!

Its why I got the hump last year when everyone was slating Sophie...    I was horrified!   She was just a run of the mill young girl...  flawed - yes!   But the things people were saying about her!

I would never be able to do it in reality...... I love the idea of the experience but it would be hell on earth for me. If I don't get two hours a day to spend completely on my own .....I would seriously go mental! I need my own space to be sane.

Plus I would be running out the fire exit approximately every 28 days.

Reading the DS thread title "why is Crab boy scuttling around Sams bed" absolutely cracked me up!

twas the word scuttle...    i am still laughing at it now!

There is also another aspect to it.. a complete letting go of any responsibility whatsoever..


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