Yes that made a refreshing change from the outright denial of responsibility and failure from most labour politicians and supporters.

Indeed: Cameron & Clegg; image over substance once more.

What? All of 'em?

I do deny that I am responsible...it were nowt to do wi me

Surely the point being that as we regroup we may be able to take on board a more traditional Labour philosophy. Some might say that the UK public will never vote for that again, so be it. I can live with not being in power again. As Mr Benn suggested, one puts one's ideas before the voters and they either like it or not.
ANTHING RATHER  THAN ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO DO THATCHERISM BETTER THAN THE TORIES  :snort:

Zackly! 

I was ranting about this a bit to me Mam earlier, I don't want some little smarm talking about centre politics I want someone who'll take them back to the left!

Is Balls up, yet?

Isn't balls-up all the time?

Ed for me. He has always come across as wanting and being honest. I know they seem to devide the brothers between Blairites and Brownites, but I don't think that David is such a strong adherent to Blair and Ed always seems to be his own person.

As a political euphemism... YES!

I really like Ed Balls too can't understand the animosity ...is it something to do with his union connections? Although he's my ptreferred choice I don't think he's very electable .....of the Milliband two .....................I think (at the moment, though I reserve the right to change my mind) I prefer Ed.

For some reason i am not keen on Ed Balls despite always voting Labour - David milliband for me at the mo. I know the mood of the country is soft left but I just think David can compete in the looks stakes with cameron and clegg - not a great reason I know but if you can't beat them join them at least in the short term

I just have a gut feeling about Ed Balls being a bit shifty and ruthless.
Just a feeling.
Although I disapprove a lot of him using a mobile phone whilst driving. Very naughty!

Maybe we've just got the government we deserve ...................C'mon!

sorry - does sound a bit light weight  -  I  would have liked Brown to be PM  tbh- liked him but unfortunately i think politics today hinges on a public school /education and looking good

oh and plotting it for five years ( Cameron) - like a good boarding school jape - read it in the  Times today - he planned to become PM within 5 years - just good fun when you have 4 million in the bank

I hadn't seen much of Ed Balls until I saw him a few weeks ago on the Andrew Marr Show.  He struck me as being really swivel eyed.  I know my opinion doesn't count for much in this context but you know when you come across someone and you feel as if, if you shake hands with them, you would have to count your fingers afterwards?  I suppose in the same way whenever I watch Peter Mandelson I always feel slightly grubby afterwards.

Well I think Ed Miliband looks cute..aww. I would rather see Alan Johnson as leader of the Labour Party.

and, my bad, I've been spelling Miliband as Milliband....shows how much attention I pay

One can sense it coming. Lots of stories in the media about what a great guy their Dad was, how right-on the family was, Karlo Marx used to read 'em bedtime stories, Rosa Luxemburg used to change their nappies. We just know that they are going to turn out more right-wing than Tony Blair.

Milliband sounds like a brand of contraception to me \/\/

Get a couple of Wilibands, squeeze Balls between them, and Burnham.

That's a combination contraceptive.

That proposal might need rubber stamped!

Ok, we all know personal appearance shouldn't matter a jot.... but we all also know it matters a lot ........so....

I can't take to Ed Balls cos he looks like a member of the BNP.

I've only ever seen Ed Miliband talk the other day when he announced he was running .....and he looked like a little kid trying to pretend he was cool and confident.

David Milband? ..........well, I'm with Hilary Clinton on this ....so he gets my vote.

*disclaimer* - My recent vote for Gordon Brown negates all shallowness of the above post.

I meant Ed Milliband.  I can't abide Ed Balls. He just wants the power, I don't trust him.

**Takes Cologne to one side and tells her the awful truth**

 ok, but I'm praying for some youthful ideology.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

I had to copy & paste that into Google translate...   but it makes less sense now than it did originally!

Nuffink ever changes, innit

hahaha!

That should be submitted to Google translate...   its translation was way too literal for me!

Sad but true.

stuff does change...  but change is slooooow.. so slow its hard to see the change has happened.

*sticks it in google translate*

   stick it just into google and I bet you it brings up a page full of hits about boiling frogs!

Oooh you took me right back to science class.

you boiled frogs in science?

It doesn't really ditty, IMHO, the parties are loyal to their ideologies and the voting public gets fed up after a few years and goes for the opposite, only to start moaning about it after a year (at most) and desperately wait for a general election, voting Lib/Dem to keep anybody out and getting nowhere. It's a hamster wheel.

We thought about it

We had to disect them. How gross is that?