Brisket, did you think this way when Dave was having a go at Mario. You were pretty peeved off if memory serves me correctly. Not having a go off you, but it there can't be concession for Mario, you're favourite and nobody else

Of course I was peeved off Fairfax - because Dave was having a go at a housemate I liked.
That's how it goes.
Support the ones you like; condemn the ones you don't.
Same rules all round.   

Does it matter though?  If Mario had picked John James or even Josie, it doesn't matter.  Jo will be going as she has said that she doesn't like John James.  I haven't checked the DS appreciation society but I would bet the tweenies are gunning for Jo this week.

It really doesn't matter anymore that Dave is the biggest hypocrite to walk the face of the earth, or that John James is a spoilt brat, or Mario has no integrity.  It's all down to the tweenie vote, because let's face it, they are the ones that vote.

But when a Save and Replace decision has to be made, and three people are already up in a house of dwindling numbers.....Mario was faced with breaking a promise.
If he'd refused, people would have accused him of wimping out and having no backbone, no doubt!

I have no qualms condemning those I support,blind support just isn't my thing tbh...IN RL I've no problem criticising those who are very important to me if they are wrong,why would a HM be different?.

Lee, you had posted before me and said what I wanted to.

Well by choosing Sam, breaking a promise and appeasing the smug lot, he proved he has no backbone. Hugely dissappointing.

It matters alot actually, theres no integrity at all in him, he made promises not to do things but later goes back on his word.   The guy is a liar.

Who do you think he should have chosen?

It's not blind support ~Lee~
I know Mario's faults.

I suppose I am regarding BB as a rather unreal light-entertainment game and not applying the rules of ordinary RL. I also perhaps find him to be the least nasty (in my opinion of course.)

I can't take Big Brother "promises" too seriously I'm afraid.
BB is full of ploys.

It is a game, but isnt it HOW you play the game that matters? There have been some very underhanded moves this series. Mario has been very low at times and needed, and expected, his friends to be around him. They offer him friendship and at the first opportunity he stabs them in the back, BUT, still expects them to be loyal to him? Not a very nice person in my book.

I can understand him not nomming JJ tbh but we've saw him stand up to JJ today so as Josie's never been up yet why not her,he's saying one thing doing another and emerging as a hypocrite and sneaky.

Sounds more like Dave to me!

And loyalty counts for nothing in these late stages of BB......well, unless you're Rachel Rice I suppose.

Quite frankly Katerina, any of them with the exception of Sam as he promised he wouldn't, didn't he say he wouldn't as he wanted to give a him, the newbie a chance.  Had he not said this, Sam would have been fair game too.  It's just the two facedness of it that gets me. IMO he really showed himself up for the snake in the grass I had long suspected he was.

Katerina...Dave too, he has the same mould

Exactly

......or simply using good tactics.      (After all this is Big Brother.)

Absolutely Videostar

BB where we are supposed to see the real person,warts and all....His warts are unpalatable imo.

I think if we were looking for housemates who have gone back on their word
we would find almost every  one of them in the list.

I think he was in a near-impossible situation.....he'd promised far too many people he wouldn't put them up, you just can't do that in this game, especially at this stage too.

He hasn't done himself any favours by trying to keep friendship bonds, because at the heart of Big Brother is the possibility that you will have to stab a 'friend' in the back.

good tactics or not, if it isnt in someone to be nasty they wont be, BB or not, IMO

Hey, I can understand and believe me, I am NOT at all supporting Mario. It was nasty and underhanded and everything else.  My point (and this is probably not the thread to state it, but it really angers me) is that nothing any of us can do will make a blind bit of difference.  The tweenies have decided who the winner is this year and it is John James.

I'm afraid I have to part with you there ~Lee~

I don't think we do see the real person - at least not since series 1.
We see people performing and portraying and doing all sorts to get a lot of money and perhaps some fame.
What is good, though, ~Lee~ , is that I still like you. 

That's probably why you and me would be useless in Big Brother  Skylark. 

Aww what a nice thing to say !  I am too honest for my own good sometimes, but at least you know where you are with me

That's more important imo Brisket,the Hm's will all be gone in a few weeks,we'll still be around here.

When did he make this promise, today?

Haven't been able to get any life feed!

You are most welcome DiD, sorry I was so long getting back to you but I was having a little real life to calm me down

hE'S ALWAYS MAKING PROMISES, OR MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT WHY HE PUTS UP WHO HE DOES AND THE REASONS FOR DOING SO AND THEN TOTALLY GOES BACK ON HIS PROMISES AND REASONS.


Sorry for the shouting, im not angry I just forgot to turn the caps button off. lol

So no-one can answer when he made this promise to Sam and what was said?

I am glad Sam is up - as I said last night, he needs to learn some humility.

He told Sam he would always give  newbies their first week free from noms, so that they'd get to enjoy another week at least.    This being Sam's first week for noms, he was shocked when Mario went against what he'd said, so he felt badly let down by him!

Sam was the only one who looked after Steve, who was worried about standing up in all that muck, i thought that was nice of him

And Mario needs to learn some loyalty.

Mario said last week in the S&R task that he wouldn't put a new HM up who only had a week in the house.


I could tell you about all the other promises he's made down the weeks that he went back on,  and the open lies he's told.

And integrity.

Absolutely - but doesn't detract from how nasty he has been.
I  am not saying I want him to go - Dave is the one I am hoping will go. I would like to see a different side to Sam - BUT he swaggered into that house like he owned it and perhaps was a little too cocksure of himself.