I have never said I dislike Ben. .I dislike a lot about him and the things he does but I think he's a cracking HM and he cracks me up as much as he makes my blood boil.. but I hate that when  he does bad   barely a thread is started about that..

I can see both sides of him. . good and bad.. I am not blinkered...  and I don't spend all day in every thread dissing any of them.. 

I LUT a lot of the time and then I join in the odd threads here and there.. and I don't get annoyed or stop posting or LUTting' if people write what I don;t want to hear if tis the facts that are being written ..

I don't blindly follow any HM. .I follow the show.. and if the house is in an uproar and emotions are flying they affect the watchers as well and some of that may come over in my  LUT or comments but  it's the show I support and tis the facts that  I LUT or  talk about when I join a thread..

 I watch the people from the beginning   and lsiten to them and learn about them as the show goes on...  and thru doing so I get a rounder picture of all the HM's. .I am a BB saddo that has no life

Hahahahahaha,you'd think they'd give us a badge or something.

I know. .it's been 10 years and all I have for it is sore fingers

oh i know he has good points to, but i'm not cataloguing them here, so many others do it so much better and frequently,lol

I hear what you say Olly and I know that many will like one HM and many will like another and I can see that you like to take a balanced view of the show as a whole.  Obviously I am a fan of Ben but I can certainly understand why many people would be extremely irritated by him.  He is most certainly not to everyone's taste but I find him very amusing and entertaining.  He has taken a load of flak in there and I haven't once seen him lose it. 

I believe he will probably not stay the distance, I think he will walk before the end but while he stays I think the house is a more interesting place with him in it.  The one thing about Ben is that he didn't apply for the show and in fact I have heard that the producers were still trying to persuade him to go in the night before.  I think that this BB would not have been the same if he had decided it wasn't for him.

And all I can say now is I am just going to lie down for a little while with cotton wool pads on my eyes

I am no fan of Ben's but I have always said I dont want him to leave and that I find him funny, I always say he is as bitchy and unpleasant as the other HMS that are getting targeted because it is true IMO..

Nice post squiggle.
I happily go along with that.

Ben was definitely having a bit of a bitch about Mario this afternoon, and I can't pretend he wasn't..... but in the grand scheme of  the scale of some of the bitching that has gone on in the last couple of days, I can live with it

he lost it with Jj on shabbygate night, squiggle he shouted  a lot. . 

thing is people make presumptions about me and how I watch the show and the  assumed  allegiances I have  with HM's or dislikes I have ...  which is a mile away from what I actually do as I explained on the previous page..  I comment on a situation that occurs and that includes  all that leads up to it, not   just that particular  moment in time.. 

there are obviously some HM's that tend to grate more and don't have that many good sides to even up their bad sides.. but if a good side surfaces and it amuses me I am happy to acknowledge that as well. .

am still waiting for Caoimhe's good side to show tho

I agree, I think Ben will go eventually of his own accord he has been paving the way over the past week in little asides he has said here and there . and it will be a great loss as would Nathan or Jj going because they too  have a good sense of humour  in amongst all their bad points ..   Dave and Josie make me laugh also...  .

I'd rather the negative HM's go first above the rest of them  .but it won',t happen

I so wanna know what his eye product are cos I could do the whole streets shopping with the bags under mine

I really liked Mario as 'the mole', but he has gone down hill steadily since then.

It's all subjective in the end.
Someone's most disliked, is someone else's favourite.
That's why our forum is so useful - and lovely.

I agree Brisket

My current least fav is Caoimhe. .not seeing a lot of support for her

but  yes the diversity is good so long as people don't take it too seriously. .

I dont think Keever has a good side she is cold and hard reminds me of Noireen .. wonder if they are related

God bless you but don't hold your breath waiting Olly.

I read somewhere that someone in the house commented on his ever changing accent....I noiced this a while ago....


I think though that all HMs bitch or are bitched about at some point cos there's bugger all else to chat about a lot of the time..coupled with the fact that they have little else in common apart from each other and their house experience....and I can't see any of them having a talk about quantum physics or anything vaguely intelligent any time soon.

I don't feel sorry for Mario at all.  He's snidey, whiney and a bit of a creep tbh.  He is definitely passive aggressive and all this having a constant pop at Ben over nothing - is getting rather tedious.

Just in my opinion, I think because Ben was targeted by Endermol to be in BB, he thinks he can please himself regarding the tasks.He didn't apply or so he told Shabby, Endermol called his agent, I don't think Ben seriously knows what BB is about and assumes (wrongly) that if he doesn't like something he wont do it. 
I didn't like it this afternoon when he asked Dave to stick up for him, he needs to be a part of the team or take the consequences of not doing the tasks.

He does bitch, and he thinks he's very knowledgeable on reading the other housemates, how wrong is he about Keeva and JJ   
Saying that, I go on and off him on a daily basis, but I prefer his bitching to the venom I have listened to over the last day or so. I still find him funny and hope he stays and doesn't walk (which I have my doubts about) for a while yet.

I agree brisket this is only a game show and we all have our favourites and opinions, but this forum will go on when BB is finished it is a lovely forum

Semantics it may be but I would say Ben was having a really good grumble about Mario whereas Mario has been saying some quite nasty things about Ben.  I suppose my definition is do you say it with a sneer in your voice or not.  Just my opinion.

Marguerita IMO it has nothing to do with Ben being targeted by Endemol.  You don't 'get' Ben so you won't see that that is Ben.  That is who he is, he won't be told what to do and I know that outrages some people but that is who he is and he has never pretended otherwise.  I think I prefer that to the fake team when we really know they are all in competition with each other.

Well said

I am not saying Mario hasn't been equally bitchy Squiggle....just that Ben was doing it too this afternoon.... But like I also said, it was pretty mild given what the likes of JJ, Keeva and Josie have been up too.....and it was generated by a six of one and half a dozen of the other situation. ... and I still support him, cos flaws and all he is way above most of the others in there....IMO 

Nice point. All the high-flown talk about teams and all the time we know they are competing. They are not deluding us, so they must be deluding themselves.
Or simply lying.

Both methinks!

I agree with Baz that a lot of the Mario & Ben downsides are 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
We mustn't forget they have upsides too.

Well said Squiggle.

Hey... I'm on your sides.. remember

Agree... and so does Caiomhe!





Il get back to you when I can think of some

i think you mean dame anne?

And I dont like being targeted by you squiggle I have said no such thing.. read back

A simple mistake Marguerita, my apologies.

Accepted

I remember Baz I did say it was my opinion, and as I said its probably just semantics but IMO there is a difference.

Part of BB is working for the whole house and part of it is in competition with each other.

Nor caring that others will be punished, is not some great principle.

I get the impression that if Ben was in a Sophie's Choice situation, he'd probably say, "Oh, take them both!"

Thanks jackson, I am afraid this seems to be par for the course for me since I lost my husband.  I shall be so glad when I have my brain back.  You would have laughed though at one instance of my 'losing my thinking head'.  I went in for petrol to a manned petrol station and drove to the wrong side of the pump for my filler cap.  The attendant said the filler cap is on the other side, so I said righto I will go around the other side, and you guessed it I drove around the other side and he said you've done it again!!

Ben's never watched BB