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Very interesting - there are shots of Freddie there at the end which we didn't see on LF.

If (and I admit it's a big if) this is shown on HLs "as-is", then I think the concerns over Freddie being stiched-up will prove unfounded. Freddie explains very clearly exactly why he laughed.

Mind you, he could never explain it clearly enough for Charlie - after all, he was using words of more than one sylable... Roll Eyes
Eugene's Lair
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Originally posted by darloboy07:
This will make some people think Marcus is a bully for making a girl cry Roll Eyes, Bea with her crocodile tears trying to make him look bad.

I don't think anyone who watches it carefully would think that though. Going by the site comments, a few are claiming that Bea didn't get "upset" as quickly as the clip suggests, but the truth is she really did. As my mum would say, she can turn it on and off like a tap... Crying
Eugene's Lair
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Originally posted by Fan of the girls:
the only time i get upset is when i talk to marcus freddie and siavash.


what about david when she claimed he was a bully as well.


Oh yes she reduced poor old Dave to tears with her oft repeated Mantra of "You are a bully",etc!

I feckin' hate her I'd hit her whiny screwed up face with a mackeral,hell I'd need a shoal of them. Angry
kattymieoww
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
Yes, but she still has a point! Nod

I'm sorry, but Marcus the Life Coach is just not working for me! Crazy


Bliz,

Bea lost any point in her argument the minute she started her usual spiteful, degrading references to Freddie. Marcus was spot on, and you know how much it must take for me to agree with Marcus, I am not one of his fans.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Bliz,

Bea lost any point in her argument the minute she started her usual spiteful, degrading references to Freddie. Marcus was spot on, and you know how much it must take for me to agree with Marcus, I am not one of his fans.


Oh, I agree that she was being spiteful about Freddie again, but Marcus, Siavash and Freddie do all think that they are very wise and that they are qualified to analyse everyone in the house.

Crazy
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Bliz,

Bea lost any point in her argument the minute she started her usual spiteful, degrading references to Freddie. Marcus was spot on, and you know how much it must take for me to agree with Marcus, I am not one of his fans.


Oh, I agree that she was being spiteful about Freddie again, but Marcus, Siavash and Freddie do all think that they are very wise and that they are qualified to analyse everyone in the house.

Crazy


As do Lisa, David, Bea.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:

As do Lisa, David, Bea.


Maybe, but do they sit people down and try to talk them through their issues? Laugh

I just think anyone would be a little put out by a thirty five year old Wolverine look-a-like, who has control issues, and behaves like an aggressive 14 year old, telling you where you are going wrong with your life! Crazy
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Bliz,

Bea lost any point in her argument the minute she started her usual spiteful, degrading references to Freddie. Marcus was spot on, and you know how much it must take for me to agree with Marcus, I am not one of his fans.


Oh, I agree that she was being spiteful about Freddie again, but Marcus, Siavash and Freddie do all think that they are very wise and that they are qualified to analyse everyone in the house.

Crazy


Surely they're more qualified to analyse people in the house than you or me, seeing that they actually live with them 24/7.

Do you condemn yourself for analysing and passing judgement on Marcus, given that you only see an edit of what goes on in there?
CT
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
quote:
Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Bliz,

Bea lost any point in her argument the minute she started her usual spiteful, degrading references to Freddie. Marcus was spot on, and you know how much it must take for me to agree with Marcus, I am not one of his fans.


Oh, I agree that she was being spiteful about Freddie again, but Marcus, Siavash and Freddie do all think that they are very wise and that they are qualified to analyse everyone in the house.

Crazy


As do Lisa, David, Bea.


And Charlie.
squiggle
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Originally posted by Carlos the Hackle:
Surely they're more qualified to analyse people in the house than you or me, seeing that they actually live with them 24/7.

Do you condemn yourself for analysing and passing judgement on Marcus, given that you only see an edit of what goes on in there?


But that's my job, as a viewer! Eeker

I honestly wouldn't mind, if they were any good at it, but they are all pretty crap. Laugh
Blizz'ard
OK i was at work and watched the whole thing - in a nutshell ....

BEA: "I don't giv a sh*t - i say wot i see - Freddie is a tw*t - thats why i was brought on this programme cos i tell it like it is"
"I am a positive person"

MARCUS: "All i hear is you moaning, about Freddie, your Dad, Kenny, David - that's not positive"
"You can't talk like that its nasty"

BEA: "Keep away from me - keep your opinions to your self - you really upset me"

Ermm . . . so YOU can say it like it is, yeah but others have to shut up?
You call Freddie a tw*t but its YOU that's upset?

BEA YOUR REALLY NEED TO GROW UP
Saint
Right...

The talk about taking Freddie's stash.. not cool.. I agree with Marcus *has a little lie down*

Yep.. Bea called Freddie.. tbh I'm not surprised.. it's a thin line between love and hate. Do I hate her for it.. no.. at least she's being honest and it is really nothing Freddie doesn't know already.. she has been pretty up front with her criticisms and to his face also. I'd say though that it was ill advised because if she wants to project 'positivity' that is probably the wrong way to go about it.

Marcus.. well.. she has a point. I'd just wish she'd make it without the quivering voice etc. I don't think Marcus has any room to give PR advice or advice on how best to treat people with respect.. and she is right to pull him up on his '4 million people' comment.

Freddie's laugh.. was at Bea's comment to Marcus that 'if you can't take it don't give it out'. He was laughing at her.. not Marcus as the recipient. A bit of schadenfreude from him.. a bit of mockery. So the disdain is mutual.. and imo, if one is to be vilified for this little war of attrition.. then they both should be.
tupps

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