That's exactly how I see him. In fact I couldn't have put it better myself!
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I disagree, Marcus points regarding Siavash always come from an angle of jealousy and complete hypocrasy.
I agree with him too.....
What did he say?
What did he say?
Marcus being two-faced then
Acting all nice to his face...
Acting all nice to his face...
I like Siavash but I think Marcus has him sussed there.
I missed that bit. 
What was it?
What was it?quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Marcus being two-faced then
Yep.
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
Most of all Marcus has severe "Hair envy"
They all do it, Sophie pretends to like Marcus to his face.quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Marcus being two-faced then
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I disagree, Marcus points regarding Siavash always come from an angle of jealousy and complete hypocrasy.
I think you are right in saying he is jealous of Siavash...probably. But, I don't think Marcus is wrong when he says Siavash would be at the top of the hill before the flood comes.
Siavash always does things and then moves away from the situation he's caused leaving others to take the rap.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:They all do it, Sophie pretends to like Marcus to his face.quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Marcus being two-faced then
And? That just makes Sophie two-faced aswell... she has been from the start.
How is it two faced to try and get on with people? Its like at work....you cant like everyone but to act like you hate them is very childish and imature. You just get on as best you can.
quote:Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I disagree, Marcus points regarding Siavash always come from an angle of jealousy and complete hypocrasy.
I think you are right in saying he is jealous of Siavash...probably. But, I don't think Marcus is wrong when he says Siavash would be at the top of the hill before the flood comes.
Siavash always does things and then moves away from the situation he's caused leaving others to take the rap.
Obviously as a huge Siavash fan, I'm not going to agree here, and even if I wasn't that into Siavash, I'd still disagree simply because Siavash is completey oblivious to Marcus's true feelings towards him, Marcus has these feelings why not tell Siavash straight?
Why chat to him have a laugh, and support the things Siavash does?
At no time I can remember, has Siavash ever slated Marcus in or outside the diary room, he likes Marcus and in a kind of misguided way he looks up to Marcus. When Sophie went on the rampage about Marcus having fags under his bed, Siavash was the only one who stuck up for Marcus saying he thought Marcus's intentions were well meant..Proving here Siavash does not jump on the bandwagon.
Would Marcus have done the same for Siavash? i doubt it.
quote:Originally posted by MoFo:
How is it two faced to try and get on with people? Its like at work....you cant like everyone but to act like you hate them is very childish and imature. You just get on as best you can.
I dislike people at college, but I don't go around bitching about them to anyone who will listen. Marcus has had this boring grudge for weeks now... crucify Siavash in the DR and to HMs
quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:quote:Originally posted by MoFo:
How is it two faced to try and get on with people? Its like at work....you cant like everyone but to act like you hate them is very childish and imature. You just get on as best you can.
I dislike people at college, but I don't go around bitching about them to anyone who will listen. Marcus has had this boring grudge for weeks now... crucify Siavash in the DR and to HMs
yep he takes all chances he can get
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I disagree, Marcus points regarding Siavash always come from an angle of jealousy and complete hypocrasy.
I think you are right in saying he is jealous of Siavash...probably. But, I don't think Marcus is wrong when he says Siavash would be at the top of the hill before the flood comes.
Siavash always does things and then moves away from the situation he's caused leaving others to take the rap.
Why chat to him have a laugh, and support the things Siavash does?
I think it's because Marcus approves of Siavash's rebellious side, he likes the breaking of rules etc.
But, when it comes down to the after affects though that's where Siavash let's him down because rather than take responsiblity for his actions he fads into the background whereas Marcus would face it head on. That's what I think anyway.
I'm afraid we may have to agree to disagree on this one.
quote:Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:
I'm afraid we may have to agree to disagree on this one.
No doubt.
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
SPOT ON!!
People have short memories Jamie, Marcus thought Noirin really did like him even though she told him she didn't LOL... all this insight and observation coming from the most deluded man in the house!!
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I disagree, Marcus points regarding Siavash always come from an angle of jealousy and complete hypocrasy.
I think you are right in saying he is jealous of Siavash...probably. But, I don't think Marcus is wrong when he says Siavash would be at the top of the hill before the flood comes.
Siavash always does things and then moves away from the situation he's caused leaving others to take the rap.
Obviously as a huge Siavash fan, I'm not going to agree here, and even if I wasn't that into Siavash, I'd still disagree simply because Siavash is completey oblivious to Marcus's true feelings towards him, Marcus has these feelings why not tell Siavash straight?
Why chat to him have a laugh, and support the things Siavash does?
At no time I can remember, has Siavash ever slated Marcus in or outside the diary room, he likes Marcus and in a kind of misguided way he looks up to Marcus. When Sophie went on the rampage about Marcus having fags under his bed, Siavash was the only one who stuck up for Marcus saying he thought Marcus's intentions were well meant..Proving here Siavash does not jump on the bandwagon.
Would Marcus have done the same for Siavash? i doubt it.
Well said Senora, very articulate and very true!
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
I think you might be right. He sees his role as 'house maverick' usurped by Siavash now.
I think he might have shot himself in the trotter though.
i think Marcus is spot on about Siavash he would stab them all in the back if it won him the show i like him but he is very selfish all the same .
.quote:Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
i think Marcus is spot on about Siavash he would stab them all in the back if it won him the show i like him but he is very selfish all the same
Stab them all in the back like Marcus has done to Siavash?
Siavash kissed Marcus's imaginery girlfriend and stuff like that,that is the problem Marcus has with Siavash.
quote:Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
i think Marcus is spot on about Siavash he would stab them all in the back if it won him the show i like him but he is very selfish all the same
LOS I think Marcus would stab anyone in the back to win he's done it the past with Noirin, and continues to do it with Siavash.
Siavash is not a proven Backstabber, Marcus is...
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
i think Marcus is spot on about Siavash he would stab them all in the back if it won him the show i like him but he is very selfish all the same
LOS I think Marcus would stab anyone in the back to win he's done it the past with Noirin, and continues to do it with Siavash.
Siavash is not a proven Backstabber, Marcus is...
how did he stab Noirin in the back
also im still to see any bad things Marcus has done to Siavash apart from voice his opinion .quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
I think all this carry on with siavash is not going to do him any favours,the nomination stuff,he came back well from the noirin saga.
I do think marcus has a points about siavash i posted something similiar abouti,although i do think marcus has never got over the noirin/siavash stuff.
From that point on marcus fred and siavash didnt seem the same anymore.
Marcus does not bother with him anymore and siavash seems to bother more with others
I am gutted i thought those 3 were great together,and i do think siavash deserves place in final like marcus
But winning I do not know,i think he has lost support a bit like freddie did over all wee different things
I do think marcus has a points about siavash i posted something similiar abouti,although i do think marcus has never got over the noirin/siavash stuff.
From that point on marcus fred and siavash didnt seem the same anymore.
Marcus does not bother with him anymore and siavash seems to bother more with others
I am gutted i thought those 3 were great together,and i do think siavash deserves place in final like marcus
But winning I do not know,i think he has lost support a bit like freddie did over all wee different things
Marcus is a back stabbing bastard!
If it wasn't for Vash making him immune from nomination that time he would have been out weeks and weeks ago.
If it wasn't for Vash making him immune from nomination that time he would have been out weeks and weeks ago.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
Marcus is a back stabbing bastard!
If it wasn't for Vash making him immune from nomination that time he would have been out weeks and weeks ago.
I was flabbergasted when he 'done him over' in the DR. I've come to the conclusion that Marcus really is a fairly ruthless lone wolf (only on the sniff for females).
quote:Originally posted by jamieboy:
marcus hates that siavash isnt the normal h/m
he hates that siavash isnt led by anyone
and he hates that siavash is better person than him
and he probably hates the fact that Vash gets on with all the women in the house.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
Marcus is a back stabbing bastard!
If it wasn't for Vash making him immune from nomination that time he would have been out weeks and weeks ago.
Ooooh good point
I forgot all about that...
IMO, in 2nites show Marcus showed himself as wanting the prize as much as any of the rest of them.
They are ALL doing it - thing is, only bits of it get noticed because some are STRONG characters (as in Marcus/Vash/Lisa - maybe Rodders) - the weaker ones are doing their best, but the ones I mentioned up above HAVE the game sorted - they KNOW who their competition is - and it certainly isnt Bea/Charlie/David/Sofie
They are ALL doing it - thing is, only bits of it get noticed because some are STRONG characters (as in Marcus/Vash/Lisa - maybe Rodders) - the weaker ones are doing their best, but the ones I mentioned up above HAVE the game sorted - they KNOW who their competition is - and it certainly isnt Bea/Charlie/David/Sofie
Marcus is mean to talk about Siavash like that in the Diary Room while maintaining the pretence of friendship to Siavash's face. Is winning really that important to Marcus, that he must put down the ones closest to him?
quote:Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:
Marcus is a back stabbing bastard!
If it wasn't for Vash making him immune from nomination that time he would have been out weeks and weeks ago.
Ooooh good point
Yep, seems like Marcus has forgotten too.
How he can say that Vash runs away from trouble (flood, whatever) is shite. By saving Marcus from being Nom'd he was riling Lisa's large group and risked being targeted by them for saving someone they disliked. The dick!
Marcus is spot on.
quote:Originally posted by BROXI:
Marcus is spot on.
Nah, he's talking out his arse.
quote:Originally posted by BROXI:
Marcus is spot on.
Think of all the ridiculous, stupid, infantile things which Marcus has done over the weeks, which Siavash could go into the Diary Room and moan about.
Don't worry though. Siavash genuinely considers Marcus a close friend. You'll see no such back stabbing from him.