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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

It is amazing that people can get the wrong end of the stick to this degree.

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i think siavash and noirin's love affair is convenient to them both.

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i think siavash and noirin's love affair is convenient to them both.

Shives is smitten. I don't think he has any other motive. Maybe I am being naive.

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

Not seen the audition footage yet.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:
Noirin: 'Very manipulative' Footage of Noirin is here.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

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Originally posted by Keely:
I remember Ais and her audition tape. It bore no resemblance to the person she became.

I expect the audition tapes of ALL the HM's to be exagerated in the attempt to get on BB.

Normal behaviour is considered boring, so they ALL behave in a way that gets them through.

I'd love to see what unseen footage they have on the other HM's. That would be very telling I'm sure.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

I agree.
Some people on the forums have called her a 'slapper'.I hate the word..and I couldnt give a monkeys if she was sleeping with everyone in the house.
I think she worse than that.I think shes cruel and manipulative.

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

It is amazing that people can get the wrong end of the stick to this degree.

Over the feeling of Shives, Marcus,Shive's g/f and even her ex, whom she claims to be in love with.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

It is amazing that people can get the wrong end of the stick to this degree.

Over the feeling of Shives, Marcus,Shive's g/f and even her ex, whom she claims to be in love with.

Right.

She is very considerate to Siavash's feelings. It is quite apparent that she does not "fancy" him yet she is still kissing him etc. She clearly likes him a lot but not enough to have a relationship with him. She gave in to his emotional, enthusiastic and loving advances, does that make her inconsiderate? No it doesn't. She is assailed by these advances and they are so enthusiastic she feels obliged to reciprocate because she is flattered and because she doesn't wish to hurt the feelings of the suitor.

As regards Marcus she has shown the patience of a saint. Again she likes him as a person, she considers his feelings to the degree that she has not been ruthless in rejecting him, as other women in the house would have done, and she has done everything in the house worrying about the effect on Marcus. She has been absolutely plain to him about her feelings when he persisted and her patience was exhausted, and after the Siavash incident she has tried repeatedly to show concern for him.

She can't be responsible for Marcus' emotional well being one hundred percent of the time! She can't help his addiction to her and him smothering her and chaperoning her and pretending they were a couple.

Why on earth do people think she should have to put up with living under Marcus' umbrella just because he fancies her? She has rights too.

She DID show concern about Siavash's girlfriend, it was only when he admitted to not having one that she accepted his advances. It is up to Siavash to be responsible for the issue of his gf and he has given so much misinformation about her status, the current explanation was that she was never his girlfriend until he announced it in the house to fend off any people who wanted a relationship with him in the house.

She has not been with her ex for 7 months, and she used her ex as a weapon to beat off Marcus and she even told him that.


You really don't have a clue as to what is going on or what judgements to draw.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:
Noirin: 'Very manipulative' Footage of Noirin is here.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

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The problem is that because she is nice and considers the feelings of others as a priority that she is not ruthless and hurtful

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

It is amazing that people can get the wrong end of the stick to this degree.

Over the feeling of Shives, Marcus,Shive's g/f and even her ex, whom she claims to be in love with.

Right.

She is very considerate to Siavash's feelings. It is quite apparent that she does not "fancy" him yet she is still kissing him etc. She clearly likes him a lot but not enough to have a relationship with him. She gave in to his emotional, enthusiastic and loving advances, does that make her inconsiderate? No it doesn't. She is assailed by these advances and they are so enthusiastic she feels obliged to reciprocate because she is flattered and because she doesn't wish to hurt the feelings of the suitor.

As regards Marcus she has shown the patience of a saint. Again she likes him as a person, she considers his feelings to the degree that she has not been ruthless in rejecting him, as other women in the house would have done, and she has done everything in the house worrying about the effect on Marcus. She has been absolutely plain to him about her feelings when he persisted and her patience was exhausted, and after the Siavash incident she has tried repeatedly to show concern for him.

She can't be responsible for Marcus' emotional well being one hundred percent of the time! She can't help his addiction to her and him smothering her and chaperoning her and pretending they were a couple.

Why on earth do people think she should have to put up with living under Marcus' umbrella just because he fancies her? She has rights too.

She DID show concern about Siavash's girlfriend, it was only when he admitted to not having one that she accepted his advances. It is up to Siavash to be responsible for the issue of his gf and he has given so much misinformation about her status, the current explanation was that she was never his girlfriend until he announced it in the house to fend off any people who wanted a relationship with him in the house.

She has not been with her ex for 7 months, and she used her ex as a weapon to beat off Marcus and she even told him that.


You really don't have a clue as to what is going on or what judgements to draw.

It has been Noirin's consideration of the feelings of others and a reluctance to be selfish and ignore the feelings of others that gets her into trouble. I despair that people cannot perceive the most basic of social dynamics.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by greenandpink:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Noirin is like a little school girl who is just waking up to getting lots of attention form the boys and cannot get enough. Like Marcus she is arrogant too. Riding roughshod over everyone's feelings. Tom was right. She has issues.[QUOTE]

In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

It is amazing that people can get the wrong end of the stick to this degree.

Over the feeling of Shives, Marcus,Shive's g/f and even her ex, whom she claims to be in love with.

Right.

She is very considerate to Siavash's feelings. It is quite apparent that she does not "fancy" him yet she is still kissing him etc. She clearly likes him a lot but not enough to have a relationship with him. She gave in to his emotional, enthusiastic and loving advances, does that make her inconsiderate? No it doesn't. She is assailed by these advances and they are so enthusiastic she feels obliged to reciprocate because she is flattered and because she doesn't wish to hurt the feelings of the suitor.

As regards Marcus she has shown the patience of a saint. Again she likes him as a person, she considers his feelings to the degree that she has not been ruthless in rejecting him, as other women in the house would have done, and she has done everything in the house worrying about the effect on Marcus. She has been absolutely plain to him about her feelings when he persisted and her patience was exhausted, and after the Siavash incident she has tried repeatedly to show concern for him.

She can't be responsible for Marcus' emotional well being one hundred percent of the time! She can't help his addiction to her and him smothering her and chaperoning her and pretending they were a couple.

Why on earth do people think she should have to put up with living under Marcus' umbrella just because he fancies her? She has rights too.

She DID show concern about Siavash's girlfriend, it was only when he admitted to not having one that she accepted his advances. It is up to Siavash to be responsible for the issue of his gf and he has given so much misinformation about her status, the current explanation was that she was never his girlfriend until he announced it in the house to fend off any people who wanted a relationship with him in the house.

She has not been with her ex for 7 months, and she used her ex as a weapon to beat off Marcus and she even told him that.


You really don't have a clue as to what is going on or what judgements to draw.

It has been Noirin's consideration of the feelings of others and a reluctance to be selfish and ignore the feelings of others that gets her into trouble. I despair that people cannot perceives the most basic of social dynamics.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

Oh Jesus!

How many times has she told Marcus the situation?

The problem is that because she is nice and considers the feelings of others as a priority that she is not ruthless and hurtful.

A selfish, self-obsessed bitch would indeed have dispensed with Marcus more quickly, Noirin's problem is she doesn't wish to inflict pain on other people and she feels obliged to reciprocate loving advances. She is too sensitive to the wishes of others.

Yes I have seen the video, but it is quite evident that the incidents she is referring to are teenage school yard incidents she has recycled to make an impact to BB and increase her chances of success. Look at Sivash's video if you want to be really shocked.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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The problem is that because she is nice and considers the feelings of others as a priority that she is not ruthless and hurtful

But that's exactly what she is, Flossie .... ruthless and hurtful .... we've seen it in all it's glory ...... We shall obviously just have to agree to disagree on this one

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
As for showing concern for Siavashs gf, I have seen her so far come out with some gems such as "bring it on", "I don't give a fk", "let her come in here, I am with him now". Siavash is responsible for what happened with his gf but she blantently doesn't give two tosses about the fact someone somewhere may be upset about what they have done. Infact she is laughing about it.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:
Noirin: 'Very manipulative' Footage of Noirin is here.

I wouldn't take that VT as evidence of anything.
You have to be OTT to get on the show. It's been like that for quite a few years.

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
I believe that Siavash has given her at least two opportunities to get out of this. She is claiming she doesn't want a relationship and he is telling her he does. He has told her its over because he doesn't just want a bit of fun yet she tells him she still wants his hugs and kisses, if she didn't fancy him then she should have just backed off, not continued leading him on.

With regards to Marcus she did tell him that wanted to be friends but then friends don't treat each other like that. She knew it would hurt him but went right along and got off with Siavash anyway. Both Siavash and Noirin could have been much more considerate to their "friend" here but as Noirin said last night, she had no one else so strung Marcus along, now she has someone else she can drop him like a hot potato.

She could have helped ease the situation with Marcus instead of fanning the flames, whipping her bra of so he could paint her back, sitting on his knee when they were bladdered, she was leading him on but once they got so far, knocking him back down again. See the controlling aspect and the idea that she likes men falling in love with her.

As for showing concern for Siavashs gf, I have seen her so far come out with some gems such as "bring it on", "I don't give a fk", "let her come in here, I am with him now". Siavash is responsible for what happened with his gf but she blantently doesn't give two tosses about the fact someone somewhere may be upset about what they have done. Infact she is laughing about it.

IMO its been Noirins reluctance to release control of the men that have fell in love with her. She has kept them all just within reach of her until they are drive themselves crazy or until she finds something better that comes along. Least we forget she was all ready to drop Siavash for Tom but when he left she quickly backtracked. If she hadn't she would have been pretty much alone in that house.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

Oh Jesus!

How many times has she told Marcus the situation?

The problem is that because she is nice and considers the feelings of others as a priority that she is not ruthless and hurtful.

A selfish, self-obsessed bitch would indeed have dispensed with Marcus more quickly, Noirin's problem is she doesn't wish to inflict pain on other people and she feels obliged to reciprocate loving advances. She is too sensitive to the wishes of others.

Yes I have seen the video, but it is quite evident that the incidents she is referring to are teenage school yard incidents she has recycled to make an impact to BB and increase her chances of success. Look at Sivash's video if you want to be really shocked.

She would have been a lot kinder to tell him to sod off weeks ago instead of letting it simmer on.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Poker Face:

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In what way has Noirin ran "roughshod" over everyone's feelings?

If anything it is her willingness to do almost anything to avoid hurting the feelings of others that gets her into trouble.

I see it more as: It's her way of manipulating people .

I used to think: why doesn't she just tell Marcus where to get off .... but she likes to keep them all hanging on a string for her own personal gains.

Did you not see that unseen audition footage of Noirin, someone posted it on here yesterday .... She summed herself up perfectly.

Noirin the narcissist

Oh Jesus!

How many times has she told Marcus the situation?

The problem is that because she is nice and considers the feelings of others as a priority that she is not ruthless and hurtful.

A selfish, self-obsessed bitch would indeed have dispensed with Marcus more quickly, Noirin's problem is she doesn't wish to inflict pain on other people and she feels obliged to reciprocate loving advances. She is too sensitive to the wishes of others.

Yes I have seen the video, but it is quite evident that the incidents she is referring to are teenage school yard incidents she has recycled to make an impact to BB and increase her chances of success. Look at Sivash's video if you want to be really shocked.

She would have been a lot kinder to tell him to sod off weeks ago instead of letting it simmer on.

Some people, like Noirin, are too sensitive to the feelings of others to tell them to sod off.

She is very sophisticated, subtle and nuanced in her social interactions, and telling people to sod off only happens when her patience has been eroded or she is severe distress.

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Originally posted by greenandpink:
Mazzy, agreeing with you all the way

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
I believe that Siavash has given her at least two opportunities to get out of this. She is claiming she doesn't want a relationship and he is telling her he does. He has told her its over because he doesn't just want a bit of fun yet she tells him she still wants his hugs and kisses, if she didn't fancy him then she should have just backed off, not continued leading him on.

With regards to Marcus she did tell him that wanted to be friends but then friends don't treat each other like that. She knew it would hurt him but went right along and got off with Siavash anyway. Both Siavash and Noirin could have been much more considerate to their "friend" here but as Noirin said last night, she had no one else so strung Marcus along, now she has someone else she can drop him like a hot potato.

She could have helped ease the situation with Marcus instead of fanning the flames, whipping her bra of so he could paint her back, sitting on his knee when they were bladdered, she was leading him on but once they got so far, knocking him back down again. See the controlling aspect and the idea that she likes men falling in love with her.

As for showing concern for Siavashs gf, I have seen her so far come out with some gems such as "bring it on", "I don't give a fk", "let her come in here, I am with him now". Siavash is responsible for what happened with his gf but she blantently doesn't give two tosses about the fact someone somewhere may be upset about what they have done. Infact she is laughing about it.

IMO its been Noirins reluctance to release control of the men that have fell in love with her. She has kept them all just within reach of her until they are drive themselves crazy or until she finds something better that comes along. Least we forget she was all ready to drop Siavash for Tom but when he left she quickly backtracked. If she hadn't she would have been pretty much alone in that house.

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Least we forget she was all ready to drop Siavash for Tom but when he left she quickly backtracked.