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FM
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Interesting story....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ml?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

This man is a burglar who was imprisoned, and challeged it under the human rights law, saying that because he was the sole carer of his children, there would be nobody to look after them; so they let him out!

 

From the article:

 

"MPs said it opened the way to thousands more convicts claiming a β€˜get out of jail card’ under the controversial Human Rights Act.  Article 8, 'the right to a family life,' has repeatedly been used by foreign criminals to avoid deportation from the UK. But this is believed to be the first time it has been used to let a prisoner walk free from jail."

 

Opinions and views folks?

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Veggieburger:

Well it feels like no one at times Sprout.

I would say (again knowing nowt of this case) that if you have kids that are dependent on you then don't do stuff which might result in you going to jail.

Simples innit?

Of course, but I spose they're not thinking like that when they commit the crime 

FM
Originally Posted by Miss S:

Well he clearly wasn't thinking of his children when he committed the crime was he?

Not trying to be contentious but ........maybe that's exactly what he was thinking about. For whatever reason he may not have had money for food, clothes, shelter etc and that's why he was breaking the law. Don't know the in and outs of it but TBH ...............it's rather simplistic and presumptious to say that he wasn't thinking of his children.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Miss S:

Well he clearly wasn't thinking of his children when he committed the crime was he?

Not trying to be contentious but ........maybe that's exactly what he was thinking about. For whatever reason he may not have had money for food, clothes, shelter etc and that's why he was breaking the law. Don't know the in and outs of it but TBH ...............it's rather simplistic and presumptious to say that he wasn't thinking of his children.

There are other ways of providing/gaining though, surely, Soozy  

FM
Originally Posted by sprout:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Miss S:

Well he clearly wasn't thinking of his children when he committed the crime was he?

Not trying to be contentious but ........maybe that's exactly what he was thinking about. For whatever reason he may not have had money for food, clothes, shelter etc and that's why he was breaking the law. Don't know the in and outs of it but TBH ...............it's rather simplistic and presumptious to say that he wasn't thinking of his children.

There are other ways of providing/gaining though, surely, Soozy  

Just what I was about to say Sproooooot.

FM
Originally Posted by sprout:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Miss S:

Well he clearly wasn't thinking of his children when he committed the crime was he?

Not trying to be contentious but ........maybe that's exactly what he was thinking about. For whatever reason he may not have had money for food, clothes, shelter etc and that's why he was breaking the law. Don't know the in and outs of it but TBH ...............it's rather simplistic and presumptious to say that he wasn't thinking of his children.

There are other ways of providing/gaining though, surely, Soozy  

Of course there are - I'm supposing he thought he wouldn't get caught  Who knows how desperate he was? I'm not condoning breaking the law ............just saying it's wrong IMO to assume that he didn't care for his children.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by sprout:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Miss S:

Well he clearly wasn't thinking of his children when he committed the crime was he?

Not trying to be contentious but ........maybe that's exactly what he was thinking about. For whatever reason he may not have had money for food, clothes, shelter etc and that's why he was breaking the law. Don't know the in and outs of it but TBH ...............it's rather simplistic and presumptious to say that he wasn't thinking of his children.

There are other ways of providing/gaining though, surely, Soozy  

Of course there are - I'm supposing he thought he wouldn't get caught  Who knows how desperate he was? I'm not condoning breaking the law ............just saying it's wrong IMO to assume that he didn't care for his children.

I'm not saying he didn't care for his children.......but why not do what most of us do and obey the law? Same goes for the other toe rags out there 

FM
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

A good idea, have 5 kids, realise they cost money, steal from other peoples houses , and ask to be let off because you have to look after them   Next time i am skint, i think i will just help myself from Tescos, and explain i have kids to feed, i am sure they will let me off

Obviously worth a try, isn't it?       

FM
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

A good idea, have 5 kids, realise they cost money, steal from other peoples houses , and ask to be let off because you have to look after them   Next time i am skint, i think i will just help myself from Tescos, and explain i have kids to feed, i am sure they will let me off

He'd stolen some chocolate and the police over reacted. I feel in this case it might be fair to take the children into concideration. He's not thought of as a criminal, but rather an opportunist. If he really looks after his 5 children without a mother in the house, I say, all the elbow to him and, maybe, this verdict has made him think that help is available and he doesn't have to turn to petty crime.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

A good idea, have 5 kids, realise they cost money, steal from other peoples houses , and ask to be let off because you have to look after them   Next time i am skint, i think i will just help myself from Tescos, and explain i have kids to feed, i am sure they will let me off

He'd stolen some chocolate and the police over reacted. I feel in this case it might be fair to take the children into concideration. He's not thought of as a criminal, but rather an opportunist. If he really looks after his 5 children without a mother in the house, I say, all the elbow to him and, maybe, this verdict has made him think that help is available and he doesn't have to turn to petty crime.

It's still wrong though Col, and we, the public, pay for it in the end 

FM
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

A good idea, have 5 kids, realise they cost money, steal from other peoples houses , and ask to be let off because you have to look after them   Next time i am skint, i think i will just help myself from Tescos, and explain i have kids to feed, i am sure they will let me off

He'd stolen some chocolate and the police over reacted. I feel in this case it might be fair to take the children into concideration. He's not thought of as a criminal, but rather an opportunist. If he really looks after his 5 children without a mother in the house, I say, all the elbow to him and, maybe, this verdict has made him think that help is available and he doesn't have to turn to petty crime.

He is a burglar and convicted with dangerous driving. Its all good looking after 5 kids, whether a mother or father, alone. But you dont have to rob other folks houses....x

FM
Originally Posted by Skylark24:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

A good idea, have 5 kids, realise they cost money, steal from other peoples houses , and ask to be let off because you have to look after them   Next time i am skint, i think i will just help myself from Tescos, and explain i have kids to feed, i am sure they will let me off

He'd stolen some chocolate and the police over reacted. I feel in this case it might be fair to take the children into concideration. He's not thought of as a criminal, but rather an opportunist. If he really looks after his 5 children without a mother in the house, I say, all the elbow to him and, maybe, this verdict has made him think that help is available and he doesn't have to turn to petty crime.

He is a burglar and convicted with dangerous driving. Its all good looking after 5 kids, whether a mother or father, alone. But you dont have to rob other folks houses....x

I probably don't know enough about it Skylark, but according to 5live news, he is a petty criminal. On this occasion he nicked some chocolate from a corner shop and went on the run in his car. Rather than run into the police car, he clipped it because they cornered him. I know he probably isn't the most desirable human being doing his best for the country, but the judge must have seen something to let him go home. He is tagged (as far as I understand )

cologne 1

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