, and with all the doors unlocked and everything
Fancy leaving yer 6 year old kid alone with mate back in apartment while you went out for a meal , and with all the doors unlocked and everything
, and with all the doors unlocked and everything
Was there a story about the McCanns drugging their children ?
If so was it admitted to ?, alleged ?, just rumour ?
If so was it admitted to ?, alleged ?, just rumour ?
I say as well that she long dead. Her parents IMO know where/when/how (sorry n all that). How long did it take them to start begging for money and getting that website up n running and their wristbands and poster campaign and ribbons etc etc. Any evidence against THEM seemed to fade away once fellow scot Brown got involved.
They have an awful lot to answer for - they seemed to have the 'perfect' shot of their daughter within 24 hours of her going missing (u no the one where she's dressed up as sno white or whatever...)
I'm not really implying too much I dont think - but I DO believe that they KNOW where she is and whether she's alive or not.
Its about time (from reading the papers last week) - that if they REALLY wanted things to be done - they pay their 'privates' to search those underground tunnels - only thing is... they might actually find her - nuff said!
They have an awful lot to answer for - they seemed to have the 'perfect' shot of their daughter within 24 hours of her going missing (u no the one where she's dressed up as sno white or whatever...)
I'm not really implying too much I dont think - but I DO believe that they KNOW where she is and whether she's alive or not.
Its about time (from reading the papers last week) - that if they REALLY wanted things to be done - they pay their 'privates' to search those underground tunnels - only thing is... they might actually find her - nuff said!
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Was there a story about the McCanns drugging their children ?
If so was it admitted to ?, alleged ?, just rumour ?
it was alleged - not sure admitted tho
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Was there a story about the McCanns drugging their children ?
If so was it admitted to ?, alleged ?, just rumour ?
Yes that story did do the rounds along with a load of other malicious rumours. They took hair samples from the twins and from Maddies hairbrush ........absoloutely no evidence was found to support it (hair analysis can trace back for months).
It's so odd that there are people on here who keep chucking around all the lewd rumours but obviously have never bothered following up the story. There was no evidence whatsoever to charge the Mc Canns but mud sticks obviously.
At the time this was all going on my heart went out to the mcanns.oh yes i know they were very wrong in leaving them but like i had said at the time n will say it again they have paid for it.At no time not even for a min did i think the mcanns had anything to do with madeline going missing
quote:Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
At the time this was all going on my heart went out to the mcanns.oh yes i know they were very wrong in leaving them but like i had said at the time n will say it again they have paid for it.At no time not even for a min did i think the mcanns had anything to do with madeline going missing
I 100% agree with you. GOd Love them, we've ALL made mistakes in the past and have lived to regret it, just imagine how they must feel on waking up every day of their life. I feel nothing but sorrow and pity for them.
Just watching C4 now about Maddie.
What is this programme hoping to achieve?.....it is achieving in me...looking into their eyes and asking questions that they will never answer.
quote:Originally posted by funkyjunky:
Hi all, trust me Maddy is still around somewhere, maybe when she got snatched she and kidnapper met other kidnappers on a submarine and are now way down deep in the ocean??
Is that supposed to be funny?
quote:Originally posted by Syd:
What is this programme hoping to achieve?.....it is achieving in me...looking into their eyes and asking questions that they will never answer.
Well, it is keeping it in the public eye and it is 2 years since Madeline went missing. I think I read somewhere, that this progamme is going to look at more clues and different avenues
If it helps in any way, then why not.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Syd:
What is this programme hoping to achieve?.....it is achieving in me...looking into their eyes and asking questions that they will never answer.
Well, it is keeping it in the public eye and it is 2 years since Madeline went missing. I think I read somewhere, that this progamme is going to look at more clues and different avenues
If it helps in any way, then why not.
I don't know, I object maybe to the beginning scenes of a loving homebody Mum at home and a Dad at work (in a caring life saving industry)...
I understand the intention to keep looking for a missing child.....
But I still have questions...
You all pretty much what I think of this case. How can KMcC say with certainty that she only double-checked because the door was such n such inches ajar etc etc. If there were supposedly several people checking in on those kids that night - how can she know EXACTLY that door wasnt how they left it????
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
quote:Originally posted by Syd:
I don't know, I object maybe to the beginning scenes of a loving homebody Mum at home and a Dad at work (in a caring life saving industry)...
I understand the intention to keep looking for a missing child.....
But I still have questions...
Yes,I understand what you are saying and to an extent I agree. Still so many questions...
quote:Originally posted by Syd:
I don't know, I object maybe to the beginning scenes of a loving homebody Mum at home and a Dad at work (in a caring life saving industry)...
I understand the intention to keep looking for a missing child.....
But I still have questions...
I will always have questions, Syd.
The main one being the question which must have been asked 20 million times before....how could they have left those babies alone in that apartment, without paying for an in-loco babysitting service?
Still, at least the "caring" McCanns got a seemingly inexhausitble fund set up for them, a Papal blessing and, of course, a spot on Oprah.
I wanna scream at the tv "well if you two selfish people didn't leave her and go out on the lash, then she would still be with you" 
I mean the Tanners even left their sick child to go out
I mean the Tanners even left their sick child to go out
I hope the search for Maddie goes on.....
But....
The Fairy Tales about the Boogy Man should be re-read to parents....3 children under 5 should never have been left alone.....
We now seem to be getting (maybe) tales of Boogy Men (In Hindsight) at every corner of the holiday centre.....
But....
The Fairy Tales about the Boogy Man should be re-read to parents....3 children under 5 should never have been left alone.....
We now seem to be getting (maybe) tales of Boogy Men (In Hindsight) at every corner of the holiday centre.....
well, we're in no doubt now that the whole group left their children at night to 'live it up'.
This whole thing stinks - its no wonder the PJ cant make anything stick when the whole lot of them keep changing their stories
This whole thing stinks - its no wonder the PJ cant make anything stick when the whole lot of them keep changing their stories
quote:Originally posted by Syd:
I hope the search for Maddie goes on.....
But....
The Fairy Tales about the Boogy Man should be re-read to parents....3 children under 5 should never have been left alone.....
We now seem to be getting (maybe) tales of Boogy Men (In Hindsight) at every corner of the holiday centre.....
even one that looked like Gerry McCann
I really REALLY dont get it. Centre for Exploited Children??? THEY were the ones who exploited their children!!!
Sorry to harp on - but as has been said before - if it was someone from a sink estate - interest would have wained within 6 months.
THEY are being treated pretty much like heroes for NEGLECTING their children and publicly admitting it (without actually saying it)
Sorry to harp on - but as has been said before - if it was someone from a sink estate - interest would have wained within 6 months.
THEY are being treated pretty much like heroes for NEGLECTING their children and publicly admitting it (without actually saying it)
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Sorry to harp on - but as has been said before - if it was someone from a sink estate - interest would have wained within 6 months.
THEY are being treated pretty much like heroes for NEGLECTING their children and publicly admitting it (without actually saying it)
I don't think interest would have wained, but I think the programme would have been shot from a completely different angle.....
quote:Originally posted by Syd:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Sorry to harp on - but as has been said before - if it was someone from a sink estate - interest would have wained within 6 months.
THEY are being treated pretty much like heroes for NEGLECTING their children and publicly admitting it (without actually saying it)
I don't interest would have wained, but I think the programme would have been shot from a completely different angle.....
u mean the words 'serious neglect/social services intervention/remaining children put 'at risk' register/incompetent parents'....
instead of... 'GMcC a Consultant Cariologist and KMcG a GP and their group of friends dining at a tapas bar 10ft/50ft/150ft away checked on their children every 15 mins/20 mins/half hour...(take ur pick)
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Syd:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Sorry to harp on - but as has been said before - if it was someone from a sink estate - interest would have wained within 6 months.
THEY are being treated pretty much like heroes for NEGLECTING their children and publicly admitting it (without actually saying it)
I don't interest would have wained, but I think the programme would have been shot from a completely different angle.....
u mean the words 'serious neglect/social services intervention/remaining children put 'at risk' register/incompetent parents'....
instead of... 'GMcC a Consultant Cariologist and KMcG a GP and their group of friends dining at a tapas bar 10ft/50ft/150ft away checked on their children every 15 mins/20 mins/half hour...(take ur pick)
My parents went on Warner holidays years ago .........my sister and I were left in a chalet with a baby listening service. it was the done thing .................there are literally thousands of parents out there who have done exactly thje same and lived through it. My heart really and truly bleeds for that family.
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
Well, at least that poor fella is no longer in the frame. You know, the one who the media, and therefore everyone else, decided did it, whatever it was, because he was in the 30s and lived alone with his mum and omg had a blonde kid who might have looked at bit like Madeleine and who had a Russian friend with a glass eye and and ...
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
What is it you think they know?
Why do people argue over that fact that a child has disapeared during a holiday with her parents.....quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
What is it you think they know?
I think they know either where she is OR what happened to her (its not illegal to think that is it???)
IMO - they are FAR too composed - and have been from day 1 - in the docu 2nite tho I must admit Gerry NEARLY - very NEARLY admitted they did wrong
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
Surely to God if they know more than they're letting on they would be thankful if it all died a death wouldn't they? Instead they press on looking for their child.
Why dont you give it a rest? .............I have my opinion and you have yours ..........the fact that they're still pressing on looking for her disproves your POV doesn't it?
You are very rude!
quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:
What is it you think they know?
In the immortal words of Donald Rumsfeld:
"[...] as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
That might be it.
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
Surely to God if they know more than they're letting on they would be thankful if it all died a death wouldn't they? Instead they press on looking for their child.
Why dont you give it a rest? .............I have my opinion and you have yours ..........the fact that they're still pressing on looking for her disproves your POV doesn't it?
You are very rude!
OK if u say so. Refresh my memory - did the whole group ever go a reconstruction around the time she went missing???? Why wait TWO YEARS and only Gerry and Ms Tanner turn up for it?
Yes, we have got differing opinions, and I would like to be left to be entitled to mine - I dont go chasing u around blasing ur opinion do I??
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
I think they know either where she is OR what happened to her (its not illegal to think that is it???)
IMO - they are FAR too composed - and have been from day 1 - in the docu 2nite tho I must admit Gerry NEARLY - very NEARLY admitted they did wrong
Not illegal but tantamount to saying they are involved in her disappearance. Just because people are composed doesn't mean they are guilty of a crime
quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
I think they know either where she is OR what happened to her (its not illegal to think that is it???)
IMO - they are FAR too composed - and have been from day 1 - in the docu 2nite tho I must admit Gerry NEARLY - very NEARLY admitted they did wrong
Not illegal but tantamount to saying they are involved in her disappearance. Just because people are composed doesn't mean they are guilty of a crime
but they ARE guilty of a crime - its called leaving 3 children under the age of FOUR unattended.... lets just throw in the unlocked apartment and popping off to the tapas bar...
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
Surely to God if they know more than they're letting on they would be thankful if it all died a death wouldn't they? Instead they press on looking for their child.
Why dont you give it a rest? .............I have my opinion and you have yours ..........the fact that they're still pressing on looking for her disproves your POV doesn't it?
You are very rude!
OK if u say so. Refresh my memory - did the whole group ever go a reconstruction around the time she went missing???? Why wait TWO YEARS and only Gerry and Ms Tanner turn up for it?
Yes, we have got differing opinions, and I would like to be left to be entitled to mine - I dont go chasing u around blasing ur opinion do I??
There really is no reasoning with someone like you. Ask yourself this ...................if Gerry and Kate had anything at all to do with Madelienes dissappearance why would they be digging it up two years later? Wouldn't they be glad that the dust had settled?
Seriously ...........how do you respond to that? I know if I'd commotted a crime I'd creep away and steer clear of any publicity .........wouldn't you?
They have been thoroughly investigated ............there was no case to answer and in the mean time valuable time was lost.
I know FACTS like that are wasted on peeps like you because you've already made your mind up.
it is bang out of order leaving children, on there own but like i said in the other thread im sure they kick themselves everyday for it
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
but they ARE guilty of a crime - its called leaving 3 children under the age of FOUR unattended.... lets just throw in the unlocked apartment and popping off to the tapas bar...
You know exactly what I meant as I was referring to the what you said about knowing more than they are letting on
quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
AND... actually - didnt she say in the docu so far something along the lines of... 'you think you would notice a child being carried on a cold night and not covered up....
well excuse me - I thought the child the wonderful Ms Tanner saw being carried away - was covered in a blanket - and all u could see was her pink jama bottoms????
Oh for goodnes sake!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have your suspicions on the Mccanns ..........quite why I'll never understand! Do you honestly think if they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance they'd still be pressing so hard ........staying in the media spotlight?
If they were in anyway involved they'd be laying low and thankful that it had all subsided.
Oh give it a rest - it IS possible for parents to harm their children. They HARMED their children by leaving them alone every night FFS. I am NOT saying ANYTHING specific - merely pointing out that they are extremely culpable in their actions AND actually I do believe that they know more than they're letting on. Dunno about YOU, but I would be struggling (even 2 years on) if I knew deep in my heart that my child would still be with me if I hadnt pissed off to the tapas bar with me mates
Surely to God if they know more than they're letting on they would be thankful if it all died a death wouldn't they? Instead they press on looking for their child.
Why dont you give it a rest? .............I have my opinion and you have yours ..........the fact that they're still pressing on looking for her disproves your POV doesn't it?
You are very rude!
OK if u say so. Refresh my memory - did the whole group ever go a reconstruction around the time she went missing???? Why wait TWO YEARS and only Gerry and Ms Tanner turn up for it?
Yes, we have got differing opinions, and I would like to be left to be entitled to mine - I dont go chasing u around blasing ur opinion do I??
There really is no reasoning with someone like you. Ask yourself this ...................if Gerry and Kate had anything at all to do with Madelienes dissappearance why would they be digging it up two years later? Wouldn't they be glad that the dust had settled?
Seriously ...........how do you respond to that? I know if I'd commotted a crime I'd creep away and steer clear of any publicity .........wouldn't you?
They have been thoroughly investigated ............there was no case to answer and in the mean time valuable time was lost.
I know FACTS like that are wasted on peeps like you because you've already made your mind up.
No the facts are NOT wasted on me - and if u do ur research u will find a lot of people think like me. Like I have said before - rightly or wrongly - they were begging for money within literally a nano-second... had video footage, wristbands/madeleine fund... if u are completely dumstruck like that after losing a precious little girl u dont think like that. And as I have said in previous threads about this case (as u well know - if u had just lost ur precious little first baby would u bother to moisturise and make sure ur jewellery matched?? Same goes for Gerry to remember to shave.... yes and we have had this out before. I know for a FACT that I wouldnt give a shit what I looked like if my darling baby girl was missing
I agree with you Barmy leaving three children under the age of four alone in an apartment every night whilst they went out with their friends is a crime in my opinion ,and I dont believe it is the done thing that people do on a family holidayquote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
I think they know either where she is OR what happened to her (its not illegal to think that is it???)
IMO - they are FAR too composed - and have been from day 1 - in the docu 2nite tho I must admit Gerry NEARLY - very NEARLY admitted they did wrong
Not illegal but tantamount to saying they are involved in her disappearance. Just because people are composed doesn't mean they are guilty of a crime
but they ARE guilty of a crime - its called leaving 3 children under the age of FOUR unattended.... lets just throw in the unlocked apartment and popping off to the tapas bar...
