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Originally posted by *BB*:

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

I said it makes interesting reading. Try reading it.

I did read it, but I don't understand where his authority would come from. He doesn't know anymore than we do and the last sentence is just emotive implication.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

I said it makes interesting reading. Try reading it.

I did read it, but I don't understand where his authority would come from. He doesn't know anymore than we do and the last sentence is just emotive implication.

You read it? Just now? He's been commenting on the story since she first went missing. It would take you a heck of a long time to read it.

Blimey, that blogger's a bit bitter isn't he?

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Blimey, that blogger's a bit bitter isn't he?

He certainly is!

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Originally posted by drum:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Did they not go out and leave their children every night though? Leaving them the once, perhaps could be described as a mistake, but not leaving them every night.

NEVER a mistake, you just dont leave babies on their own.. not at home or in a FOREIGN country. There was a FREE nanny service available, they refused. They are wholly to blame for that childs dissapearance.

It was not a nanny service, it was a listening service. Perhaps all the other parents at home and abroad should be charged with child neglect for using them, after all they only listen at the door to see if a baby/child is crying while their parents eat and drink themselves merry

Actually, the guy's a complete tosser. I've stopped reading his emotive nonsense.

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Originally posted by boltonfan2:

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Originally posted by drum:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Did they not go out and leave their children every night though? Leaving them the once, perhaps could be described as a mistake, but not leaving them every night.

NEVER a mistake, you just dont leave babies on their own.. not at home or in a FOREIGN country. There was a FREE nanny service available, they refused. They are wholly to blame for that childs dissapearance.

It was not a nanny service, it was a listening service. Perhaps all the other parents at home and abroad should be charged with child neglect for using them, after all they only listen at the door to see if a baby/child is crying while their parents eat and drink themselves merry

Indeed! "Baby crying in chalet 33!"
That was Butlin's catchphrase.

Apparently, Hitchen thinks Melton Mowbray is a "one horse town" and Rothley, on the outskirts of Leicester (population ~300K), is in "the sticks". Ergo, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
Indeed! "Baby crying in chalet 33!"
That was Butlin's catchphrase.

Ah, nostalgia. Our parents back then were monsters, like the McCanns, and we didn't even know it!

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
Indeed! "Baby crying in chalet 33!"
That was Butlin's catchphrase.

Ah, nostalgia. Our parents back then were monsters, like the McCanns, and we didn't even know it!

We are lucky to be here.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
Indeed! "Baby crying in chalet 33!"
That was Butlin's catchphrase.

Ah, nostalgia. Our parents back then were monsters, like the McCanns, and we didn't even know it!

We are lucky to be here.

I used to work in the kitchens at Pontins when I was a student. The customers back then are lucky to be still here!

We used to be left in huge prams outside shops, houses etc.

All they worried about was the cats!

Three things I don't understand -

1. When it has been suggested that Madeleine wandered out of the apartment and got lost, Kate insists that it can't have happened that way and that she was taken from the apartment. Kate wasn't there so how is she so confident?

2. Kate said a few days ago she believes Madelaine was taken by someone who had been stalking the family for days. Does this mean that the mysterious person was aware that the children would be alone at some point that evening because it was the couple's standard practice?

3. The toy rabbit that Kate carried everywhere with her from day one after the disappearance. If Madelaine had gone to bed cuddling it and it had been put on a shelf in the apartment, presumably by the abductor, why did she not insist it was examined by forensics for the tiniest trace of DNA or some other clue as to who had handled it? If that had been my kiddie, I'd have wanted no stone left unturned and not investigating something touched by the culprit could be a huge omission. Baffles me completely!

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
We used to be left in huge prams outside shops, houses etc.

All they worried about was the cats!

True.

I have a confession to make. Apparently, my mum once left my brother in his pram outside the local shops and got half-way home before she realised. She still put her head in her hands 20 years later about that. If I'd have known what I know about parental monsters now when she was still alive then I'd have had her up before the courts. Gah, to think I really loved that woman and thought she had a heart of gold.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I have a confession to make. Apparently, my mum once left my brother in his pram outside the local shops and got half-way home before she realised. She still put her head in her hands 20 years later about that. If I'd have known what I know about parental monsters now when she was still alive then I'd have had her up before the courts. Gah, to think I really loved that woman and thought she had a heart of gold.

Awwww Dan

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I have a confession to make. Apparently, my mum once left my brother in his pram outside the local shops and got half-way home before she realised. She still put her head in her hands 20 years later about that. If I'd have known what I know about parental monsters now when she was still alive then I'd have had her up before the courts. Gah, to think I really loved that woman and thought she had a heart of gold.

We nearly left my brother behind, when we were going on holiday.
He came running out of the house, doing his trousers up!

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
I still feel sorry for Kate and Gerry McCann. We none of us know how much they reproach themselves on a daily basis for the very bad judgment they made that fateful night.

Hiya Hyacinth

I feel sorry for them because their little girl is missing, but the fault lies with them and whoever took her. We cannot get away from the fact that if they had not gone out that night and left their 3 little children on their own, Madeline would not have been taken. That is something they have to live with for the rest of their lives. Acknowledging what they did in the beginning, may have changed alot of people's perception of them.

Very sad

Yes, indeed Lassie. Very sad.

I know what you mean about them leaving their three children but I guess they were lulled into a false sense of security knowing they were only a few hundred yards away and that the children were being checked periodically BUT, as you say, it was wrong to leave them unattended.

Children can be snatched from the safety of their own homes though - I'm thinking primarily of the little girl from up north who was taken from her bath whilst her mother had only left thw bathroom to answer the telephone.

She was found several hours later, in the snow, having been dumped on a street corner naked and sexually abused.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
We nearly left my brother behind, when we were going on holiday.
He came running out of the house, doing his trousers up!

Oh I say. He could have had one before he got up. Still, boys will be boys.

I've another story. Same parents. My dad left my mum at a roadside services in South Wales and got several miles away before we asked him: dad, why have we left mum back there? First time I heard my Dad swear, that was. My mum wasn't best pleased and it was a bit stony in the car all that day. They split up later that year and got divorced.

Oh hold on, it was the year after that they split up. Immediately after a holiday in Butlins in Ayrshire. Mind you, a holiday in Ayrshire, let alone Butlins, was enough to put a strain on any marriage.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Blimey, that blogger's a bit bitter isn't he?

He certainly is!

He appears to be servicing a grudge of some sort, very hateful.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I've another story. Same parents. My dad left my mum at a roadside services in South Wales and got several miles away before we asked him: dad, why have we left mum back there? First time I heard my Dad swear, that was. My mum wasn't best pleased and it was a bit stony in the car all that day. They split up later that year and got divorced.

Oh dear!

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
We used to be left in huge prams outside shops, houses etc.

All they worried about was the cats!

When my son was born my mother said "If the crying gets too much for you just leave him at the bottom of the garden in his pram..."

No wonder I'm a psychiatrist's field day.

The three other couples who were with the McCanns that night who also left their children must be feeling twinges of guilt ever so often that they had such a lucky escape.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Oh hold on, it was the year after that they split up. Immediately after a holiday in Butlins in Ayrshire. Mind you, a holiday in Ayrshire, let alone Butlins, was enough to put a strain on any marriage.

I fear I may be flamed/accused of flaming for giving my opinion on this but here goes...

How can I put this as delicately as possible ?, Am I the only one who has a feeling about the parents ?

I could be wrong and it's a terrible thing to think but it's a feeling I've had since day one.

Whatever the truth, God bless Madeline.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
I still feel sorry for Kate and Gerry McCann. We none of us know how much they reproach themselves on a daily basis for the very bad judgment they made that fateful night.

Hiya Hyacinth

I feel sorry for them because their little girl is missing, but the fault lies with them and whoever took her. We cannot get away from the fact that if they had not gone out that night and left their 3 little children on their own, Madeline would not have been taken. That is something they have to live with for the rest of their lives. Acknowledging what they did in the beginning, may have changed alot of people's perception of them.

Very sad

Yes, indeed Lassie. Very sad.

I know what you mean about them leaving their three children but I guess they were lulled into a false sense of security knowing they were only a few hundred yards away and that the children were being checked periodically BUT, as you say, it was wrong to leave them unattended.

Children can be snatched from the safety of their own homes though - I'm thinking primarily of the little girl from up north who was taken from her bath whilst her mother had only left thw bathroom to answer the telephone.

She was found several hours later, in the snow, having been dumped on a street corner naked and sexually abused.

I remember that Hyacinth...shocking, taken from her own home...makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach....

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
I fear I may be flamed/accused of flaming for giving my opinion on this but here goes...

How can I put this as delicately as possible ?, Am I the only one who has a feeling about the parents ?

I could be wrong and it's a terrible thing to think but it's a feeling I've had since day one.

Whatever the truth, God bless Madeline.

Its been examined too hasnt it?

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
I fear I may be flamed/accused of flaming for giving my opinion on this but here goes...

How can I put this as delicately as possible ?, Am I the only one who has a feeling about the parents ?

I could be wrong and it's a terrible thing to think but it's a feeling I've had since day one.

Whatever the truth, God bless Madeline.

You're not alone in feeling that.

I don't understand this suspicion about the McCanns. What could they possibly get out of killing their own daughter? Other than leaving their children for a dinner date, they haven't actually done anything wrong.

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Originally posted by cologne1:
I don't understand this suspicion about the McCanns. What could they possibly get out of killing their own daughter? Other than leaving their children for a dinner date, they haven't actually done anything wrong.

It was alleged that Madeleine died and they concealed her death and her body. It was also alleged that the three children had been drugged by their parents to make them sleep. I don't know if there's any truth in these allegations, but I just have a feeling about the whole thing and that feeling will not go away.

I do blame them for leaving three young children alone whilst they went out and this was not the first time they were left ,I find both of them very arrogant and they dont sit right with me.

A lot of FMs will know already what I feel about this case. In THIS country if such a thing happened - the parents would be IMMEDIATELY prime suspects and also facing charges of neglect. It has also been reported (and not denied) that the McCanns et al left their babies at night to be with their friends - which makes a planned abduction possible....


I will not go back on what I have said over time - I do believe that the parents were involved somehow/someway. I believe that they know exactly where she is and what happened to her. Despicable people they are

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
I do blame them for leaving three young children alone whilst they went out and this was not the first time they were left ,I find both of them very arrogant and they dont sit right with me.

well said Marg!!!! Thats what gets me about them - the arrogance and not an ounce of apology or admittance that they did wrong. If they turned up on camera bawling their eyes out for the mistake they made, I could have some sympathy - but NO - they show up on camera begging for money to look for the child they couldnt be arsed to look after properly. They can consider themselves lucky to still have the twins - like I said above - in THIS country it would be a different story altogether


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just to confirm me n BB are not the same FM!!!! Speaks exactly as I feel tho I got completely surrounded by a gang of do-gooders when I put my thoughts forward first time round

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
just to confirm me n BB are not the same FM!!!! Speaks exactly as I feel tho I got completely surrounded by a gang of do-gooders when I put my thoughts forward first time round

I got squashed by lots of outraged first time around.

Hi barmy

I wonder if someone can confirm or deny some stories I remember reading or hearing about at the time ? I cannot remember the sources so I'm no longer sure how much (if any) truth there are to them.

1. Is it true that the McCanns first action was to contact someone in PR rather than the police ?

2. Is it true sniffer dogs reacted strongly at the boot of the McCanns car ? and...

3. Was blood found in there ?

Apologises in advance if these stories are without merit.

Sorry but no matter how you may be relaxed and in a holiday mood etc.There is not a snowballs chance in hell that I would leave three children under the age of four on their own.

Okay maybe they did do it on other ocassions and thought their kids were safe..etc.

Still in the end ,they were negligent,poor baby Maddy.I feel she is long gone.

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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
I wonder if someone can confirm or deny some stories I remember reading or hearing about at the time ? I cannot remember the sources so I'm no longer sure how much (if any) truth there are to them.

1. Is it true that the McCanns first action was to contact someone in PR rather than the police ?

2. Is it true sniffer dogs reacted strongly at the boot of the McCanns car ? and...

3. Was blood found in there ?

Apologises in advance if these stories are without merit.

I think 2 and 3 are right but not sure about 1st part of the question.