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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
But they did n God help them they have paid for it,my heart goes out to them

Yes. And they will pay for the rest of their lives. I feel very sorry for them and I also dread to think what will happen when their twins are of an age to judge them. I hope they wont.

I didnt think of that. I know they did wrong n i can also remember fm on our old site saying awful things about them but i didnt cos they have paid for it a million times

i agree, they must pay for it everyday, i just can't get my head around why they thought it was ok to leave them

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
But they did n God help them they have paid for it,my heart goes out to them

Yes. And they will pay for the rest of their lives. I feel very sorry for them and I also dread to think what will happen when their twins are of an age to judge them. I hope they wont.

I didnt think of that. I know they did wrong n i can also remember fm on our old site saying awful things about them but i didnt cos they have paid for it a million times

i agree, they must pay for it everyday, i just can't get my head around why they thought it was ok to leave them

Dont know aimee,you r a mum n im a mum of 3 n nan of 6(soon 7) n i would never leave them on there own but they did n God r the poor sods paying for it,my heart goes out to them

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by Aimee:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by ilovewillyoung:
But they did n God help them they have paid for it,my heart goes out to them

Yes. And they will pay for the rest of their lives. I feel very sorry for them and I also dread to think what will happen when their twins are of an age to judge them. I hope they wont.

I didnt think of that. I know they did wrong n i can also remember fm on our old site saying awful things about them but i didnt cos they have paid for it a million times

i agree, they must pay for it everyday, i just can't get my head around why they thought it was ok to leave them

Dont know aimee,you r a mum n im a mum of 3 n nan of 6(soon 7) n i would never leave them on there own but they did n God r the poor sods paying for it,my heart goes out to them

imo the poor girl died not long after she disappeared, she was too much trouble to keep with the media all around at the time, i do hope for gerry and kates sake they do find out what happened to her and they will have to live with that

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

Absolutely agree.

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

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Originally posted by StGeorgina:
Picture this.... A single Mother goes on holiday with three babies and leaves them alone to go for a drink/meal.

One of the children mysteriously disappears.

The press would have crucified this woman, as would the GBP and others around the world. I would imagine criminal charges would be brought, and social services heavily involved with the other children to ensure their safety.

A heart surgeon and a GP do it, and we have quite the opposite story.

Their status should not have been a 'get out clause' for their GROSS negligence and appalling behaviour - this is what has angered me for the last two years.

I do hope Maddie is found alive and well one day, but I don't believe for a moment that she has wonderful, doting parents. Sorry, but they did a terrible thing and this isn't something to sweep under the carpet because they have status in the world.

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Originally posted by *Punky*:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

Absolutely agree.

I agree too

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Originally posted by Windswept:

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Originally posted by *Punky*:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

Absolutely agree.

I agree too

I agree drum.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Windswept:

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Originally posted by *Punky*:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by drum:
I'm heart sorry for that wee girl and what she may have went through (I believe she's dead). I have some sympathy for the McCanns, but not a lot. They CHOSE to leave those babies, on their own, in a foreign country. There was a Nanny service in place.. they CHOSE not to use it.

Far too many grey areas in this case still. The McCanns are responsible for Madeleine going missing.

Absolutely agree.

I agree too

I agree drum.

Also agree.
They were arrogant in their belief it was OK to leave the children.Its never OK to lave small children.As for their friends who left a child who had been vomiting???Words fail me.

Of course,the loss of a child must be devastating,and to live with the guilt you were responsible for your childs death, even indirectly,must be unbearable.But I also agree with St Georgina.Shaz from chav towers would have been hung ,dranw and quatered for leaving her kids to nip to the shop for her fags(scuse the stereotype..its just to illustrate).She would probably have had her remaining children removed or put on the at risk register.Yet she could have the defence of being ignorant to the risks.The professional classes aould never have that excuse and that makes me angry with them.

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Originally posted by tupps:
I have sympathy. To lose a child is awful. However, I have no empathy. I am unable to understand why or how any parent would leave their children alone in an apartment, in a foreign country whilst they go out to dinner with their friends. To that end I am unable to buy into their grief.

I agree with the comments regarding double standards. Had that resort been Magaluf and the parents been two people from a sink estate, there would probably have been outcry.

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Originally posted by Windswept:
Im sure theyre sick with sorrow that on that night it didnt work for them but how many times had they done this before?

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
Oh I don't know.
Take the Baby P case (please)
That's a scratter family sans pareil and it has been everyone else's fault completely.
The Police, social workers, medical profession, you name it.

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
Oh I don't know.
Take the Baby P case (please)
That's a scratter family sans pareil and it has been everyone else's fault completely.
The Police, social workers, medical profession, you name it.

Slightly different. Not really a true comparison. Maybe a better one would have been that case where some Mother, on an estate in the North I believe, tootled off to the Costa del Sangria leaving her kids at home to fend for themselves. I remember middle England Daily Mail readers and their ilk being apoplectic about that.

And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them were convicted of murder.

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Originally posted by tupps:
*shudder* don't mention that name GJ..

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them were convicted of murder.

The Mother's boyfriend was found guilty of the charge of causing or allowing the death of a child or vulnerable person on Friday. He was also convicted of the rape of a two year old girl.

So yeah, I do know that.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them was convicted of murder.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by tupps:
*shudder* don't mention that name GJ..

I was also on the wrong end a few weeks ago.

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*Begins to think that 2besomeone and his sinister sideboard pal may have had a point after all*

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Originally posted by jujubedoo:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them was convicted of murder.

They can flower up the legal name for it but in my eyes that child was killed by someone who should have been protecting him, will always be murder in my opinion

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by jujubedoo:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them was convicted of murder.

They can flower up the legal name for it but in my eyes that child was killed by someone who should have been protecting him, will always be murder in my opinion

Oh, I don't really doubt the kid was murdered but one can't say that the bloke murdered the kid. It could have been the mother. The charge was chosen, I imagine, because they couldn't prove beyond doubt which of them did it. These things matter.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them were convicted of murder.

The Mother's boyfriend was found guilty of the charge of causing or allowing the death of a child or vulnerable person on Friday. He was also convicted of the rape of a two year old girl.

So yeah, I do know that.

Exactly, not murder.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by Windswept:
Im sure theyre sick with sorrow that on that night it didnt work for them but how many times had they done this before?

None possibly. They had a nanny in the UK so maybe the day-to-day,ins-and-outs of looking after kids was quite new to them. Perhaps they thought that it was acceptable with the apartment being so close and it being a complex of sorts. Lots of people do, probably even now, and they certainly did when I was a kid.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by tupps:
And while I agree with you on the neglect of the proper authorities, to say it was everyone's fault completely is, imho, to detract from the culpability of the 'gentleman' who in fact tortured and murdered that little boy.

Actually, you don't know that. Neither of them was convicted of murder.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
I believe both the mother and stepfather are yet to be sentenced concerning Baby P. Aren't they both still in custody and awaiting sentence later this month?