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Anyone familiar with this disgusting episode ?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.c...A-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

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I was seated between David and Gerry who were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but id did appear they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember David telling Gerry something like ?she? (referring to Madeleine) ?would she do this?.

Upon mentioning ?this?, David was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, and with the other hand encircled his breast in a gyrating fashion over his shirt. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was doing.

I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. I looked around (page 4) as is saying ?did someone else hear that, or was it just me?. Silence registered in all the conversations and after, we all began conversing again.

I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.
Comrade Ogilvy
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
It was some Portugese guy what done it.

Just substitute the words Puerto Rican for Portugese.


Nah Comrade Disappointed Shake Head..I've been one of the most open-minded ones on here, but that was out of order imo


Why ?, you feel it was disrespectful ?

Well Im sorry if you were offended but I have very little respect for neglegent parents especially ones that the evidence indicates disposed of their own child.
Comrade Ogilvy
I don't know what to think, the story is good on both sides.

If we're to believe it was an abduction, then why were only the mothers finger prints found on the apartment window, or so the portugese vid said!

If it was an accident in the apartment, how on earth did they either hide the body/ or temporarily get rid of it? None of them had time to do that.

There seems to be so called 'evidence' on both sides of the argument, and this is what's causing the 'headlocks' in here over it.

Personally I just don't know, I can't decide, but what I do know is that, that little girl aint ever gonna show up again! Frowner
Gel
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
It was some Portugese guy what done it.

Just substitute the words Puerto Rican for Portugese.


Nah Comrade Disappointed Shake Head..I've been one of the most open-minded ones on here, but that was out of order imo


Why ?, you feel it was disrespectful ? No, not as such, just a bit OTT COLOR]

Well Im sorry if you were offended but I have very little respect for neglegent parents [COLOR:RED]me neither
especially ones that the evidence indicates disposed of their own child.
You could be wrong you know????[/
FM
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
OOps, sorry about the coloury thingy going all wrong in that last post Blush


I'm wearing Ray Bans so all is well.

Hey ,yeah it's nice and sunny around these parts at the mo isn't it?..Ray Bans huh, v trendy, thought you were an old bugger LOL Laugh
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
OOps, sorry about the coloury thingy going all wrong in that last post Blush


I'm wearing Ray Bans so all is well.

Hey ,yeah it's nice and sunny around these parts at the mo isn't it?..Ray Bans huh, v trendy, thought you were an old bugger LOL Laugh


I am an old bugger.
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
OOps, sorry about the coloury thingy going all wrong in that last post Blush


I'm wearing Ray Bans so all is well.

Hey ,yeah it's nice and sunny around these parts at the mo isn't it?..Ray Bans huh, v trendy, thought you were an old bugger LOL Laugh


I am an old bugger.


A stylish old bugger Nod
angelicarwen
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Anyone familiar with this disgusting episode ?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.c...A-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

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I was seated between David and Gerry who were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but id did appear they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember David telling Gerry something like ?she? (referring to Madeleine) ?would she do this?.

Upon mentioning ?this?, David was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, and with the other hand encircled his breast in a gyrating fashion over his shirt. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was doing.

I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. I looked around (page 4) as is saying ?did someone else hear that, or was it just me?. Silence registered in all the conversations and after, we all began conversing again.

I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.


No body else thinks this places some question over The McCanns (and their circle of friends) morality ? to say the very least ?
Comrade Ogilvy
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.
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No body else thinks this places some question over The McCanns (and their circle of friends) morality ? to say the very least ?[/QUOTE]


He never spoke to anyone about this........ ??//??
TBH It doesn't make sense.
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.


No body else thinks this places some question over The McCanns (and their circle of friends) morality ? to say the very least ?[/QUOTE]


He never spoke to anyone about this........ ??//??
TBH It doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]

You'd need to follow the link perhaps, I didn't want to copy & paste the whole thing.
Comrade Ogilvy
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Anyone familiar with this disgusting episode ?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.c...A-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

quote:
I was seated between David and Gerry who were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but id did appear they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember David telling Gerry something like ?she? (referring to Madeleine) ?would she do this?.

Upon mentioning ?this?, David was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, and with the other hand encircled his breast in a gyrating fashion over his shirt. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was doing.

I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. I looked around (page 4) as is saying ?did someone else hear that, or was it just me?. Silence registered in all the conversations and after, we all began conversing again.

I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.


No body else thinks this places some question over The McCanns (and their circle of friends) morality ? to say the very least ?


In the statement by this woman's husband he says he does not believe the gesture/convo related to Madeleine
Yellow Rose
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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Anyone familiar with this disgusting episode ?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.c...A-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

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I was seated between David and Gerry who were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but id did appear they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember David telling Gerry something like ?she? (referring to Madeleine) ?would she do this?.

Upon mentioning ?this?, David was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, and with the other hand encircled his breast in a gyrating fashion over his shirt. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was doing.

I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions. I looked around (page 4) as is saying ?did someone else hear that, or was it just me?. Silence registered in all the conversations and after, we all began conversing again.

I never spoke to anyone about this, but always felt that it was very strange and not something that should be discussed or said.


No body else thinks this places some question over The McCanns (and their circle of friends) morality ? to say the very least ?


In the statement by this woman's husband he says he does not believe the gesture/convo related to Madeleine


Well he might not believe so, his wife is in little doubt though...

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When I heard Dave say that a second time, this reinforced what I already though in relation to his thoughts about little girls.
Comrade Ogilvy
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
As they are witness statements I'm pretty sure the British police would have checked out the man named in the statement pretty thoroughly


I'm not.


With such intense media focus on the case I'd trust them more than the Portuguese police.

I watched the vid link but it lost credibility when it alluded that the British Gov't were somehow part of a cover up. This isn't the Royal Family we're talking about.

Who is Pamalam? do the McCann's know she's using their name in her web address to promote anti McCann material
Yellow Rose
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it alluded that the British Gov't were somehow part of a cover up. This isn't the Royal Family we're talking about.


It's been a question on many people's mind as allegedly Gordon Brown was one of the first people Gerry McCann telephoned after Madeleine was reported missing. He continued to be actively involved with the case as allegedly he is a family friend.
B
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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it alluded that the British Gov't were somehow part of a cover up. This isn't the Royal Family we're talking about.


It's been a question on many people's mind as allegedly Gordon Brown was one of the first people Gerry McCann telephoned after Madeleine was reported missing. He continued to be actively involved with the case as allegedly he is a family friend.


Even if Gerry McCann is an "alleged" friend of Gordon Brown I doubt he and the British Gov't - as mentioned in the vid - would agree to be part of a cover up of an abducted child.

If as some here believe the McCann's are involved they've certainly not tried to fade into the background hoping everyone will forget about Madeleine.
Yellow Rose
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:

Yes bcause the McCanns had the investigation dropped when Concalo Amaral and his team where coming to the only logical conclussion... that they McCanns were implicated.



If they had anything at all to do with her dissappearance - why on earth two years later would they be digging it all up again in a desperate attempt to uncover new evidence? Surely to god if they'sd got something to hide they'd want to let sleeping dogs lie wouldn't they?

Some people are simply so hooked into conspiracy theories etc. - they simply can't see the truth for looking.
Soozy Woo
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Originally posted by *BB*:
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Originally posted by Gel:
Pedantism at it's best now.... I do wish the thread had, had the correct spelling of Madeleine to begin with


Even her own father couldn't spell her name correctly when he started his blog. That says rather a lot about him as a father.



Do you think so? My husband is wonderful father and grand father but has appalling spelling and a shocking memory ........I know for certain he wouldn't be able to give correct dates of births - full names etc. let alone spell them!!!! Really doesn't make him a bad dad/grand dad IMO.
Soozy Woo
Can any of their supporters/sympathisers tell me exactly what they did physically to search for Madeleine? Did they go out all night searching for her? I'm led to believe from what I have read that neither parent actually physically looked for Madeleine. This task was left for the people of PdL and the police force. This leads to other questions.

Why did they not take part in an official police reconstruction which would not be biased at all and then later on make their own programme which shows obvious bias and sensationalism on their part?

Why did Kate not answer any questions at all when interviewed by the police?

Why did they say they would never leave Portugal yet left two days after being made arguidos?

Why did they leave their other children in the aftermath of the disappearance to go and visit the Pope? What on earth was the Pope going to do?

Why haven't the friends been questioned about neglected their children?

Why have the Portugese police been so vilified in the press when the case files show that an extreme amount of work has gone into the investigation?
Comrade Ogilvy
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