quote:Oh and WTF was that "like praying arabs" bit about????
I haven't watched it all.. but so far that's my favourite bit.
I haven't watched it all.. but so far that's my favourite bit.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Right, so the new theory is that Madeleine fell, bumped her head and died. Her parents, both medically trained, covered it up by Gerry carrying her towards the beach, maybe to the church, asking a priest to help hide a child's body, but also maybe taking her back to the apartment and hiding her body in a wardrobe.
The police must have forgotten to check the wardrobes, but she must have been in there long enough to leave a cadavar odour for the dogs. Then three weeks later, they managed to get the body into a hire car, without the journalists or police noticing, and spirit her away to some hiding place, which has never been discovered.
They also managed to persuade their group of friends to all help cover it up. After all, Gerry must have been gone quite some time, carrying his daughter's body around the town, asking for help.
Their next step was to get as much publicity as possible, for two years now, in order to keep the story in the news, even though they would surely want it to die down, if they were guilty of anything.
Yes, it's easy to believe all that, isn't it?
There's always going to be conspiracy theories though, which is such a shame.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Right, so the new theory is that Madeleine fell, bumped her head and died. Her parents, both medically trained, covered it up by Gerry carrying her towards the beach, maybe to the church, asking a priest to help hide a child's body, but also maybe taking her back to the apartment and hiding her body in a wardrobe.
The police must have forgotten to check the wardrobes, but she must have been in there long enough to leave a cadavar odour for the dogs. Then three weeks later, they managed to get the body into a hire car, without the journalists or police noticing, and spirit her away to some hiding place, which has never been discovered.
They also managed to persuade their group of friends to all help cover it up. After all, Gerry must have been gone quite some time, carrying his daughter's body around the town, asking for help.
Their next step was to get as much publicity as possible, for two years now, in order to keep the story in the news, even though they would surely want it to die down, if they were guilty of anything.
It sounds to me like a desperate attempt to exonerate some shoddy detective work. Why are some ppl so eager to suspect the parents of causing their child's death?
quote:Originally posted by Lion:
The skull fragment found at the Jersey Care Home was eventually identified as skull I believe.
Link Or was this after they said it was cocunut
However my personal view is that unless Madeleine is found, alive or dead, none of us will ever know for certain what really happened.
Nope! Ignore the link...this was one month before they found it to be cocunut...sorry folks.
Doesn't change the fact the dogS had a good success rate, yes there were two, one found cadaver scent the other found blood.
Anyway.. dogs aside, it's all the other inconsistencies, the McCanns and their friends were clearly lying through their teeth.
Anyway.. dogs aside, it's all the other inconsistencies, the McCanns and their friends were clearly lying through their teeth.
There are always inconsistencies in witness statements.
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
So, lots of people are focusing on the crime they know the McCann's committed ie. child neglect. What's a suitable punishment?
well.... putting the remaining children on 'at risk' would be a start - and a visit from a social worker once a month would bring the o so perfect parents back down to earth
I have sat and read all through this thread this morning.
How do you know that this is not happening because when they came back to this country, Social Services did visit them as they should, even now we don't know they may still have a social worker who calls to check the children from time to time.
Mind you we would not be allowed to know if this was the case due to confidential nature of the Social Servies.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Right, so the new theory is that Madeleine fell, bumped her head and died. Her parents, both medically trained, covered it up by Gerry carrying her towards the beach, maybe to the church, asking a priest to help hide a child's body, but also maybe taking her back to the apartment and hiding her body in a wardrobe.
The police must have forgotten to check the wardrobes, but she must have been in there long enough to leave a cadavar odour for the dogs. Then three weeks later, they managed to get the body into a hire car, without the journalists or police noticing, and spirit her away to some hiding place, which has never been discovered.
They also managed to persuade their group of friends to all help cover it up. After all, Gerry must have been gone quite some time, carrying his daughter's body around the town, asking for help.
Their next step was to get as much publicity as possible, for two years now, in order to keep the story in the news, even though they would surely want it to die down, if they were guilty of anything.
I think you've cracked it there Bizzie.
Have you considered making a documentary? It could be quite lucrative you know!
I have mixed feelings about this case.
It's a strange one isn't it?
What I can't understand is why the parents and friends have not once said they regret their actions of that night i.e leaving the children alone. That they should never even have thought about it let alone done it.
Unless they have and I just haven't heard it....
It's a strange one isn't it?
What I can't understand is why the parents and friends have not once said they regret their actions of that night i.e leaving the children alone. That they should never even have thought about it let alone done it.
Unless they have and I just haven't heard it....
quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
I have mixed feelings about this case.
It's a strange one isn't it?
What I can't understand is why the parents and friends have not once said they regret their actions of that night i.e leaving the children alone. That they should never even have thought about it let alone done it.
Unless they have and I just haven't heard it....
This should help answer some of your questions.
Thanks Comrade - i'll have a look at that.
quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
Thanks Comrade - i'll have a look at that.
Ohh.. I should have said..
It's in Portugese but there are English subtitles.
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
Thanks Comrade - i'll have a look at that.
Ohh.. I should have said..
It's in Portugese but there are English subtitles.
Lol - I noticed.
Thank god I can read eh?
Theres one other theory that is plausible.Whilst I dont know of ANY parent who would ever leave their small children unattended for any length of time,I do know parents who routinely sedate their children if they want a fuss free evening entertaining.It's possible that the dose was miscalculated,or that she woke up groggy and fell.
Either way,I doubt very much we'll ever know the truth.Its a dreadful nightmare of a mess as a result of selfish stupidity on the parents part.No doubt they are paying the price now,but my sympathy would be far greater had they admitted leaving those babies was an irresponsible decision(if they have I'm yet to hear it).As for the friends who left a child who'd been sick,that simply beggars belief.
I just hope whatever happened to that little girl,she didnt,or isnt, suffering.
Either way,I doubt very much we'll ever know the truth.Its a dreadful nightmare of a mess as a result of selfish stupidity on the parents part.No doubt they are paying the price now,but my sympathy would be far greater had they admitted leaving those babies was an irresponsible decision(if they have I'm yet to hear it).As for the friends who left a child who'd been sick,that simply beggars belief.
I just hope whatever happened to that little girl,she didnt,or isnt, suffering.
quote:Originally posted by Miss_S:
I have mixed feelings about this case.
It's a strange one isn't it?
What I can't understand is why the parents and friends have not once said they regret their actions of that night i.e leaving the children alone. That they should never even have thought about it let alone done it.
Unless they have and I just haven't heard it....
They have, in every programme I've watched about it.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Have you considered making a documentary? It could be quite lucrative you know!
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
As for the friends who left a child who'd been sick,that simply beggars belief.
I was shocked when I heard that Mazzystar.
As you say, it beggars belief...
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Theres one other theory that is plausible.Whilst I dont know of ANY parent who would ever leave their small children unattended for any length of time,I do know parents who routinely sedate their children if they want a fuss free evening entertaining.It's possible that the dose was miscalculated,or that she woke up groggy and fell.
The kids were tested for drugs, as was Kate McCann.
Link
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Theres one other theory that is plausible.Whilst I dont know of ANY parent who would ever leave their small children unattended for any length of time,I do know parents who routinely sedate their children if they want a fuss free evening entertaining.It's possible that the dose was miscalculated,or that she woke up groggy and fell.Either way,I doubt very much we'll ever know the truth.Its a dreadful nightmare of a mess as a result of selfish stupidity on the parents part.No doubt they are paying the price now,but my sympathy would be far greater had they admitted leaving those babies was an irresponsible decision(if they have I'm yet to hear it).As for the friends who left a child who'd been sick,that simply beggars belief.
I just hope whatever happened to that little girl,she didnt,or isnt, suffering.
That is the conclussion the Portugese investigation led to, which led to the McCanns being listed as suspects. When questioned they refused to cooperate and fled home asap.
If you haven't done so already you should watch the documentary featuring Concalo Amaral who led the investigation... http://blip.tv/file/2036418
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
That is the conclussion the Portugese investigation led to, which led to the McCanns being listed as suspects. When questioned they refused to cooperate and fled home asap.
What's your take on Bizzie's link above, Comrade? Or is it that only Madelaine was given drugs? Or perhaps that the kids were only given drugs on this holiday which therefore wouldn't show up in hair samples?
I am not sure why I think this but I do feel the wife/mother seems a little scared of the husband/father does any one else get that feeling or is it only me
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
That is the conclussion the Portugese investigation led to, which led to the McCanns being listed as suspects. When questioned they refused to cooperate and fled home asap.
If you haven't done so already you should watch the documentary featuring Concalo Amaral who led the investigation... http://blip.tv/file/2036418
Where exactly would the parents have hidden the body? The police was called straight away and searched a wide perimeter. How can anyone envisage that they kept her body hidden for 3 weeks until they used a different car in which they took her to be disposed off? The video doesn't actually bring up anything we hadn't heard before.
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
I am not sure why I think this but I do feel the wife/mother seems a little scared of the husband/father does any one else get that feeling or is it only me
I don't.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
Where exactly would the parents have hidden the body? The police was called straight away and searched a wide perimeter. How can anyone envisage that they kept her body hidden for 3 weeks until they used a different car in which they took her to be disposed off? The video doesn't actually bring up anything we hadn't heard before.
3 week. In a hot country. The body, if there was one, probably walked away of its own accord! Ewww.
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
I am not sure why I think this but I do feel the wife/mother seems a little scared of the husband/father does any one else get that feeling or is it only me
Hiya kasper,
Can't say I do. They both seem very intelligent, composed and not ones to show their feelings. Well that is what I think whenever I have seen them being interviewed.
As for theories about them having killed Maddie, I really don't see that as having been the case.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by kasper:
I am not sure why I think this but I do feel the wife/mother seems a little scared of the husband/father does any one else get that feeling or is it only me
Hiya kasper,
Can't say I do. They both seem very intelligent, composed and not ones to show their feelings. Well that is what I think whenever I have seen them being interviewed.
As for theories about them having killed Maddie, I really don't see that as having been the case.
Well it was just a feeling I get when I see them together she seems uncomfortable with him there but I suppose she just generaly feels uncomfortable.
Where I live a young boy has been missing for 18 years his name is Ben Needham he was about 18 months old when he went missing in Greece on one of the islands and he has never been found
He would be coming up to being 21 soon
I just wonder how these people live with themselves when they abduct children
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
Where I live a young boy has been missing for 18 years his name is Ben Needham he was about 18 months old when he went missing in Greece on one of the islands and he has never been found
He would be coming up to being 21 soon
I just wonder how these people live with themselves when they abduct children
Is that the lad who went missing in Greece? It just doesn't bear thinking about, sometimes not knowing must be so much worse than knowing.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by kasper:
Where I live a young boy has been missing for 18 years his name is Ben Needham he was about 18 months old when he went missing in Greece on one of the islands and he has never been found
He would be coming up to being 21 soon
I just wonder how these people live with themselves when they abduct children
Is that the lad who went missing in Greece? It just doesn't bear thinking about, sometimes not knowing must be so much worse than knowing.
yes his mother has had a dreadful time she still is activley looking for him I suppose she always will I know I would in her shoes.
quote:Originally posted by kasper:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by kasper:
I am not sure why I think this but I do feel the wife/mother seems a little scared of the husband/father does any one else get that feeling or is it only me
Hiya kasper,
Can't say I do. They both seem very intelligent, composed and not ones to show their feelings. Well that is what I think whenever I have seen them being interviewed.
As for theories about them having killed Maddie, I really don't see that as having been the case.
Well it was just a feeling I get when I see them together she seems uncomfortable with him there but I suppose she just generaly feels uncomfortable.
Perhaps it's the stress of living a lie.
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
yes his mother has had a dreadful time she still is activley looking for him I suppose she always will I know I would in her shoes.
I don't think anyone would give up if their child was missing. Very sad
Read this I thought it was interesting reading
last post did not work so try this instead
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.u...89...-of-Maddie.html
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.u...89...-of-Maddie.html
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
last post did not work so try this instead
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.u...89...-of-Maddie.html
just giving this a boost up the ladder
quote:Originally posted by kasper:
last post did not work so try this instead
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.u...89...-of-Maddie.html
Not working for me.
I'm getting...
quote:Page not found
Sorry, the page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is unavailable.
i think theres a piece of the puzzle missing that is being hidden.
This must give hope to the McCann's that they'll find the person responsible, surely it has to be the man seen watching their appt which was shown in the reconstruction the other night. I hope they can find resolution one way or another soon.
quote:
That article (like so much of the British press reportage on the case) is bunk.
The Evidence goes shows the abduction story / alibi to be false and accidental death followed bt disposal to be far more likely.