Cannot believe its been 2 years since she went missing, cannot imagine what her family must be feeling today, i have a 4 year old daughter and cannot even contemplate not kissing her everyday, do you think the case will ever be solved?
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we were discussing this yesterday, hubby & I, and neither of us think that it will ever be solved 
know what you mean gel, its been such a long time now, not often these situations have a happy ending
No
we personally think she'll never show up, in a way, all the publicity may have had a detrimental effect, the wee girl is just 'too hot to handle' if you get my drift
we personally think she'll never show up, in a way, all the publicity may have had a detrimental effect, the wee girl is just 'too hot to handle' if you get my drift
exactly, as soon as the distinctive mark in her eye was made common knowledge i felt that, i understand the reasons for it being made public but it was a double edged sword wasn't it
Did anyone see the photo of how someone thinks she may look like now in the Daily Mail yesterday? Sad all round, I doubt she'll be found after this long, but it has happened. Her parents must think of the few cases were folk have turned up after being missing for years.
It made me cry to hear that she might have gone missing because she was looking for her parents. That made me angry with them then. Then sad that they know theres no going back on mistakes. No winners.
quote:Originally posted by savana:
Did anyone see the photo of how someone thinks she may look like now in the Daily Mail yesterday? Sad all round, I doubt she'll be found after this long, but it has happened. Her parents must think of the few cases were folk have turned up after being missing for years.
yes I saw that. And yes I would guess in the same situation, I would never give up hope
quote:Originally posted by savana:
Did anyone see the photo of how someone thinks she may look like now in the Daily Mail yesterday? Sad all round, I doubt she'll be found after this long, but it has happened. Her parents must think of the few cases were folk have turned up after being missing for years.
Yes I saw that. I think that anyone who has a child that is missing, cannot give up hope otherwise you would just give up and die. There is always hope, no matter how slim, that this poor little girl will be found.
quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:
exactly, as soon as the distinctive mark in her eye was made common knowledge i felt that, i understand the reasons for it being made public but it was a double edged sword wasn't it
Indeed it was, still is.
I win.
quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i agree i'm sure all there cases were classed as hopeless at one time or another but ended up with a happy ending, who knows, would really love this to be the same
quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
Yes I agree with you. I keep hoping shell turn up in a few years. Its all too sad now.
quote:Originally posted by Windswept:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
Yes I agree with you. I keep hoping shell turn up in a few years. Its all too sad now.
sad thing must be for the parents is when sightings keep being reported, the high followed by the low must be horrific
quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i remember watching a tv film on steven......'i know my first name is steven'......
he was abducted at 7.....and his captors snatched another little boy years later......steven took him to the police station to get him out......it was a heartbreaking film....and that's how he ended up free himself
sadly steven was killed in a accident at 21......
quote:Originally posted by savana:quote:Originally posted by Windswept:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
Yes I agree with you. I keep hoping shell turn up in a few years. Its all too sad now.
sad thing must be for the parents is when sightings keep being reported, the high followed by the low must be horrific
And then the blame of each other for leaving her. That must be a part of each low,theyre human and in turmoil of the worst order.
quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:
Cannot believe its been 2 years since she went missing, cannot imagine what her family must be feeling today, i have a 4 year old daughter and cannot even contemplate not kissing her everyday, do you think the case will ever be solved?
Nope.
quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i remember watching a tv film on steven......'i know my first name is steven'......
he was abducted at 7.....and his captors snatched another little boy years later......steven took him to the police station to get him out......it was a heartbreaking film....and that's how he ended up free himself
sadly steven was killed in a accident at 21......
OMG i didn't know that he had been killed, thats awful
here you go juju.......like you say....it's awful......
Steven married Jody Edmondson on June 13, 1985, and they went on to have two children, a son and daughter.
On September 16, 1989, just before 5:00pm PDT while riding home after his shift at Pizza Hut, his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car that pulled out into traffic. Steven received head injuries that were to prove fatal; he died at the Merced Community Medical Center at 5:35pm. He was driving without a license (suspended for a third time due to excessive traffic violations) and without his helmet, which had been stolen a few days before. Over 500 people attended his funeral, including then-14-year-old Timmy White, who helped carry Steven's coffin into the church. Steven had joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just prior to his death.
(timmy white was the other boy kenneth parnell abducted)......
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i remember watching a tv film on steven......'i know my first name is steven'......
he was abducted at 7.....and his captors snatched another little boy years later......steven took him to the police station to get him out......it was a heartbreaking film....and that's how he ended up free himself
sadly steven was killed in a accident at 21......
OMG i didn't know that he had been killed, thats awful
here you go juju.......like you say....it's awful......
Steven married Jody Edmondson on June 13, 1985, and they went on to have two children, a son and daughter.
On September 16, 1989, just before 5:00pm PDT while riding home after his shift at Pizza Hut, his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car that pulled out into traffic. Steven received head injuries that were to prove fatal; he died at the Merced Community Medical Center at 5:35pm. He was driving without a license (suspended for a third time due to excessive traffic violations) and without his helmet, which had been stolen a few days before. Over 500 people attended his funeral, including then-14-year-old Timmy White, who helped carry Steven's coffin into the church. Steven had joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just prior to his death.
(timmy white was the other boy kenneth parnell abducted)......
Thanks for that spongey
so sad quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:
Cannot believe its been 2 years since she went missing, cannot imagine what her family must be feeling today, i have a 4 year old daughter and cannot even contemplate not kissing her everyday, do you think the case will ever be solved?
I doubt they will ever find her - all the publicity after she first went missing and nothing was found so i doubt now that anything will come up!!
Also they have given that updated photo but if she is still alive i doubt she would look anything like that - it is almost certain a kidnapper would do whatever they could to change her appearance!!
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for years by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i remember watching a tv film on steven......'i know my first name is steven'......
he was abducted at 7.....and his captors snatched another little boy years later......steven took him to the police station to get him out......it was a heartbreaking film....and that's how he ended up free himself
sadly steven was killed in a accident at 21......
OMG i didn't know that he had been killed, thats awful
here you go juju.......like you say....it's awful......
Steven married Jody Edmondson on June 13, 1985, and they went on to have two children, a son and daughter.
On September 16, 1989, just before 5:00pm PDT while riding home after his shift at Pizza Hut, his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car that pulled out into traffic. Steven received head injuries that were to prove fatal; he died at the Merced Community Medical Center at 5:35pm. He was driving without a license (suspended for a third time due to excessive traffic violations) and without his helmet, which had been stolen a few days before. Over 500 people attended his funeral, including then-14-year-old Timmy White, who helped carry Steven's coffin into the church. Steven had joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just prior to his death.
(timmy white was the other boy kenneth parnell abducted)......
yeah i remember every detail as you posted, sad how he tried to fit in with his family but just never felt right.
i was just refreshing my memory on the steven stayner case.....appears his older brother is on death row for the murder of 4 people.....
I guess all we can do is hope, poor little thing
"My name is Steven Stainer. I am fourteen years of age. I don't know my true birthdate,
but I use April 18, 1965. I know my first name is Steven, I'm pretty sure my last is Stainer,
and if I have a middle name, I don't know it."
This always gives me hope....
but I use April 18, 1965. I know my first name is Steven, I'm pretty sure my last is Stainer,
and if I have a middle name, I don't know it."
This always gives me hope....
Did anyone see the McCann's interview with Oprah?
I hope it will be repeated on some channel.
I'm very skeptical of Psychics but I've seen an American programme and I'm amazed at how they are able to locate people when the police were at a dead end. Do you think the McCanns have contacted any Psychics?
I hope it will be repeated on some channel.
I'm very skeptical of Psychics but I've seen an American programme and I'm amazed at how they are able to locate people when the police were at a dead end. Do you think the McCanns have contacted any Psychics?
quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i agree i'm sure all there cases were classed as hopeless at one time or another but ended up with a happy ending, who knows, would really love this to be the same
I can't see any happy ending. Even if she was found alive and well and returned to her parents she wouldn't recognise them as her parents after 2 years. They would be complete strangers to her.
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by jujubedoo:quote:Originally posted by savana:
when you think of "Stephen" an american lad who was kidnapped at 7 and returned about 18, then there was the Natasha Kamp.... (sorry spelling) she was kept in a cellor for yars by her captor in Austria, then of course, Elizabeth Frizl, al they situations would play over and over in your head if your child was missing, i'd imagine so anyhow.
i agree i'm sure all there cases were classed as hopeless at one time or another but ended up with a happy ending, who knows, would really love this to be the same
I can't see any happy ending. Even if she was found alive and well and returned to her parents she wouldn't recognise them as her parents after 2 years. They would be complete strangers to her.
Thats true
That would be pretty heartbreaking in itself *shudders* I can't imagine losing my little girl.
I cant even begin to think how they must feel n i feel so very very sorry for them.
Every sympathy goes out to her family but particularly to her a leading British criminologists report highlighted a long series of police mistakes in the case of Madeline.
Had these errors not happened she may have been found. He also said going by the evidence he believes that Madeline woke up and went looking for her parents. It is only fair to say the family denied this and say she was took from the room. However it would explain some things .
Whatever did happpen even if she is found alive she will never be the same as the day she was taken. I do hope she is found but also hope alive and happy wherever she is.
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Had these errors not happened she may have been found. He also said going by the evidence he believes that Madeline woke up and went looking for her parents. It is only fair to say the family denied this and say she was took from the room. However it would explain some things .
Whatever did happpen even if she is found alive she will never be the same as the day she was taken. I do hope she is found but also hope alive and happy wherever she is.
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Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
Hindsight is perfect vision, eh.
quote:Originally posted by JasmineJ:quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
Hindsight is perfect vision, eh.
Nope. Comes down to basic common sense.
quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
totally agree
i was only speaking about this case with my dad today, it must be heartbreaking for gerry and kate, having to live through this waiting for answers, but at the end of the day, they are the people that are to blame for the circumstances they find theselves in imo, my daughter is 14 and i wouldn't even leave her alone in the house while i went out for a drink in our own home let alone in a strange place
quote:Originally posted by Cariad:quote:Originally posted by JasmineJ:quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
Hindsight is perfect vision, eh.
Nope. Comes down to basic common sense.
I agree.
quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
I completely agree (hey btw xx)
quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
totally agree
i was only speaking about this case with my dad today, it must be heartbreaking for gerry and kate, having to live through this waiting for answers, but at the end of the day, they are the people that are to blame for the circumstances they find theselves in imo, my daughter is 14 and i wouldn't even leave her alone in the house while i went out for a drink in our own home let alone in a strange place
I totally agree. However, that doesn't stop me from feeling anything but sadness for Kate and Gerry. However questionable their actions were the consequences have been devastating they have to live with the horror of that every day of their lives
quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
totally agree
i was only speaking about this case with my dad today, it must be heartbreaking for gerry and kate, having to live through this waiting for answers, but at the end of the day, they are the people that are to blame for the circumstances they find theselves in imo, my daughter is 14 and i wouldn't even leave her alone in the house while i went out for a drink in our own home let alone in a strange place
I totally agree. However, that doesn't stop me from feeling anything but sadness for Kate and Gerry. However questionable their actions were the consequences have been devastating they have to live with the horror of that every day of their lives
I agree Boltonfan and I also think that they felt they were in a situation where they were sort of in their back garden with the proximity of the flat to the restaurant and the general feel of the resort. I wouldn't have peace myself to do that, but I also feel nobody can really judge.
quote:Originally posted by boltonfan2:quote:Originally posted by Aimee:quote:Originally posted by Cariad:
Given the publicity I suspect the poor mite is long dead.
Whole different attitude when it comes to parents leaving their kids alone. If you want a family holiday then have a family holiday. If you want lovely sociable evenings sans offspring then leave them with their grandparents.
totally agree
i was only speaking about this case with my dad today, it must be heartbreaking for gerry and kate, having to live through this waiting for answers, but at the end of the day, they are the people that are to blame for the circumstances they find theselves in imo, my daughter is 14 and i wouldn't even leave her alone in the house while i went out for a drink in our own home let alone in a strange place
I totally agree. However, that doesn't stop me from feeling anything but sadness for Kate and Gerry. However questionable their actions were the consequences have been devastating they have to live with the horror of that every day of their lives
i agree, the guilt must be over powering, but why on earth they thought it was ok to leave 3 children under the age of 5 alone is beyond me
But they did n God help them they have paid for it,my heart goes out to them
Were there 2 or 3 other couples with the McCanns that night? They must have twinges of guilt also at times that there children were spared, while Kate and Jerry have to endure the pain of not knowing.