awwww hugo is looking really handsome!!!!!

ditty, your little baby looks so sweet, I think they will sort it out, I read that it takes about 3 weeks before they start to sort it out and can take months... hope they sort it soon.

I may have the same sittuation when 'muna' comes   the cat dealer breeder keeps updating us on when she will be ready to find a new loving home.... that zazz   Im not sure how i feel about it, worried she will upset the happy little thing we got going on here. But then she might be wonderful

Lastly..... cat litter! I have found this amazing man on ebay that sells a uk alternative and much cheaper version of "the worlds best cat litter".  Ive bought a sample off him and it was great! Here is the link....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STRA...;hash=item45fd3a247b

yeah... I'd read it can take a while too Gyps...   I keep telling myself that if we can't get it sorted in the short term...  then it will be ok in a few months when at least she is bigger (at the moment she is doggie bitesize).

I have no choice... I have to persevere now...  and I still think it will be good for the dog.  It already has been in some ways..   he has a new spring in his step & is all smiley (though the reasons for this might not be the fluffy cuddly ones I hope for).

Re: you bringing another cat into your house...    tough call really.    We tried to home an abandoned Cairn cross breed when AJ was a couple of years old..   I tried everything, power walking them...  letting them scrap.. but both dogs insisted on being Alphas.   So my parents tried to take him in...  and he dominated their existing cairn to the point where he was a miserable unhappy wreck.   Worst bit was when the three dogs were together...   the dynamic changed.. and much as it broke my heart to do it, we had to take the rescue back (he did find his perfect home a few weeks later..  & looking back he should never have been allowed to go to a home with children or existing pets... he was a one on one type of dog).

Normally I wouldn't have been able to return a dog that had already had a rough ride.. but when you see your existing pets struggling & upset it makes it a little easier 

Thats what im worried about, But im resloved that if it does upset our two then its going back. Apparently she is really dominant and will try to bully them but because ours are kittens then it might be easier (so says the cat dealer, who wants rid)

.... I might still say no. Its a lot of expense as well, it costs me £40 a month in insurance for my two, that's another £20 before we even start on food / litter / vaccines.

I did think...   you'd think the breeder would give the mummy cat a home for life there really wouldn't you?

I don't know how she can bear to part with her, having had her for so long!

Anyway... about that cat litter...  it looks good..  but I am struggling to work out the cost of that compared to what we have...  cos the litter we have is sold in litre bags...   & he is selling that stuff in kg bags..  & its impossible to convert litres to kgs without knowing the density!

(though I get the gist...  its good value compared to similar in the shops... and if used as directed)

I bought some similar on ebay, but from a different seller. I got two bags and when emptied, they filled a 40 litre plastic storage bin. That seller also sold in bags of 25kg, but he put (55lbs) in brackets ...if that helps

yeah the cat dealer (im so always going to call her that) ... She has LOADS of cats, she has already kept about 4 of her retired cats as pets, i think shes just running out of room. At any one time she has about 3 queens pregnant or giving birth.

actually that storage box is 80 litres. Its a biiiig one on wheels, you know the sort.

yeah.. that does help 

which is good... cos the circular conversation going on around me about weight, mass, density, litres, kilo's & pounds was really starting to do my head in 

I think the cat dealer is wrong to not give them a settled retirement in (what they must think of as) their home...    but...   on the other hand...   if it worked out with your two maybe she might be better off with you

Hugos Breeders have his parents as pets as well as using them for breeding,they would never get rid of them,they are both champions anyway.We are waiting for the vets letter to say that Hugo is now castrated so we can get his pedigree papers sent on.

In fairness to her, i omitted to say that she is also poorly and so winding down her breeding commitments. She has kidney failure (and is still young). But even if she didn't have health problems, she has far too many to keep them all. They live in big outdoor enclosures, its not just one or two she keeps to breed with, its about 15-20. 

I also forgot to say... when she goes in to hospital in a few weeks, guess who zazz has volunteered to change their water etc .... ME !!!!! Ohhh no , not zazz... me!  Zazz has got really friendly with her and has been going round for coffee and chats all the time, ive met her twice, but since someone is working now muggins has the job

Im really secretly over the moon, i get to be surrounded by all those magnificent cats and i believe there will still be one litter of kittens there, not quite old enough to home yet. (lets just hope that none of those little scoundrels get in my bag or mysteriously disappear

See, I was thinking of you, dear!!

Hinge and Brackett...I really need to get you pair neutered!

Gyps has been trying to take pics of various things to put on Ebay, while Zeus has been lording it around the place wearing his vest thinking the camera is out for him All I can hear is"Zeus get out the way" Awww, he does love his vest!!

Mutley has started treating her kittens like interlopers, hissing and snarling at them. Is that normal behaviour now that they're getting older?

I would say so, Cologne, The breeder who we got our cats from, who are ALL really loving, and slightly soft in the head...one of the Mum cats can never be bothered with her litters she hisses at them and growls, from after about a week shes like ok, I gave birth to you now get out of my face!! and one of the other mum cats looks after them its mad, so I wouldnt worry too much if I were you...

Cheers zazz, at least she mothered them until about 2 weeks ago. They're very respectful towards her.  

ahahaahaa! cute! you keeping any of them, or all of them?

One went a few weeks ago, but only as far as my best mate. The other two are going nowhere, even though they're a handful. Today's count of dead animals: 2 birds, three mice, 1 frog.

We went to the mad cat dealing laydee this evening....a change of events has taken place....we all decided, Muna wouldnt fit in with our family, she is too demanding, and wouldnt be any good with Zeus and Atlas..awwww...

Anyway, it would seen there is this little silver girl, with a broken tail, in need of a "good home" that home just happens to be here the mad cat dealer saw us coming...

Soooooooooo

what do you think....

Zazz, what 'make' are they? They're too cute.

They are Bengals, cologne.

she's lovely, zazz! Do you have her yet??

Thanks Lori. They are so sweet. I must try and get a picture of mine on here. Henry looks like an earlier litter compared to Liquorice, he's huge and she's a little porcellan doll, but with a lot more courage than wussy Henry.

Love the name Licorice.

Yeah, sorry, Cologne, they are Bengals...gawjuss eh!

Lori...I am just being manipulated into going to collect her tomorrow...the mad cat dealer said "a silver will complete your collection" we seriously need to stop visiting that woman!!!

Gyps has gotten all maternal here....I think the mad tidy up, and storage madness was the start of her "nesting" this house is just too damn cute!!

Awwww....

cat collections. what a novel idea. 

awwww zazz, that wee girl! Happy new cat  

Sadly they will often see their kittens as rival cats after a while. I remember one cat we had during my childhood, she had a litter of gorgeous kittens and one day they went missing.......we searched everywhere and then heard mewing noises coming from the kitchen - seems mummy cat had got bored and decided to stuff them behind the washing machine

Zazz, that silver girl is beautiful!

We have her home with us now...she is a real little sweetie...the boyz are being a bit mental, but mainly with each other rather than her

Hehe, are they accepting her? I look forward to more pics!

they are happy she bought food with her

early days, but so far, not too bad

Here is a video of the little laydee who is munching on FILLET steak....YES!!! fillet steak...she is better fed than me and the little Gyps!!! Gyps being a veggie doesnt have a clue on meat, so rather than just picking up some cheap frying steak or something, she comes back with tescos best fillet steak spoilt little princess that Egypt is!!

Sadly Atlas and Zeus wont do the eating raw meat but Egypt, as small as she is, does their share!!

It should be pointed out, cat food and litter is not normally kept in the living room, just with the new arrival, we are having to keep her food and toilet seperate from the boys....

She is gorgeous, Zazz - but fillet steak for a kitten?!

You need to have a word with Gyps, before she bankrupts you both.

I've had the chat with Gyps about the meat...I think I will have to start doing the shopping, ALONE!!!

Egypt is so sweeeeet. Its so funny the way Zeus is gawping in the background too 

Ok there was a reason i bought the fillet steak. I saw it all chopped up in the fresh meat counter. I reckoned it would be cheaper to get one little bit (it looked from a distance to be a little cube) than to get a whole tray of meat.  I nearly fainted when one chunk was £2.30. Lesson learnt

She is so adorable, she is so fearless. The boys are going mental, hissing and in a strop all around her and she just trots past them going on with her playing, oblivious.

*want*

She's gorgeous!

Little Egypt is sooo pretty! 

ohh i cant see your posts soozy

Well it was a real cute picture .....................sorry can't get it to post