Why does it matter? She's another FM,

IMO Simon craves money a hell of a lot more than Louis, Simon jumps on every public tragedy, organises a record to raise money (as well as his public profile). When some people come on and perform you can literally see the pound signs in his eyes. I have went off Simon a lot this year. Only judge I like is Danni.

PMSL!! Your knees must be filthy!

They both have their good and bad points I guess, but Simon really tries to see what works (IMO)

So what if they both crave money? So what if Chez Tweedy or anyone for that matter craves money!

There are worse things to crave.

Cologne - shut yer cakehole.

Prom. No you haven't!!!

We agree on that.

I refuse to crawl further to someone who pretends to be Bruce Lee who clearly isn't 

imo, the judges put folk through who they see can line their pockets irrespective if they can sing etc. unfortunately it is us the general public who have to suffer the aftermath with the likes of jedward popping up everywhere on TV and radio. There are enough talented singers/musicions/bands out there without the likes of XFactor pushing more of this rubbish down our throughts. Suppose in 10 years time the same end will be bestowed on this show as happened with BB. Hope it happens sooner.

Danni, the statue with the face with no expression

By the way Cologne Karma and I know each other from waaaay back in forumland. She's not 'just an FM' to me, she's a mate. An odd one I'll give you that but nonetheless...

Do I know you Prom? Cos I've known Karma from waaay back in forumland too!

At least her opinions strecth further than;

'You're Beautiful' and her new one 'You're Quirky'...

I don't know anyone on here, but I know enough about rhythm to know louis aint got none.


He can't even clap in time.........he reminds me of one of the royals.....claps like a seal

There are, and some very good ones which remain largely unknown. Unfortunately the show is defined by its target audience. Just as The Sun is an incredibly popular 'newspaper' for people who aren't very bright, X Factor's target audience is people who want good-looking people doing unspeakably crap cover versions of true classics.

Don't just blame the X Factor, it's only providing a service in the same way as everyone's favourite toilet-paper substitute.

 So true  

Whos opinions only stretch to this?

I can't be absolutely sure but I think I had you with warm milk once?

I've remembered now......duchess of Kent.......lovely woman, and always turned up at Wimbledon.

Couldn't clap in a co-ordinated fashion  though.

Good one!! Never heard that one before

Yes well, you pretend to be a naked man with a ready break glow round your head and you probably are

Odd my arris But thank you all the same

Oh God WAY too much information

I can't help it if me and Crunchy got intimate. I probably put too much sugar on top to be fair... oops you probably didn't want to hear that either?

I missed the first half hour as I was watching something more interesting. Turned over and saw a boy singer telling Simon he wasn't a good dancer but Simon told him to take part. Then in the older age group a woman seemed to be struggling with a dance routine but persevered anyway.


My thoughts were why do they have to learn to dance when they want to be singers! None of who I would call the "greats" felt they had to dance to get a song across, they concentrated on what they felt they were good at and were meant to be doing, not prancing around the stage.


Some of today's singers are also natural dancers but tbh if I like a record it's because of the song not the dancing. I love all forms of dance and dedicated dancers stick to what they're good at I doubt they'd appreciate being told they have to learn to sing as well. Anyway after watching the so called dancing bit I switched channels, think I'm getting past all the hype on Factor, just can't get into it this year

It was a ridiculous idea. Even Simon said he wasn't sure it was a good idea. Idiot, he should know better than anyone that it was completely irrelevant. Having said that, they all had to sing at the end to go through so hopefully the stupid dance 'audition' was dutifully ignored anyway.

I liked the dance part

The dance part was good to watch BUT it is a SINGING competition. If the dance lesson will be an integral part of future shows then a lot of people won't bother auditioning next year, plus it will no longer be an 'open to all' competition as it will automatically eliminate disabled people or those with limited movement. Wrong move, Mister C.

I just thought it was bizarre. More pertinent to the budding boy/girl bands I suppose but for the solo artists? Bizarre. I bet it gets axed next year if they do another one.

Next year they will all have to play piano.

Whilst juggling fire sticks.

Yes that was my point Karma. In the early auditions were any of them asked if they could dance? don't remember hearing that from what (little) I saw. If they'd said no would they have been eliminated? They all say they want to be pop singers, not dancers

Another thing, if he carries it on next year all there will be is an influx of trained stage school kids. Raw natural talent from Bob the friendly postman or Deirdre the shelf stacker will be no more. He's got BGT for multi-talented folks. He needs to stop trying to be so incestuous!

With ear plugs in. Just to see if they could be the modern day fire juggling Beethoven.

And if they're in the over 25's category they have to do all of the above AND close their eyes to replicate a modern day fire juggling deaf and blind Bach!

Is that what's called multi taskin, Blizzie

They make have to be Brahms and Liszt, too.

I think so.
These things are a mystery, to me.

Olly Murs. Was that his name from last year? God I hated him. They need a few Bobs and Deirdre's who are a bit better than him. He did his stupid Fred Astaire dance to every single song he performed. God I hated him.

Sorry, went off on a little rant there