this is what happens when schools fail to teach ancient and modern history from primary to secondary school. 

I doubt there are many children that could tell you the lineage of the kings and queens of England 

tbh I'm struggling a bit on that too Pengy...    I know a few of them..  but ask me what order and I am flummoxed.

I don't really think its essential knowledge *runs from Pengys wrath*

I do think the youngling Summer spoke to should have known who Charles is....    given the history with Diana & Camilla etc.

*pops back to say*

I think that geography that is taught in schools should focus a bit more on where places are than meandering rivers, plate techtonics & sea groynes.    Last week my 18yr old daughter said that Botswana was in Europe!

Ditty   I'm just on my high horse because history and geography are subjects that should be thoroughly taught at school but are either being dumbed down so they aren't worth studying or they are not on the curriculum at all 

I couldn't do the lineage of kings and queens  but then I had an Irish education for my primary years and by the time I came to England, it was all world war one/two stuff that was taught 

you're lucky...   

in my history lessons we did the rise & fall of Communist China!!!   So I can tell you all about mao tse tung & chang kai shek....   but bugger all about the kings & queens of england.

If I am honest...  a lot of history bores the backside offa me! 

But I think there would be some merit in teaching comprehensive political history in schools...   

I am a big believer in teaching things that people need to know in life.    Same with geography..   I really needed to know that Bristol was not in the North (yeah...  I thought it was til I was in my 20's)...   if I had needed to know about sedementary rock formations... I could have studied that in further or higher education.

da gang of four    were you taught from a little red book 

I agree with that but I also feel that you can learn from history i.e. you can understand why some countries don't like other ones etc., but that's not always taught 

I didn't realise it had fallen, I thought it was still rising! 

yeah...  i was thinking that as I typed it..    but the title "the rise & fall... " is stuck in my head... 

maybe it was the fall & rise...  ahhh whatever...   I got a Grade C GCE in it..   Scraped it basically 

yeah...  & that is why I think political history should be taught...   I've learned loads from MrD..   he did political history (at his posh school)..   so he tells me the interesting stuff.    he did all about Machiavelli in his A Level..    

He says I am a true child of Machiavelli 

hahahaha...   

it led to the best family argument in my house ever!!    My Nana (my Mums Mum) was a (in my Dads words) "Sun reading Tory"...   by Dad, a loud & proud socialist..     My Nana starting going off on one at Sunday dinner about how the school were trying to make us all communists by teaching us about Mao & Co in history..    it got a bit heated...    My Nan (as usual) over stepped the mark and started calling my dad all sorts of names...      then, before our eyes my Dad threw his yorkshire pudding across the table and it schlopped into the side of my nana's face...  gravy spattering everywhere...  and it just slid... in slo mo silence down her face onto her plate!

Twas v v v v funny!  (though we had to try not to laugh)

(& my dad hadn't meant to chuck it at her...   he was gesticulating with his fork, which happened to have his yorkshire pud on it)

If it's still communist then it must be one of the last bastions of it, Ditty, along with Cuba I suppose, but then I can't keep pace with all the changes going on around the world.

The trouble with History is that every year there's more to learn. 

Alan Bennett once said:

'History is just one f**king thing after another'

did she eat it or give it back 

History:  gossip well told.  ~Elbert Hubbard, The Roycroft Dictionary.

  What a waste of a yorkshire pud.

I wish they would teach basic history how we were taught it. Starting with dinosaurs,then cavemen, then the Iron age, then the bronze age, etc, etc. leading up to the first monarch and who was king/queen and the social history of the time, right up to the present day. That way children get a better perspective and time line of the past. When they get to G.C.S.E  the chuck in the political stuff. 

that's what I was trying to say but you've said it so much better 

I have a question about Prince Phillip.

Why isn't he a King ?

He was a junior member of both the Greek and Danish monachy.  He couldn't become a King when he married the present Queen because as it stands a King takes presidence over a Queen and that would have meant she would have had to let him make all decisions and interact with the Prime Minister but it's the Queen not him that inherited the throne therefore he can't become King

I'm assuming that all that is true cos I haven't really got an idea 

You sound so clever Pengles - even if that isn't true I still believe you

because he smells

source?

a la C4 news forum

yeah....  that sounds good! 

I lubs the Prince Phillip 

 

SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk

 

The Queen has conferred the title and office of Lord High Admiral to the Duke of Edinburgh on the occassion of his 90th birthday

Good girl - I think he deserves that .. and more

Originally Posted by pirate1111:

 

SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk

 

The Queen has conferred the title and office of Lord High Admiral to the Duke of Edinburgh on the occassion of his 90th birthday

Good girl - I think he deserves that .. and more

oh you jumped in and spoiled the link

lol

Rexicles 

sorry

you still haven't answered, did your nana eat that yorkshire pudding? 

DianaInHeaven Princess Diana

 

Where do this twitter type links come from? Does anyone know? Is Diana In Heaven an FM here?

I'm awful confused ... Lori (I know you are about tonight - educate me )

no she didn't..   I seem to remember her getting up and shuffling out of the room... my mum following her...  my dad then stomping through to his chair in the living room...  

and a heavy atmosphere of discontent settled on the house for the rest of the day 

No wonder I used to spend as little time in the house as possible when I was a teenager...  I probably escaped out to walk the streets in the rain with my mates, whilst sharing the 3 JPS we bought as singles from the dodgy "corner" shop!

You are correct Pengy

blimey,

when people used to say 'SOURCE' it really annoyed me lol