back to the nest Ben still talking about making the choice to nom Sunshine

JJ saying lets just drop it

Dave's issue is he saw it different - they were all friends because they were encouraging each other

Ben says yes, but there were arguments Dave didn't see

After a few days she was a nightmare lots of little things

JJ says just leave it - no point in talking about it anymore ...it'll get them into trouble

Ben continues .... on the theme of loyalty

JJ felt they were on the same level - Ben didn't

JJ says he doesn't understand what he did and tries to leave.  Ben calls him back to continue....

Please Please do!!! Please !!! ...I really struggle with this when there's so much going on!!!

I think when there is a lot happening extra LUTers is useful because one may pick up what another misses.  Here goes.

mario and Ben in the nest - they hug

Mario says I don't care what others think about you I'm your friend.  I made the decision on the first night

Ben begins to say I did nothing wrong.... Mario shushes him and tries to encourage him to enjoy the experience

Ben continues on the theme of it's a game

mario says for most it's reality he has to learn to accept this

Ben asks if they're deluded

mario - we're all deluded

For sure ... I know I can't keep up

You`re welcome Kayteekins  

Just read that Shabby and Keeva are saying they lost the shopping task anyway. I was sure I heard Shabby said they won and that BB were cruel because they gave them it then took away because of the rule breaks?  I could be wrong. Maybe someone else could clarify?..thanks.

Ben has been continuing to analyse and says something to the effect that it was producers did stuff with the curry (no idea what he's referring to)

Mario says Ben sometimes I think you're not intelligent at all - you have to appreciate that for everyone in here it is reality you have to take this on board otherwise you won't enjoy the experience ( he looked a little frustrated)

They chat about how quickly things can change - then decide to go into house

The Nest. Mario wears spectacles with only one arm.
Ben and Mario discuss whether housemates are regarding it as a game or reality.
Ben says "It's a game!" and seems a bit surprised that others take it more seriously.
Dave puts his head in to announce there is no hot water. Now his whole body is in.

Mario and Dave reassure Ben that they feel the same about him.

Ben still doubtful about why John James spends so much time with some of the other people "who spit poison."    (opinion - I too am not clear who JJ has the closest relationships with - does he love everybody equally?)
Dave says friendships have "to be built. We are still finding out."
Dave says he would have liked to have been in the mole hole (while shoving his hand down his pants.)
Mario says the BB experience is very important like reality to many of the housemates. But for Dave and Ben, Mario says, it has always been less important.
Ben yawns. Yawns again.
Mario says people are hungry and tired but maybe things will be better after everyone has had a good nights sleep.
They agree how easy it is in BB to go from hero to villian in a very short time.
"Food" is announced and they dash to the house.

Scotty the part of the convo i heard was around some part of the task that they were saying for sure took longer than 2 hours .... not sure what.  JJ also said to shabby that some  task took longer than 2 hours and BB were just playing with them

Caoimhe is doing Josie's hair over the dining table. (Every series someone does their hair in the kitchen.)
I don't know how long they have been without food, but this causing great excitement.
Dave is called to the DRoom.
Ben has twice shown a little fondness to Ife.
All nibbling and sipping and talking at the same time.
ad break

I'm off to bed now ....'night brisket!

Goodnight ~hoochie~   and many thanks      Good stuff.

They are still milling around with the food and drink.
Toast seems to be popular.
Dave is now outof the DRoom.
Sound Dip      Dave and JJ on sofas.  Nathan and Josie enter.

Mario joins those at the sofa and massages  neack and sholders.
Shabby. Caoimhe on kitchen. Govan and Ife at smoking area.
Sound back. 

Nathan sounds very nasal and doesn't look well.
He goes to DRoom.
Sofas. Josie, JJ, Shabby, Dave.
Sound dip (again) - quite extended tonight.
Sound up
Nathan comes out of DRoom. He says BB advised him if he feels no better in the morning they will arrange for him to see a doctor.
Bedroom. Lights out. Shabby and Caoimhe are settling into bed.
Sofas. Govan (wearing shorts), Josie, JJ (not wearing his ripped jeans, Nathan.
Nathan says (in spite of feeling ill) he is not stopping smoking.
Back to bedroom and further sound dips (lots of them tonight.)

Josie laying on sofa on her belly whilst eating.
JJ passes and fondles her head.
Nathan goes into bedroom coughing and spluttering.
Cut to sofas where Josie is lying on her tummy, flipping her lower legs up and down and sucking her thumb.  (Baby-like - description)
She enters bedroom very loudly (as usual)  and shouts "f*** off".
Shot of JJ and Mario in bed.

Hi brisket! I thought you were going to ease off on your LUTing. Tsk!  

While the SDs are on, give yourself a rest! I've noticed it a lot too tonight. Maybe their storyline with Shabby and her cohorts is wearing a bit thin with viewers on HLs and more folk are watching LF so C4 need to keep more back for HLs to satisfy the companies who bought advertising on them! How ironic!  I'm still none the wiser about what happened tonight though. 

I'm hoping for your sake that now they're on basic rations they will be too exhausted to stay up all night for the next week!

Smoking. Govan and Ife.
Govan breaks wind.
They try to imagine what some of the BB voices would look like (TOT, Marcus Bentley, various BBs).
Now Shabby and Caoimhe have got out of bed and join them. Ife yawns.
Govan says he is normally very polite, but "treat me badly and......y'know..."
Ife says her throat is dying and wishes she could stop smoking. They return to house.

The kitchen reveals  unwashed pots and pans.
Bathroom. Vigorous teeth cleaning from Caoimhe, Ife and Govan.
Shabby gets out of bed and joins Govan and Ife in bathroom.
Shabby:"Everything that goes on involves me."
Ife, who said she was extremely tired, still hanging around.
They say goodnight.
Shabby says Ife won't be spaking to her in the morning. Ife asks why.
Shabby mimes something and asks Ife to remind the others - with her hands.
(I don't know what this is about.)
Than Shabby does some attention-seeking camera time sliding up and down in the kitchen.
She then goes for a smoke alone.
She looks furtively left and right several times. She also checks the cameras.

At 1.50 a.m. BB plays a loud cockerell noise into the bedroom and turns on all the lights.
So everyone is awake now.
The alarm stops after a couple of minutesand everyone returns to bed. But talking at normal volume.

Thanks hoochie.  So I heard correctly. BB did say that they`d won.They`re only assuming that they didn`t. What that does is give Shabby and Govan a let off for losing the shopping budget.


Nite hoochie  Great LUTing..thanks.

Just want to say  huge thank you to you LUTters....You're stars and all your hard work is very much appreciated.

Hi Xochi.     Yes I do intend to cut down on the overnight LUTs.  I do. I do.
I won't do Friday and after that we'll see....
I agree about the sound dips and saving material for HLs.
The staying up is a dilemma. If you are an awake viewer you like to have some activity.
But when LUTing  the activity can seem rather extended.
I do prefer it when they are not up all night.
Xochi - it is evident that you pay good attention both to the programme and the posting on here.  It's always nice to have your company.  Your interraction on here is very much appreciated. 

Thanks  Scotty,  ~Lee~, erinp  and Xochi and ~hoochie~ earlier.

It looks like that's it for the night.

Nite

Nite brisket and all LUTers today. 

Special thanks to erinp just now! That post made it all make a lot more sense... sort of!

Morning all and many thanks to hoochie Scotty and brisket for getting   last nights stuff..

I watched it all but to be honest was too tired to LUT it as well and I was trying to eat my dinner too..

and later I was sooo fed up of it I wouldn't have been able to LUT it properly anyway.. 

My quick take on it all ..  this started around 9pm and went on for 4 or more hours..

They won the task , tho that bit is debatable as it took them more than two hours to make the Lego key which didn't even fit the safe it was meant to open, but then they were punished for two sets of nom talk well one with code talk and one with nom talk..  and are on Basic rations now

Sunshine discovered Ben nominated her in the first week. .

then they [all HM's]  went on to talk about why BB said they had  been punished. and how unfair it was and  including more nom talk in all the discussions. .

Sunshine was upset at Ben for Betraying her as she had thought they were friends..

JJ was annoyed at Ben for nominating his friend after banging on to him constantly  about being loyal to your friends..

Ben explained the pecking order of his friends in the first week had Sunshine about 6th in his list 

Jj tried to tell him  there were 7 others lower in the order of friends he could have chosen from yet he didn't  [in a way that wouldn't break the no nom talk rules] but Ben couldn't understand him or wouldn't, am not sure which..

Ben talked more nom talk saying well he didn't nom her this week  [they lost their hot water for this as Bb called him in to tell him off]

Ben tried to get out of his betrayal by apologising for about 4 hrs and ending every I am sorry with a BUT thereby making each Sorry null and void..

Mario crawled right up  Ben's ass and  was cringeworthy in his defence  even tho Ben did admit he did wrong

Shabby and co were basically just Shabby and co. and over hamming it all..

Sunshine told Ben very articulately that she felt betrayed as did JJ.. but not so articulately

Mario kept saying I need to make this right how can I get Ben Jj and Sunshine to be freinds again..  [hmmmmmm  by taking your nose out of it and letting them sort it themselves if they choose to]

Nathan had a snotty nose and was in bed.  he contributed by telling them [well Ben mid yet another Monologue]  to shurrup talking about it and let it rest..  ffs!!

Dave loved everybody and also talked noms...

Ben finally shut up and Mario crawled back out of his ass and went to bed

the cockerel had the final word and woke everybody up..  and me too..

*lobs throat pastels in to Ben as he must surely have a sore throat from non stop talking..   *

yeah I know that  ^^^  all probably sounds a bit [or maybe more than a bit ]  biased but nothing peeves me more than a petulant child saying sorry but then trying to justify the actions they are saying sorry for.... and then  trying to tell others it was all their fault really  not his!  and add to the mix some idiot with Rose tinted spectacles on who can't see the object of their desire doing any wrong, tis maddening ..  plus you listen to a monologue  for 4 hours and not be a bit fed up..

But today is another day


not much going on. .Sunshine is in the garden doing stretches..

think Corin is up as well and starting ehr two to three hour make up routine

The rest are in bed as the alarm hasn't gone off yet..

Alarm goes..  sleepy heads appear above duvet covers..

 morning Olly - gosh you're good!! 


Spot on with your assessment of last night's goings on. 


I just wanted to scream SHUT UP! at Ben

in the kitchen Mario chats to Ife and tells her he tried so hard to stop Ben acting like a Lemming last night and trying to stop him throwing himself off the cliff..

ife is going to have a glass of hot milk. .[ vomits] Mario has some toast

Shabby come sin and gets some mil

Ife is on about cleaning

Sabby talking abotu a freind who cleans a lot and is anal about it

Ife says is that what you are calling me?  wish there was another word for it, Anal sounds horrible [Ife has stated she has a bit of OCD about cleaning/cleanliness]

Mario suggests concerned in place of anal..

I did scream it  and also to Mario too.. in fact anybody walking down my road would have heard shurrup shurrup shurrup constantly coming thru my windows.. 

I am not that good was just my personal take on it all..

and Morning to you too

I forgot to add that last night when they found they were on basic rations and why and it started kicking off

Steve called a meeting to try and nip any repercussions in the bud and discuss how they were going to deal with the basic ration thing.. he said something about the place working as a team I think. .it has escaped me now..

Shabby was not impressed with what he was saying and got  a stroppy tantrum

she did make a point to her friends, not the group tho, that she had overheard loads of people talking in code or nom talk during the week [Dave being the main culprit]  and why did BB single out her and Govan's chat and the bathroom chat where told them all about her chat with Ben. .  which caused JJ to say the immortal well that would/could have changed noms if people had know that.. she made a fair point.. .loads of them, well her  and Ben's groups  are always talking nom talk in some form or other..  and Govan too..

there isn't much going on . .

they are dotted about the garden discussing their experience of the cold shower ..

Corin is upset the sun is not as strong today..

there are loads of SD's cos the HM's tend to sing a lot when they are in the garden

Jj and possibly Sunshine are steering clear of Ben today..

Jj is not going to be nasty or anything as it could be Ben's last few days he just wants to stay clear for a while..

Shabby is irritated with everybody except Caoimhe..

think tis cos she doesn't want to take a cold shower..

Mario's 'lemming ' analogy is spot on. Ben seems to have his finger firmly on the self -destruct button!

still nowt going on. .Bb has locked them in the garden..

Jj says to Sunshine I bet you can't go all day without singing

sunshine says she can..

so much for the group agreement to do a silent protest all day today...  [another thing I forgot about from last night]

Achilles   Jj is ribbing on Sunshine for changing her name and not going the whole hog and doing it legally.  [you don't have to do it legally you just have to make a written statement of a name change afaik ]

Sunshine says she was due to go on holiday when she decided to change her name and wouldn't have had time to change her passport

Jj keeps calling her by her real name and she is not impressed...

Sunshine explains that she wants to graduate and work under her professional name but amongst her friends she wants to be called  Sunshine

jj says well that si just a nickname then..

shabby pipes up about the name change thigny too as she has done it as well..

Jj says I will call you sunshine if you agree to call me Oh Great One.

they shake on it.. with smiling faces..

Heya Kimota

am just off to do my front garden while tis quiet in there..

back later

oh dear they really do not learn do they?

In the kitchen Dave is talking to Shabby and Ife about why he and JJ and sunshine were upset at Ben last night

he says that Ben had stated Sunshine was 6th in his list of friends  yet he nomm'd her even tho there were 8 others he could have picked form [no 7 cos he can't vote for himself]

Shabby  agrees and says well by that time I knew for definite who I WOULD NOT nom and it is still the same  people now

Dave explains Ben explanation about Sunshine being a bit of a pain etc.. 

Shabby says but if I had a kinda valid reason I would still think that if my friend went and saw the noms they wouldn't know what it was properly  until I could explain to them

Ife says me too . .I knew who I wouldn't nom and I haven't done that.. 

For supposedly intelligent HM's this year  they are incredibly DIM

[prediction . .BB will punish them further and Ben losing them the hot water will also come out. .cue hours and hours  of  blah blah's ]

BB should go back to banning people from nominating, if they discuss nominations!

for the LUTters. (I drank the Pimms )

am only half listening but Jj and Ben talking

Ben says he was interested in the psychology of BB re the feelings of people pre, during and after BB..

he doesn't get upset over the same things as others would do like food etc..

and I can;t carry on cos I must do the garden before the suns moves around to the front..  EDIT:  and I lied cos I obviously did carry on but I msut go do the garden now tho

Ben explains everybody loses out at some point with food but gain at others.. so it evens out

Jj say I get where you are coming from but you are the least considerate of the house and the amount you have had means you come out on top  and it is not evened out..

Ben says but people get more beans etc. .

Jj says but that is at group meal times when people are getting stuff dished otu and take what they want portion wise. .

he is talking about what Ben takes at non group meals times. .the egg the onions Ife's toast.. says in an ideal world you can take what you want..  but in here we have to have some eveness and the others are uispet that you don't have the cosnderation to take a bit less so the others can have a share too

Jj thinks it is genuinely funny.. and accepts it's the way Ben was brought up..

Jj explains that, with Ben's ways of thinking, when BB finally gave  them some food last night JJ's way was to go and tell everybody that there was food and Bens way, as he had  explained how the thinks on the subject, would be to just take what he needed/wanted and not go and tell the others there was food... not in a malicious way but in a wouldn't occur to him to do it way..  .

 Ben not disagreeing with this as he has already said at Boarding school if food arrived you got in there and took what you wanted before everybody else wolfed  it down

bad Blizzie. . 

bend over, a  Jonty spanking is coming up

Effy moaning to Corin about the amount of washing up she has done and yet there is still more arriving in the kitchen
Chick peas for lunch, Steve doesn't look to happy about this and says he's thinking of going into the DR as he needs more food than this to carry his body about
JJ still winding Sunshine up, looks like we may have a BB romance after all
Effy in the pool (first time i've seen anyone in there), Scabby tangles her feet in

Looks like Effy is using the pool as a bath as they said earlier the water was warm in there  don't think BB will be impressed with this
JJ Ben and Steve talking about climbing over the wall, Ben wants to know if you would be able to get down the other side *i could just imagine Ben doing this*  JJ seems to know alot about BB to say he doesn't live here