18.47

As conversation has dawdled along... some HMs in garden discussing food and the theft thereof.

In the bedroom JJ has now targeted his next victim, Josie!  

She calmly bats his abuse off which of course infuriates him even more! Eventually he storms off to the DR. Josie is clearly angry but just does a lot of rolly eye action atm. She goes to bathroom and tells the bathroom babes about what he's up to. She tells them she's not going to let him bring her to tears like he did to Rachael... "He can dish it out but he can't take it!"

Ooops, sorry emplula!  

I saw it had gone quiet and thought this episode needed a bit of coverage!

Good work there guys 

my brain has shut down for the day so can't do much to help..

smoking area

Shabby was annoyed that Dave's view on Same sex marriages was being allowed to be aired from the house and as there is problems with it out there already they don;t need it coming form a place that may influence young or other people watching

Dave was talking about it again in front of Mario yesterday apparently.. 

[don't agree with Dave's views but do agree with freedom of speech and am against people trying to censor it if it is not what they want to hear . .bad form IMO  ]


JJ gone to DR again as his temper rises..


and offksi again

Bye Olly!

Govan has asked JJ what they were arguing about to make him so mad... JJ just rants about how she won't stop having a go at him... but quietly mentions he called her fat!  

(I think he needs a new woman to nominate tomorrow and as his tactics worked so well on Rachael he thinks he has found a winning formula!  

oooooooooooh  Jj is  crying.. .

he doesn't understand why Josie kept on ribbing him when he'd asked her to stop.. cos he felt himself snapping...

to be fair Jpsie is a bit oblivious to anything really.. 


and JJ is a hot headed idiot..

Mario says it;s just liek Brother and Sister having a spat

the boys tell him to take a moment and then come back and join in

Corin asks if he wants a milky coffee.. .Corins cure all is a milky coffee

has it been mentioned that the bathrooms target for Noms tomorrow is Ben cos of his greedy habit of eating anything in sight. .there were some sharp exchanges with him in the kitchen a few minutes ago  as they were eating and Ben came for more nibbles..

shame they didn't witness what I did earlier which was Josie hoovering up a good few things including Sunshine's Vegan food earlier too . .or maybe they did and choose to be blind to that for now

there are a few little piggy's in the house but only one being targetted by the bathroom crew for tomorrow

I actually think JJ is really sorry about the spat. .it got a bit out of had and he had a headache and snapped and Joise didn't stop either. .

and they are going to sort it out later..

off they trot to the garden... 

I'm not really here

Thanks Xochi! I could see the drama developing but have got dinner cooking so can't do any typing - great that you & Olly stepped in 
Sooo.. JJ is being given a dose of his own medicine by Josie!   It was Josie who apparently was going on & on and in the end he hit back with a " well you're fat" comment.
Frankly, I'm not surprised Josie lost it- Go Josie!! 

Right, I'm off to have some food, laters 

I haven't seen any LF today, so it's great to come in here and catch up on everything.
Thank you Lutters.

heya  Yogi and Emplula 

JJ is crying a lot after Josie went into the bedroom and told him off for being a silly sod for packing just because they had a spat..


John still insists it was her fault that set him off but then just collapses in teas and Josie comforts him and says she feels really bad...

[methinks he actually is really upset he's had a row with Josie cos maybe he likes her more than a friend. or it could be as all the girls said. .he's missing his mummy. .their comments not mine ]

she vows to shurrup next time he has a headache

John says he feels bad cos she made him snap...  cos she kept going on and on

Josie says well I know now don;t i. .and laughs when John says he actually does have a hanky...

they are making it up now..

John just wants to have a good time

(bet his tantrum gets shown on HL show and Shabby's all day one was missed out cos that wasn't BB worthy   )

Josie says stop making me feel bad now... lets push this under the carpet and carry on

John but you pushed it I feel bad about what I said and the girls faces etc

Josie trying to get him to stop going on about it and she hasn't come in for another row

Neither has John..


he said it was because it was you. .and cos I had a headache I just SD. .if it was one of the others I wouldn't have...  SD

there are laughs in this exchange but a lot of SD too. .

Josie knows to stop when someone asks now..  they giggle over this,,,

John doesn;t want to be in there for the wrong reasons. .. not like Rachael who was there for the deals.. . he just wants to be there.. for SD so I am none the wiser..

Josie just wants to have a good time

she asks him why he is there

he says to have a good time . .not the money none of that just to have fun.. the longer you stay the more fun you get to have tho..

there is a lot of snotty nose sniffing thru this convo . .ewwwwwww

looks like it is sorted now... more or less..

am off to watch CDWM...  and I am still not here

John was upset I think  cos Josie said she never wants to speak to him again

Josie clarifies and says I don;t want to speak to THAT guy but I will speak to the Nice John..

Josie tells him to have a little sleep

BB told him to go tot he nest and sleep it off.  not the bedroom

tis what Josie does...

there is other bitching going on elsewhere but I missed that tho did spot Govan animatedly nodding his head in his bitching frenzy

Govan joins them in the bedroom and Josie jokes they are having an amicable divorce

am definitely not here at all now 

Good luck night shift

Noms tomorrow... loads of stroking the others to not nom or hinting who to nom tonight I think

yes I know I am not here    but have finally worked out what John said that got to Josie and made all the others go

Seem,s from a chat he was having with Govan, she has bad breath and he said it to her face. ..

makes sense of a convo earlier in the garden, before Josie went in to talk to him and Jj had come out of the DR all tearful and gone to pack in the Bedroom,  the full bitching crew said we should all go press our faces to the bedroom window and pretend to be brushing our teeth..

C4 have edited all of the Bad Breath stuff otu from their news page and the convo's thereafter but they forgot to do it with the Govan adn John one just then..

Meanwhile in the Nest Ben and Mario discuss nominations  who they like and dislike.. think govan is one of their targets

and gorn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Thank you all you wonderful LUTers, it's a must read every day  

Yogi and Dame Ann, you're welcome! 

Cheers Olly for stepping in, I hope you're having a chilled out evening 

I'm watching the HL show, I'll do a bit more LUTting after..

22:00

Hm’s haven’t eaten properly all day. They’ve been waiting for the party in the hope that there’ll be food.

BB has told them that party will happen ‘in due course’

Shabby & Caoimhe are lying in bed mucking about with their mike packs pretending to phone each other & doing sound checks. Camera seems to be stuck on them

Rest of HM’s chatter in the backgr ; I think they might be locked in but can’t tell for sure..

Josie and JJ are back in bed together Govan also with them- everything seems to be back to normal altho there is occasional close-up of JJ looking a bit thoughtful

Back to Caoimhe & Shabby – Shabby getting a hand massage, camera is going nowhere..

Hand massage finished – Caoimhe only did the one hand. Shabby sighs and says thanks. They both close their eyes…

JJ is out of bed. He’s wearing Josies woolly hat. Josie thinks he looks funny. He’s pulled it right down on his head – Josie worries that he’ll stretch it. JJ asks if that’s the way to wear it. Lots of giggling from Josie. SD

Govan & Josie & Corin talking about caravan holidays. Corin recounting how her granny used to fall asleep reading the bible & something else about soggy crisps& camp-sites.

Govan talking about his cousin getting attacked by geese. There were loads of them.. they dissolve into fits of giggles. Jj is back on the bed rummaging thru Josie’s make-up bag. Josie asks if he is alright, he says yeah

Corin has decided that there is not going to be a party tonight. Josie agrees. She lists all the things that went wrong with the task

BB has announced the house is now open. Party food has been laid out in the kitchen and HM’s sit down in a rather subdued fashion and start eating straight away.

Mario “this is what we’ve been waiting for all day”

Lots of hmmms as they get stuck in

SD – music is being played into the house. (I wonder if it’s nursery rhymes or kiddy songs)

I’m trying to figure out what type of music from the way they’re dancing but camera is focusing on sunshine’s disjointed moves so hard to tell 

Sunshine is really going for it now.. Mario has joined her – he is being a bit more sedate with just his shoulders moving up and down (in some angles Sunshine has a GaGa-esque look to her)

Why isn’t she eating?? The rest are busy munching away, no-one else got up to dance.

Aha! Sunshine just said she absolutely loves Lady G, she put 4 of her songs on her list – I’m guessing it was a lady gaga song.

JJ asking if sunshine also practises Gaga moves. She says no, that was just her dancing.. She wonders if JJ might be jealous of her dance moves maybe? JJ laughs

 

Shabs Caoimhe and Ife are outside having a fag

Rest of hm’s still eating at table

They are discussing what they could do for Steve’s birthday which is coming up. Corin suggests a cooked breakfast in bed

Dave saying just don’t mention the k word (as in kids)

Carousel

Nathan has joined the trio for a smoke. They go over the fiasco that was the task and all the rule breaking that went on

Ife says there’s at least 3 dramas going on everyday. Shabby reckons she has at least one dram a day

Talk moves on to bowel movements –tmi

Shot of Ben still at table, munching. Josie sucking her thumb. Steve and dave still talking about whether bb will allow them to get a card or something from their kids

Bedrm

Ife and JJ and Mario chatting. Ife wants to know why they got a treat when they obviously failed the task. Mario saying if they had known they should have cooked a proper meal then had the party stuff for afters. Ife disappointed they didn’t play any teddy bear songs

Josie comes in and tells them about friend she has who travels round the world skateboarding. She says she’s going to be bouncing off the walls in a minute what with all the sweets. Ben & Govan come into bedroom Govan complains he has eaten too much. Josies got the wire head massager and is using it on Govan.

Josie saying she used to be called the Saga queen but lots of sd

Cut to kitchen, clearing up in progress. Corin Dave and Steve washing up
Steve says he's lost so much weight he'll be needing a new suction thingy for his leg as it's falling off. 

Bedroom

JJ and Mario say they are ready for an early night. Ben wonders whether they can get away with turning the lights off soon.

Mario complaining about the party – sandwiches and crisps were not substantial enough. They say at least Steve enjoyed it. Ben tells them steve reminds him of a suaddie he knew from his tory days then sd

Ben leaves bedroom JJ lying in bed with his eyes closed

Carousel

Govan Josie Nathan laughing at Corin’s knock knock jokes

Ife and Caoimhe joins them. They too were not impressed with their food.

Corin telling them about when she was clearing up Ben came up and offered to take the plates from her. she thought he was going help with the clearing up but all he did was take them from her and put them on the side then walked out. They all laugh and Nathan says “yeah, he does that”

Bedrm

Mario thinks dynamics have changed a lot since Rach left but Ben thinks not. Mario has noticed that Steve has come out of his shell a lot more in past couple of days

Talk turns to nomination day tomorrow, JJ wants to know whether they find it hard to talk to the peeps they’ve nommed when they come out of DR. Mario says it makes him want to get to know them more almost to prove himself wrong about them.

Dave jumps on the bed and give JJ a big hug

Carousel

Shabby skipping back to smokers - she has just come out of DR where she says she asked BB why they were being nice to them with the party. She is suspicious of bb’s motives

Corin is shocked that mario’s ex bought him a car when they were together. She wants to know if he is single –laughter.

Sd then Corin “I bet you kept all the good stuff”

She just can’t believe that people get bought Audi’s by their lovers. Mario saying he gave it back when they split up. He didn’t want to be regarded as someone who goes out with people for gifts.

Kitchen

Shabby and Caoimhe decide to play a sucking game with lumps of jelly. They sit facing each other at table with hands behind their backs and suck at the jelly, giggling while the camera zooms up REAL close. Caoimhe does hers quite quickly but Shabby is really going to town with all the licking and schlurping sounds much to Caoimhe amusement.

I popped off for 10 mins and come back to them having music being played into the house again

Sunshine and Corin going for it. Ife wearing sunglasses &  Josie wearing big glasses a white coat and a black wig.

JJ Ben  having a convo in bedroom about Ben taking an extra towel ben says he’s always been known to buck the system

JJ says he doesn’t come across like some-one who would

Ben wants to know what someone who would take an extra towel looks like SD

Cut to living rm with Mario Sunshine Shabby Josie  Govan all manically dancing

MONDAY 21ST JUNE

Hi emplula. I'll be here when live broadcast starts.

00:00
Hey Brisket!!  

Shabby and Caoimhe in Nest boo-ing anyone who sticks their head round

Shabby saying she is BORED

Bedrm

Josie dressed up like a cross between a hippy and a nerd with her glasses and white coat and wig.  She’s making funny faces amusing the boys

Dave suggests they go in the hut. There are not many takers. Ben thinks it’s a bit cold. Dave urging him to just put his trousers on. Ben saying he is sleep deprived, he’s starting to look ratty. Mario gives him a random pair of trousers to wear, Ben refuses, he doesn’t know whose they are. He puts on another pair that Mario gives him, he’s being a bit whiny and he leaves bedrm with Mario, muttering something about someone having a massive go at him earlier.. couldn’t catch who he was talking about.

Closet

Govan getting fake goatee drawn on by Nathan. He is dressed up as old man in flat cap and big specs to complement Josie’s look. They both have the red spotty table cloth from party wrapped around them. They are walking around looking comical

Nest

Shabby talking to Ife and Caoimhe about her high sex drive and that she also needs the companionship

Cut to batroom

Govan and Josie fooling around. Govan going on about how someone is always bitching (don’t know who)

Sofas

Dave Ben Sunshine Steve Mario in middle of convo.  Dave trying to say ‘platonic’ but it comes out as ‘plutonic’

Josie getting paranoid in bathroom with Govan – she thinks the sofa lot were whispering about them.

JJ comes in all pissed off – how can she think that he was bitching about them. Josie overheard the tail end of a convo and got the wrong end of the stick. .

JJ is getting frustrated cos all he was doing was looking at Govan & Josie as they walked past in their ridiculous get-up as JJ was listening to convo and all they caught was “I’m glad I know that now”

Now they have moved on to an earlier incident regarding a sausage roll, I don’t know about

Govan says that the only people he’s friends with from the sofa is JJ. Govan reckons there are people who are trying to capitalise on the fact that JJ is feeling vulnerable today

JJ says they were ragging on Shabby & it was nothing to do with Govan & Josie. JJ is getting riled up – Govan telling him to calm down.

Josie saying she thinks they have blown everything out of proportion. JJ says he came into the bathroom to make sure they hadn’t got the wrong end of the stick – he wants them to trust him.

Govan tells JJ it just looked shifty from where they were sitting

Josie looks at JJ and warns him that he is on his last chance with her and if he goes off on her again that will be it.

JJ thinks she is joking “you being serious?” She says yes, she is telling him that if he ever fires up at him again that’ll be it.
Govan leaves the bathroom & I think he is whispering off camera to someone
JJ is finding it hard to accept that Josie is giving him a warning. Josie tells him he never really apologised when it all kicked off before.
JJ apologises, but says he doesn't understand why Josie would think that he likes pissing girls off.
He asks her if she still wants to be friends. she says yeah, but if you kick off at me again...
Mario walks in asks if they are ok
Josie tell Mario about her bout of paranoia. Mario reckons Govan is pissed off with him too
Govan at carousel relaying bathroom convo

Shabby has now come in bathroom she wants to know what being said about her.
Caoimhe says it's something Ben said. Ife now joins them. Shabby is shocked.
(i am not sure what the incident they are all referring to is about)
Shabby saying she despises ben. She would prefer it if he stayed well away from her. 


 

OK,  got it
Ben reported back to JJ that Shabby was pleased and was rubbing her hands when all the drama was kicking off earlier

Shabby confronting Ben, she tell him that they have always rubbed each other the wrong way. She has a mini-rant at him

Ben is apologising and said that there were other people involved. She walks off disgusted

Caoimhe comes to Shabby’s defence and tells Ben that Shabby has done nothing wrong. Ben is annoyed and says now JJ has betrayed him

Josie comes forward saying it’s all her fault- it was her paranoia that started all this. She can't believe all this has happened. She said she's had the worst day so far in here today
Ben says he should have gone to bed earlier.
Josie trying to explain to Govan that they are going to be looked on as the trouble makers since Govan rushed straight out to Shabby and blabbed.
Govan said he only went for a ciggie and they asked him why he looked like thunder and he wasn't going to lie 

Govan doing his wide-eyed innocent look (over-doing it actually).

Josie admits to unjust paranoia.

Mario thinks it is a misinterpreted comment.

But Govan doesn't like that - he wants to keep the drama running
Mario is obviously uncomfortable about all of this.
.

It would seem that there is an attempt to use something trivial to stir up trouble for Ben.
Mario facing some of the flack as well now, simply because he is an ally of Ben.
Caoimhe, Shabby, and Govan all with intense dislike of Ben.
Bathroom. JJ is now riled up.
Ben says he now has "all of that gang" against him (Ben) simply because he told JJ a bit of information to protect him.

Emotions are high. Anger in the air.

JJ is fiery. Ben is upset but calm. Steve is quiet.

The discussion is raging from the sofas to the carousel.

Shabby has just gone off again at ben. She is now at carousel with Ife and ife trying to calm her down telling her it’s noms tomorrow and Ben is cleverly pushing her buttons.

Shabby wants to know why Ben wants her out so much.

Ife saying don’t rise to the bait

Bathrm

JJ is riled up explaining to Ben his part in the argument. He can’t believe Govan went running to Shabby.

Ben feeling betrayed – he feels like walking out himself now cos all of the other group are now against him. He told JJ something in confidence & now JJ has told Govan

Steve is also in bathrm listening quietly

JJ still ranting –it’s hard knowing who to trust etc etc.. He is convinced people playing a game in the house. JJ says he doesn’t want to be a part of a clan

Ben is calm and he is trying to getJJ to lower his voice. JJ tells Ben that in future Ben shouldn't tell him crap about the people he doesn't like and then he won't be able to tell anyone. ben should confront the people he doesn't get on with himself etc etc..
Ben wants to go and pack his stuff

E4 live coverage has started so I'm signing off, got an early start tomorrow so I'll leave them to it.
Dave is trying to get Ben to go and talk to Shabby to try and sort things out. Ben wants a witness..

oh god... poor Ben - being convinced to be thrown into the lions den..... all we're getting out of JJ is fack this and fack that.... hope we have got LOTS of luters for overnight cos I gotta go soon - hope I dont miss a punch-up or a walk-out

where is Sunshine in all of this... I thought she would be standing by her man Ben (she wants to marry him) - maybe she's allergic to arguments?

Bathroom.
JJ angry and hot-headed. Steve quiet. Mario arrives concerned.
Mario suggests damage limitation and going to sleep.
Steve suggests going to speak to Shabby and sorting it out.
Ben reminds him that Shabby doesn't like him and that is unlikely to work.
Mario tries to support Ben. He touches him for comfort.
Ben now seriously considers going to talk to Shabby.
The others want him to go along, but Ben would like somebody else there as witness.
JJ has blabbed something to Govan which is now trying to say he regrets - in spite of being cautioned about Govan by Ben and Mario JJ still decided to blab.
JJ says it is 100% his fault. He says he f*****d up. It is all his fault.



JJ (many many F words).
JJ is frustrated, and with every word he says it gets more confusing.
He admits he made a mistake.. He thought he was doing the right thing in telling Govan.
But now he knows it was a mistake to tell Govan.
JJ is being utterly unreasonable. JJ thinks Ben (or anyone else) should not speak to people if they don't like them.
He has a very immature view of things. "Just sort it out" he says. The same chap who
couldn't do it with Rachael.

Smoaking area. Steve is with Shabby and Caoimhe.
Shabby is livid. Hates Ben. They go to sofas.
Govan says "Grown men - and two of them are in there." (as if Govan had no part in it.)
Josie smiling with them.
Ben is highly targetted.
While JJ has admitted he played a major part in the situation arising.
(Didn't some people feel anxious about his bonding with Govan?)

Brisket, this is an alcohol-free argument   

*waves to Barmy Brummie* Hiya, yeah, it's all gorn pear-shaped - we love it! 
EDIT:
I am impressed at the way Ben can be in the middle of a blazing row and still not raise his voice or get visibly agitated..That's gotta be a talent 

cooooeeeeeeeeee y'all - looks like its all Govan's fault but then JJ shouldnt have run off and grassed in the first place... notice Nathan loafing around taking it all in.....  still wondering where Sunshine-Mrs-Ben-2-be is in all of this.... allergic to being up late??? What about Corin eh eh innit - where's Corin... its not like they can be asleep

They move to sofa area.
Ben asks to speak to Shabby.
Shabby doesn't want to speak to him. "I don't want to hear."
(So how does it get resolved if Shabby will not communicate?)

Ben summarising the situation says he felt awkward at times. Shabby says she didn't.
Josie says she doesn't want to be involved (even though she was a part of it setting off earlier.)
Shabby says to Ben "You are not JJs friend. You are not his friend."
Shabby sulks and has a disinterested look on her face.
Ben says it was a throwaway comment.
Shabby says it was not. It had intent.
Shabby says he (Ben) stored this information in the back of his crafty little mind.
She believes Ben is malicious.
Ben has his arm on Mario's shoulder. Mario's arm is round Ben's back.
Shabby says Ben has bitching sessions. (Unlike Shabby of course.)
Ben asks why she is so rude.
"Because I don't like you Ben " spits Shabby.

Shabby flounces out.
Nathan says Shabby doesn't want to listen. She is not bothered.


Marios looks very concerned and continues to support Ben.
So somehousemates advise Ben to sort it out and talk to Shabby, while others (Nathan) point out that she doesn't want to talk.

Thanks emplula    You're right and I've edited.

It is very difficult to keep up the pace on this. I'm trying not to miss vital points.
Smoking area.
Shabby:"God he's a f***** knob".
Caoimhe says they are all rooting for Shabby in the house.
Shabby is now threatening.  "He needs to keep out of my way."
Nathan joins them.
Ife says she never gets a straight answer from Ben. (Ife and straight answers lol)

Bedroom.Lights off.Mario givng hugs, kind words and obvious support to Ben.
They discuss JJ. Dave says JJ thinks Govan is a friend.


Smoking area. Lots of abuse for Ben from Caoimhe, Shabby, Ife, who now resorts to mocking Ben on a class basis.



Bedroom.  Mario reminds Ben that even if he is up for public vote, it is the public who decide and not the people in the house. Dave also offers words of support.

(There is a clear divide.)

Shabby and Caoimhe still calling Ben names.

There seems to be no desire whatsoever on Shabby's part to try to sort anything.

She (rather stubbornly) is not interested in resolving anything.
Sofas. 
JJ, Nathan (fondling his genitals), Govan, Josie, Shabby, Caoimhe, Ife.  Supporting each other in their combined opposition.
Bedroom. Lights out. Mario continues to support Ben. Steve too has spoken to Ben in a reassuring tone.

pokes nose in to comment

brisket, I don't know how you're managing to make any sense of tonight at all! But you are! Makes last night look like a breeze by comparison!  Give yourself a bit of a break and go back to the threads and get some of this off your chest... 

@brisket It's hard to believe all this has kicked off without alcoholic aid  it must be all the E numbers and lack of food tonight. It's funny that earlier in the day most of the hm's were worrying that they wouldn't be able to nom cos they were starting to all get on, and then this kicks off. I wonder where Govan is at the moment. It's funny how he scuttles about sneakily stirring & then vanishes when the poo hits the fan 
@barmy brummie It's a shame Corin is fast a-kip - I'm sure she would have knocked both their heads togethr and told them to "pack it in you lot, lets have some fun!" 
As for Sunshine, all I can say is thank gawwd she's asleep...

..which is where I've got to be right now - Good night all!

Mario tells Ben "I shan't abandon you. I don't care what anyone....")
Mario has been calmly and empathically warm and comforting to Ben.


Sofas.
Dave and Mario are standing there listening to Shabby.
Shabby doesn't want him to have anything to do with her.
Shabby:"I feel perfectly comfortable about my time in the house thus far. He doesn't. He must know he's done something wrong."
Shabby now advises Mario to back off "standing right beside him and ...."
She wants Mario to take a step back.  (Well she would wouldn't she? Despots do.- opinion)
She is trying to influence someone to desert his friend.


Kitchen. Caoimhe, Shabby, Govan, Ife, Mario in kitchen.
Caoimhe telling Mario that Ben doesn't need Mario's support.
Shabby thinks Ben will drag Mario down with him.

Shabby "I've said what I wanted to say to him. I don't like you - full stop - the end".)


Dave and JJ on sofa talking about Govan.

Thanks emplula. Goodnight and sleep well.
Xochi - thank you. This is difficult for me. I am angry while trying to be accurate.
Thanks for your words. A big help