Someone look me in the eye (for all you can't) and tell me Freddie isn't smug. God I couldn't believe what I was watching last night! What is he six??
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She had it coming, so way to go Freddy 
why shouldnt freddie be able to dish the shite, Lisa gave him several servings of it in the past, so its only polite that freddie return the hospitality. 
Aw come on! 'I'm staying.' How the hell do you know matey??
quote:Originally posted by shirehorse:
Someone look me in the eye (for all you can't) and tell me Freddie isn't smug. God I couldn't believe what I was watching last night! What is he six??
he's pathetic.
At the beginning of the week I would have been pleased at the prospect of Lisa going, now I really want her to stay just to piss the village idiot Freddy off..........wish he would be thrown out instead, but I can't see it happening....let's hope they kick out Bea instead as a compromise
Fully justified! Freddie has waited a long time for Lisa to face the public vote. He hasn't pushed her in the pool, stabbed her in the back with a kitchen knife or bashed her over the head with a saucepan you know, he is just pleased that she will face the public vote as she made sure he did week after week after week Anything wrong with that?
quote:Originally posted by mozart:
why shouldnt freddie be able to dish the shite, Lisa gave him several servings of it in the past, so its only polite that freddie return the hospitality.
Exactly
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Fully justified! Freddie has waited a long time for Lisa to face the public vote. He hasn't pushed her in the pool, stabbed her in the back with a kitchen knife or bashed her over the head with a saucepan you know, he is just pleased that she will face the public vote as she made sure he did week after week after week Anything wrong with that?
Exactly.
I have never liked him but at least last night he showed he has no class. The fake orgasm noises turned my stomach.His mother must be so proud.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Fully justified! Freddie has waited a long time for Lisa to face the public vote. He hasn't pushed her in the pool, stabbed her in the back with a kitchen knife or bashed her over the head with a saucepan you know, he is just pleased that she will face the public vote as she made sure he did week after week after week Anything wrong with that?
Nothing at all wrong with that squiggle.
Its been coming for a long time.
quote:Originally posted by mozart:
why shouldnt freddie be able to dish the shite, Lisa gave him several servings of it in the past, so its only polite that freddie return the hospitality.
what's his excuse to be so nasty to Dave though? he just trying to impress his non-girlfriend Bea
....he put himself in the same league as Marcus last night, a pouty, stupid man who's being led around by the bollocks by a woman he has no chance of ever having
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Fully justified! Freddie has waited a long time for Lisa to face the public vote. He hasn't pushed her in the pool, stabbed her in the back with a kitchen knife or bashed her over the head with a saucepan you know, he is just pleased that she will face the public vote as she made sure he did week after week after week Anything wrong with that?
Absolutely spot on. I think because it is Freddy, it is giving people another opportunity to blast him.
He has taken enough over the past weeks from Lisa and her gang. About time she was on the receiving end.
quote:'Lisa's up on friday, Lisa's up on friday...'
Good ******* riddance!
quote:She had it coming, so way to go Freddy
after taking the moral high ground for so long and winning the fight that way, Freddie then lost all that completely last night when he sank to the depths of playground mentality. . his behaviour was absolutely appalling. .
for me it doesn't matter how nasty Lisa had been to him, he had dealt with that a long time ago and had come out the better person, it in no way warranted the way he behaved to her last night.. two wrongs do not make a right.. he turned out to be no better than her .. tho I suspected he wasn't an angel for a good while now anyway so am not surprised he proved he wasn't ...
I felt very uncomfortable watching his hounding of her last night and it made me think that he is nothing but a hypocritical twat bearing in mind all the scheming HE has done behind HER back from the beginning and HIS game plan with Marcus to wipe her and other HM's out.. and yes he was the smuggest of the smug with his performance... did himself no favours at all the way he behaved..
Sadly I think Freddie has only served to ensure that the twit Charlie wins the show now
for me it doesn't matter how nasty Lisa had been to him, he had dealt with that a long time ago and had come out the better person, it in no way warranted the way he behaved to her last night.. two wrongs do not make a right.. he turned out to be no better than her .. tho I suspected he wasn't an angel for a good while now anyway so am not surprised he proved he wasn't ...
I felt very uncomfortable watching his hounding of her last night and it made me think that he is nothing but a hypocritical twat bearing in mind all the scheming HE has done behind HER back from the beginning and HIS game plan with Marcus to wipe her and other HM's out.. and yes he was the smuggest of the smug with his performance... did himself no favours at all the way he behaved..
Sadly I think Freddie has only served to ensure that the twit Charlie wins the show now
quote:Originally posted by Mount Olympus:
after taking the moral high ground for so long and winning the fight that way, Freddie then lost all that completely last night when he sank to the depths of playground mentality. . his behaviour was absolutely appalling. .
for me it doesn't matter how nasty Lisa had been to him, he had dealt with that a long time ago and had come out the better person, it in no way warranted the way he behaved to her last night.. two wrongs do not make a right.. he turned out to be no better than her .. tho I suspected he wasn't an angel for a good while now anyway so am not surprised he proved he wasn't ...
I felt very uncomfortable watching his hounding of her last night and it made me think that he is nothing but a hypocritical twat bearing in mind all the scheming HE has done behind HER back from the beginning and HIS game plan with Marcus to wipe her and other HM's out.. and yes he was the smuggest of the smug with his performance... did himself no favours at all the way he behaved..
Sadly I think Freddie has only served to ensure that the twit Charlie wins the show now
He did NOT hound her! He answered her back. What would you like him to have done, slunk off and let her rant and rave?
*agrees wholeheartedly with Lass and throws in a random - meh, meh, meh*quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
She had it coming, so way to go Freddy
quote:Originally posted by Mount Olympus:
after taking the moral high ground for so long and winning the fight that way, Freddie then lost all that completely last night when he sank to the depths of playground mentality. . his behaviour was absolutely appalling. .
for me it doesn't matter how nasty Lisa had been to him, he had dealt with that a long time ago and had come out the better person, it in no way warranted the way he behaved to her last night.. two wrongs do not make a right.. he turned out to be no better than her .. tho I suspected he wasn't an angel for a good while now anyway so am not surprised he proved he wasn't ...
I felt very uncomfortable watching his hounding of her last night and it made me think that he is nothing but a hypocritical twat bearing in mind all the scheming HE has done behind HER back from the beginning and HIS game plan with Marcus to wipe her and other HM's out.. and yes he was the smuggest of the smug with his performance... did himself no favours at all the way he behaved..
Sadly I think Freddie has only served to ensure that the twit Charlie wins the show now
Totally agree, Olly - I've never seen the attraction or appeal of Freddie tbh - until last night he was 'just there, in the house' and all his 'ohh-ing' and 'ahh-ing' began to irritate me to the point I felt embarrassed for him. I never could understand how he could be a contender to win anyhow. Last night however, he really bugged the hell out of me - if Bea goes it'll hit home , maybe - if he goes (which I doubt
) would be even better imo and really rock their minds as to what the public want.he most definitely did. . he followed her around gloating in her face.. then resorted to the playground chant of nah nah nah nah na Lisa's up for eviction... very classy.quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
He did NOT hound her! He answered her back. What would you like him to have done, slunk off and let her rant and rave?
what a nice well bred chappie ..
no different to Lisa IMO
It never ceases to amaze me how differently people see things, even when we are all watching the same footage. Everyone has their own opinion of what took place but I really would like to understand how we can all see it so differently. Anyone got any suggestions???
I think what made it worse for me was that he was the one that started all that row and then gnawed away at it like a dog with a bone... he lost any moral high ground for doing that..quote:Originally posted by gma:
Totally agree, Olly - I've never seen the attraction or appeal of Freddie tbh - until last night he was 'just there, in the house' and all his 'ohh-ing' and 'ahh-ing' began to irritate me to the point I felt embarrassed for him. I never could understand how he could be a contender to win anyhow. Last night however, he really bugged the hell out of me - if Bea goes it'll hit home , maybe - if he goes (which I doubt
I've never seen any of his appeal either... he IS a sleazy little horny man/boy and completely irritating with the ummmming and ahhhing and orgasming all over the place at the slightest thing..
yes he was isolated and treated badly at the beginning but, he won that fight a good few weeks back and should have moved on. . he seemed to be doing that so why he felt the need to try and win it again beggars belief. . to me he lost it again that night..
quote:It never ceases to amaze me how differently people see things, even when we are all watching the same footage. Everyone has their own opinion of what took place but I really would like to understand how we can all see it so differently. Anyone got any suggestions???
You take a pinch of 'class jealousy' add to that a drip, drip of poison day after day and soon you have the right mix. It is a well tried technique and it has worked very well for LISA since the start.
The real difficulty DAVID had last night is that he dosen't really know WHY he dislikes Bea and Marcus - he only does so because he has been drip fed poison over the last few weeks. He even speaks now in LISA's language (same as Sophie) neither of them used the word 'pathetic' until they were fed it by LISA.
It was interesting to watch Rodrigo during the row, I think he realised what Freddie was saying - he may have a different attitude next week???
Gut feelings?quote:Originally posted by joyron:
It never ceases to amaze me how differently people see things, even when we are all watching the same footage. Everyone has their own opinion of what took place but I really would like to understand how we can all see it so differently. Anyone got any suggestions???
My gut feeling last night was oh eck that is not very nice behaviour at all... the way it was done was incredibly childish and prolonged a bit too long... make a point by all means. . make it in a grown up way and then leave it alone when you've made it. . seems a more civilised way to deal with things..
Freddie did none of that IMO
quote:Originally posted by Mount Olympus:Gut feelings?quote:Originally posted by joyron:
It never ceases to amaze me how differently people see things, even when we are all watching the same footage. Everyone has their own opinion of what took place but I really would like to understand how we can all see it so differently. Anyone got any suggestions???
My gut feeling last night was oh eck that is not very nice behaviour at all... the way it was done was incredibly childish and prolonged a bit too long... make a point by all means. . make it in a grown up way and then leave it alone when you've made it. . seems a more civilised way to deal with things..
Freddie did none of that IMO
Both you and Rusticana make valid and interesting points. I do agree with you that Freddie did perhaps go too far but at the same time I have some sympathy with him as he obviously felt the time had come to let all his pent up thoughts and feelings out. Let's just hope things settle down for a while.
Lisa's gone on Friday, Lisa's gone on Friday!! 
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
Something about the sing song way he said it put me in mind of Bart in the simpsons movie; 'Lisa's got a boyfriend, who she'll never see again.' But for me the whole 'the public'll save me' nonsense convinced me.
quote:But for me the whole 'the public'll save me' nonsense convinced me.
He wasn't speculating on the future, he was stating a fact - the public have saved him several times.
quote:Originally posted by rusticana:quote:But for me the whole 'the public'll save me' nonsense convinced me.
He wasn't speculating on the future, he was stating a fact - the public have saved him several times.
Fairplay but it's hardly fact that they'll save him again. It's very likely but after last nights 'nyah, nyah, nyah' performance it's not a fact.
I don't think in the history of BB and I could be wrong, that anybody as ever gloated to someone's face about being up for eviction even if they hated them.
quote:My gut feeling last night was oh eck that is not very nice behaviour at all... the way it was done was incredibly childish and prolonged a bit too long... make a point by all means. . make it in a grown up way and then leave it alone when you've made it. . seems a more civilised way to deal with things..
Freddie did none of that IMO
What I think we are all missing about Freddie's performance last night is this.
Freddie has known since week one that LISA had a gameplan and that she was influencing nominations - as did the majority of the viewers - the thing that has irritated him - and me - is that he could not work out how she did it. Last night he realised how it was done - drip feed poison to isolate two HMs - that was the basis of his euphoria - the realisation of LISA's technique and the fact that he could now counter it.
Oh come on, If he really wanted to upset Lisa he would have sung to her.
quote:Originally posted by shirehorse:
Aw come on! 'I'm staying.' How the hell do you know matey??
I thought it was tongue in cheek.
quote:Originally posted by Gorgeous Mimi:quote:Originally posted by shirehorse:
Aw come on! 'I'm staying.' How the hell do you know matey??
I thought it was tongue in cheek.
It was! What was he supposed to do just stand there and let her rant and rave at him?
I just wish Freddie hadn't acted in the way he did. He hasn't done himself any favours, and I think his outburst will alienate him from the viewers/voters.
He's kept things under control so well until now. Pity it had to be this week for him to want to "get it all out" in the way he did.
He's kept things under control so well until now. Pity it had to be this week for him to want to "get it all out" in the way he did.
The reason he did that was because her and Baby David broke out into huge grins when the results of noms were read out - before they realised they would be up as well.
Serve them right!
Serve them right!
quote:Originally posted by rusticana:quote:My gut feeling last night was oh eck that is not very nice behaviour at all... the way it was done was incredibly childish and prolonged a bit too long... make a point by all means. . make it in a grown up way and then leave it alone when you've made it. . seems a more civilised way to deal with things..
Freddie did none of that IMO
What I think we are all missing about Freddie's performance last night is this.
Freddie has known since week one that LISA had a gameplan and that she was influencing nominations - as did the majority of the viewers - the thing that has irritated him - and me - is that he could not work out how she did it. Last night he realised how it was done - drip feed poison to isolate two HMs - that was the basis of his euphoria - the realisation of LISA's technique and the fact that he could now counter it.
You put that so well Rusticana. I agree with you.
why freddie said the public will save him is because lisa had already told him how cocky he was and he thought he was going to win so he thought he would show her how cocky he could be
good on yer freddie
good on yer freddie
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shirehorse:
Someone look me in the eye (for all you can't) and tell me Freddie isn't smug. God I couldn't believe what I was watching last night! What is he six??[/QUOTE He's WEIRD!!!
Always thought he was a bit odd, now its confirmed he's more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic. 
Someone look me in the eye (for all you can't) and tell me Freddie isn't smug. God I couldn't believe what I was watching last night! What is he six??[/QUOTE He's WEIRD!!!
Always thought he was a bit odd, now its confirmed he's more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic. quote:Originally posted by DanceSettee:quote:Originally posted by shirehorse:
Someone look me in the eye (for all you can't) and tell me Freddie isn't smug. God I couldn't believe what I was watching last night! What is he six??
he's pathetic.
At the beginning of the week I would have been pleased at the prospect of Lisa going, now I really want her to stay just to piss the village idiot Freddy off..........wish he would be thrown out instead, but I can't see it happening....let's hope they kick out Bea instead as a compromise
imagine him for a son!quote:Originally posted by longcat:
I have never liked him but at least last night he showed he has no class. The fake orgasm noises turned my stomach.His mother must be so proud.
