I would think they may be banned from nominating... I think that's what they deserve.
Other then the nasty nick time, the worst that happens for discussing noms is a ban from nominating...
quote:Originally posted by Mollie:
I would think they may be banned from nominating... I think that's what they deserve.
Other then the nasty nick time, the worst that happens for discussing noms is a ban from nominating...
not to the extent they have been doing it! this is not the first time they have done it just the first time its been this obvious! they really should be facing the public vote for it
quote:That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
There's a big difference between threatening to nominate someone in the heat of the moment (or when drunk) and actively taking part in an orchestrated attempt at influencing and agreeing on nominations ... In theory, both are breaking the rules, but the latter should definitely be punishable by putting the culprits up for eviction ...
A couple of points:
Is this the first case of nominations being discussed this series?
If not, how have previous violations been punished - and have the culprits faced the public vote?
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
There's a big difference between threatening to nominate someone in the heat of the moment (or when drunk) and actively taking part in an orchestrated attempt at influencing and agreeing on nominations ... In theory, both are breaking the rules, but the latter should definitely be punishable by putting the culprits up for eviction ...
A couple of points:
Is this the first case of nominations being discussed this series?
If not, how have previous violations been punished - and have the culprits faced the public vote?
Am I in school ...?
Point no. 1 - I don't know. I watch the HL shows like most people and have not seen much LF.
Point no. 2 - Historically, the culprits have been banned from nominating, but BB has also put people up to face the public vote for this rule break also.
Is that enough to save me from detention ...?
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
There's a big difference between threatening to nominate someone in the heat of the moment (or when drunk) and actively taking part in an orchestrated attempt at influencing and agreeing on nominations ... In theory, both are breaking the rules, but the latter should definitely be punishable by putting the culprits up for eviction ...
A couple of points:
Is this the first case of nominations being discussed this series?
If not, how have previous violations been punished - and have the culprits faced the public vote?
its not the first time that they have discussed nominations but its been the most obvious
quote:There's a big difference between threatening to nominate someone in the heat of the moment (or when drunk) and actively taking part in an orchestrated attempt at influencing and agreeing on nominations ... In theory, both are breaking the rules, but the latter should definitely be punishable by putting the culprits up for eviction ...
A couple of points:
Is this the first case of nominations being discussed this series?
If not, how have previous violations been punished - and have the culprits faced the public vote?
To my knowledge it's not the first time, but it's the first time where initial's have been used and someone has been singled out ie: the nodding.
So this should be used as the first time 'a' punishment be handed out.
They should be not allowed to nominate at the very least.
Karly and Sophie didn't do anything wrong, but are guilty by association and have had their nominates influenced.
quote:Originally posted by Bethni:quote:That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
The issue i have relates to rules being applied fairly. Once you start manipulating the nominations process you have to keep doing so for nomination talk. The easy solution imo - if there is proof that Freddie was mentioned - give him immunity for this week.
BB have given Sophie a nice edit recently and i think that the Rodrigo dog task will feature in the Sunday HL show. There is also intrigue being generated by Freddie about the fake romance and rumours also of a twist. Plus her mum and pet dogs on BBLB today. With such investment, i'm not sure BB will want to lose her at this stage - based solely on that discussion last night.
BB should play the footage live to the house,would love to see the HMS reaction,especially Freddie's,if nothing else it would prove Freddie's theory that Lisa has influenced nominations.
Lisa counted the noms out last night, twenty! you knew she was calculating where the noms would go,she said that two would go up this week then three the following week,so they have at most another 2 weeks left in the house.
Lisa counted the noms out last night, twenty! you knew she was calculating where the noms would go,she said that two would go up this week then three the following week,so they have at most another 2 weeks left in the house.
CS i don't think it was Freddie they were talking about....as you know we were watching it live last night. The conversation went along the lines of... they knew who one of the nomination's would be, ( in my opinion that was Freddie), it was the other nomination that they were discussing with the nod's and the initial's being drawn.
I might be wrong but thats how i read it last night.
I might be wrong but thats how i read it last night.
quote:Originally posted by erinp:
BB should play the footage live to the house,would love to see the HMS reaction,especially Freddie's,if nothing else it would prove Freddie's theory that Lisa has influenced nominations.
Lisa counted the noms out last night, twenty! you knew she was calculating where the noms would go,she said that two would go up this week then three the following week,so they have at most another 2 weeks left in the house.
Very good idea about playing it on the plasma screen. They did it in BB6 to Derek and Roberto.
quote:Originally posted by boink:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
There's a big difference between threatening to nominate someone in the heat of the moment (or when drunk) and actively taking part in an orchestrated attempt at influencing and agreeing on nominations ... In theory, both are breaking the rules, but the latter should definitely be punishable by putting the culprits up for eviction ...
A couple of points:
Is this the first case of nominations being discussed this series?
If not, how have previous violations been punished - and have the culprits faced the public vote?
its not the first time that they have discussed nominations but its been the most obvious
I thought Sree asked housemates to nominate him a couple of weeks ago - surely that would be the most obvious example?
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Bethni:quote:That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
The issue i have relates to rules being applied fairly. Once you start manipulating the nominations process you have to keep doing so for nomination talk. The easy solution imo - if there is proof that Freddie was mentioned - give him immunity for this week.
BB have given Sophie a nice edit recently and i think that the Rodrigo dog task will feature in the Sunday HL show. There is also intrigue being generated by Freddie about the fake romance and rumours also of a twist. Plus her mum and pet dogs on BBLB today. With such investment, i'm not sure BB will want to lose her at this stage - based solely on that discussion last night.
so bb will let sophie do what she likes cos they are investing in her?
rules for one and rules for another?
sophie hasnt really bought anything to the show.
or are they showing more of sophie because its true they are bringing in kris's ex.
whatever she shouldnt be talking noms or getting help on who she should nominate to save their own backsides.
Siavash/Marcus is my betquote:Originally posted by Bethni:
CS i don't think it was Freddie they were talking about....as you know we were watching it live last night. The conversation went along the lines of... they knew who one of the nomination's would be, ( in my opinion that was Freddie), it was the other nomination that they were discussing with the nod's and the initial's being drawn.
I might be wrong but thats how i read it last night.
quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Bethni:quote:That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
The issue i have relates to rules being applied fairly. Once you start manipulating the nominations process you have to keep doing so for nomination talk. The easy solution imo - if there is proof that Freddie was mentioned - give him immunity for this week.
BB have given Sophie a nice edit recently and i think that the Rodrigo dog task will feature in the Sunday HL show. There is also intrigue being generated by Freddie about the fake romance and rumours also of a twist. Plus her mum and pet dogs on BBLB today. With such investment, i'm not sure BB will want to lose her at this stage - based solely on that discussion last night.
so bb will let sophie do what she likes cos they are investing in her?
rules for one and rules for another?
sophie hasnt really bought anything to the show.
or are they showing more of sophie because its true they are bringing in kris's ex.
whatever she shouldnt be talking noms or getting help on who she should nominate to save their own backsides.
If her involvement was no worse than previous nomination discussions that have been allowed to pass unpunished, what would be the benefit of punishing her? Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
quote:Originally posted by Bethni:
CS i don't think it was Freddie they were talking about....as you know we were watching it live last night. The conversation went along the lines of... they knew who one of the nomination's would be, ( in my opinion that was Freddie), it was the other nomination that they were discussing with the nod's and the initial's being drawn.
I might be wrong but thats how i read it last night.
I think you related the discussion last night to one conducted by Lisa and Karly on Friday night, as being essentially the same. I think Freddie is the one housemate clearly defined, but i will take another look at the footage.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
No ... it's based upon the fact that it was a black-and-white rule break ... the other examples you have given are less serious, such as sree asking for people to nominate him ... he's not the first HM to feel self-pity and utter those words ... the conversation last night was an orchestrated attempt to agree on nominations ...
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
No ... it's based upon the fact that it was a black-and-white rule break ... the other examples you have given are less serious, such as sree asking for people to nominate him ... he's not the first HM to feel self-pity and utter those words ... the conversation last night was an orchestrated attempt to agree on nominations ...
How is it black and white when we are not even all in agreement as to who the supposed target is?
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Justafriend:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Bethni:quote:That should not be the issue. They either punish nomination discussion or they don't. If Sophie was not breaking the rules on Friday night, then neither was she last night.
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
The issue i have relates to rules being applied fairly. Once you start manipulating the nominations process you have to keep doing so for nomination talk. The easy solution imo - if there is proof that Freddie was mentioned - give him immunity for this week.
BB have given Sophie a nice edit recently and i think that the Rodrigo dog task will feature in the Sunday HL show. There is also intrigue being generated by Freddie about the fake romance and rumours also of a twist. Plus her mum and pet dogs on BBLB today. With such investment, i'm not sure BB will want to lose her at this stage - based solely on that discussion last night.
so bb will let sophie do what she likes cos they are investing in her?
rules for one and rules for another?
sophie hasnt really bought anything to the show.
or are they showing more of sophie because its true they are bringing in kris's ex.
whatever she shouldnt be talking noms or getting help on who she should nominate to save their own backsides.
If her involvement was no worse than previous nomination discussions that have been allowed to pass unpunished, what would be the benefit of punishing her? Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
i int afraid to say i dont like her much.
unpopular has nothing to do with it.
its a rule break, they have a panic on, and are trying to save their own backsides anyway they can.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
So ..so do you want Sophie punished CS ?
I think of the females in the house Sophie is the least bitchy...infact i think she's quite nice really, the only thing i have against her is her taste in men.
If Lisa has been writing initial's and nodding in the direction of who she was talking about, then it is blatant manipulation of the nomination's procedures and they should all three be up., WITH whoever get's nominated.
I think everyone know's who would go, not just Freddie fan's.
The issue i have relates to rules being applied fairly. Once you start manipulating the nominations process you have to keep doing so for nomination talk. The easy solution imo - if there is proof that Freddie was mentioned - give him immunity for this week.
BB have given Sophie a nice edit recently and i think that the Rodrigo dog task will feature in the Sunday HL show. There is also intrigue being generated by Freddie about the fake romance and rumours also of a twist. Plus her mum and pet dogs on BBLB today. With such investment, i'm not sure BB will want to lose her at this stage - based solely on that discussion last night.[/QUOTE]
so bb will let sophie do what she likes cos they are investing in her?
rules for one and rules for another?
sophie hasnt really bought anything to the show.
or are they showing more of sophie because its true they are bringing in kris's ex.
whatever she shouldnt be talking noms or getting help on who she should nominate to save their own backsides.[/QUOTE]
If her involvement was no worse than previous nomination discussions that have been allowed to pass unpunished, what would be the benefit of punishing her? Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.[/QUOTE]
hold on spohie was involved in this discussion too "Lisa, Karly and Sophie chatted about nominations and evictions last night." i don't see the point you are trying to make ! should we be wanting Sophie punished because she said that she would nominate who ever stole the beer instead of wanting her punished for this latest discussion ? either way she should be punished!
The writing of initials so a truly blatant breaking of the BB rules.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
No ... it's based upon the fact that it was a black-and-white rule break ... the other examples you have given are less serious, such as sree asking for people to nominate him ... he's not the first HM to feel self-pity and utter those words ... the conversation last night was an orchestrated attempt to agree on nominations ...
How is it black and white when we are not even all in agreement as to who the supposed target is?
They were obviously in agreement about their intended target ...
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
Again, the hostility and demand for action is based upon the housemates in question being unpopular.
No ... it's based upon the fact that it was a black-and-white rule break ... the other
examples you have given are less serious, such as sree asking for people to nominate him ... he's not the first HM to feel self-pity and utter those words ... the conversation last night was an orchestrated attempt to agree on nominations ...
How is it black and white when we are not even all in agreement as to who the supposed target is?
thats not the point the point is they talked about nominations ! it does not matter who they were talking about!
quote:Originally posted by Blackpudlian:
The writing of initials so a truly blatant breaking of the BB rules.
Do we know whose name she wrote?
quote:Originally posted by Blackpudlian:
The writing of initials so a truly blatant breaking of the BB rules.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by erinp:
BB should play the footage live to the house,would love to see the HMS reaction,especially Freddie's,if nothing else it would prove Freddie's theory that Lisa has influenced nominations.
Lisa counted the noms out last night, twenty! you knew she was calculating where the noms would go,she said that two would go up this week then three the following week,so they have at most another 2 weeks left in the house.
Very good idea about playing it on the plasma screen. They did it in BB6 to Derek and Roberto.
Oooo I so hope they do that
quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Blackpudlian:
The writing of initials so a truly blatant breaking of the BB rules.
Do we know whose name she wrote?
On another forum, FM's are suggesting Lisa made a gesture across her face to which Karly made a similar one back, but did she mean Marcus or Siavash. Of course, this differs greatly from the initial writing theory on here. Lots of theories, but no conclusive evidence.
to be honest it does not matter who they were talking about nominating ! the rule break is that they were talking about who to nominate
was just about to say the same thing boink - it doesnt matter WHO they were talking about, fact is - they were discussing nominations, BB SHOWED them doing it, we ALL saw it, so BB cant deny it and MUST take appropriate action
in bb9 Imogen was stopped from nominating for 3 weeks for saying once she was going to nominate some one! whats the odds that these three just get a warning?
Well the fact that BB DID show us it AND now have released a printed sheet of the conversatio would seem to suggest they will be going to do something about it.
When they showed Derek and Roberto on the plasma screen ,they didn't wait til nomination's did they? I cant remember.I would think they should have been pulled up by now.
When they showed Derek and Roberto on the plasma screen ,they didn't wait til nomination's did they? I cant remember.I would think they should have been pulled up by now.
quote:in bb9 Imogen was stopped from nominating for 3 weeks for saying once she was going to nominate some one! whats the odds that these three just get a warning?
And now Imogen has Swine Flu - the swine!!!
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
was just about to say the same thing boink - it doesnt matter WHO they were talking about, fact is - they were discussing nominations, BB SHOWED them doing it, we ALL saw it, so BB cant deny it and MUST take appropriate action
Is there a link please?
sorry Kaytee it was on the live feed not sure if its on youtube
quote:Originally posted by boink:
in bb9 Imogen was stopped from nominating for 3 weeks for saying once she was going to nominate some one! whats the odds that these three just get a warning?
it all changed last year, when they did nothing about b block - seems even more blatent this year.
quote:Originally posted by boink:
to be honest it does not matter who they were talking about nominating ! the rule break is that they were talking about who to nominate
I agree, I was just curious
Excellent. Spoilt for choice this week then. No lose situation.
I wish they'd put the three of them up or ban them from nominating-anything! But I doubt they will 
From ds - looks like they are targeting Siavash!
Did you see it? Bet you didn't ha ha.
She coded it as a gesture of mustache stroking, in the style of Siavash, last night at the bus stop to Sophie and Karly. Karyl coded back that she got it by stroking her chin in the style of Siavash.
Then to cover it up Lisa and co then pretended to be talking about the task last week. Covered the tracks brilliantly.
They giggled and laughed all in the giddy knowledge they got away with breaking the rules. Another block vote on the way.
Did you see it? Bet you didn't ha ha.
She coded it as a gesture of mustache stroking, in the style of Siavash, last night at the bus stop to Sophie and Karly. Karyl coded back that she got it by stroking her chin in the style of Siavash.
Then to cover it up Lisa and co then pretended to be talking about the task last week. Covered the tracks brilliantly.
They giggled and laughed all in the giddy knowledge they got away with breaking the rules. Another block vote on the way.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
From ds - looks like they are targeting Siavash!
Did you see it? Bet you didn't ha ha.
She coded it as a gesture of mustache stroking, in the style of Siavash, last night at the bus stop to Sophie and Karly. Karyl coded back that she got it by stroking her chin in the style of Siavash.
Then to cover it up Lisa and co then pretended to be talking about the task last week. Covered the tracks brilliantly.
They giggled and laughed all in the giddy knowledge they got away with breaking the rules. Another block vote on the way.
I seen the stroking of the chin and such but i'm not sure it was about Siavash, it could have been. I thought they started by stroking the sides of their faces....which could have been Siavash or Marcus. Siavash has been quite friendly with Karly lately, i'd be surprised if she nominated him.