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Right, bear with me.

I have thought long and hard about whether I should make this thread or not as I know Lisa stirs up strong feelings in a lot of FMs.

I do, however, genuinely want to know what Lisa has done that is so wrong?

Back stabber? Who isn't in there?
Nasty? See above retort.

If you dislike her, because she's plain boring smoking herself to death all the time, then fair enough, but please tell me what I've missed.

I'm not a Lisa fan, but I don't hate her with a passion and particularly want her out of the house, she's more of a 'meh' for me.

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I think the team she recruited were a bad lot and she sat there at the bus stop orchestrating everything that went on in the house. It all got a bit boring tbh and she needed to go in order to cut the head off the Gorgon. Unfortunately she was teflon coated, but old feelings about her still rankle. Apart from that, she simply gets on my nerves Laugh
Kaytee
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:

I'm not a Lisa fan, but I don't hate her with a passion and particularly want her out of the house, she's more of a 'meh' for me.


That is exactly how I feel about her... from the start! Nod
Dirtyprettygirlthing
Lisa was responsible for the first team nasty....now we have a second team nasty led by bea.

Freddie was pilloried by the first team nasty.So he became a popular underdog.

Freddie in now part of ostracizing others by being in the second team nasty.

I no longer despise lisa anymore than most of the others in there...lisa was just the first to set her stall out.
fz
She started off with blatant bullying, and, after her warning from BB, has been sitting at the bus stop simmering and scheming ever since.

I do, however, think she is no worse than Marcus. Glance
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by Amythist:
I dont think I've forgiven her for her LALALALA style of argument.


pmsl I still chuckle remembering Marcus telling her to "stop flapping your gums" ..it's just the phrase that gets me Laugh
Perones
It goes back to the early day when she bitched and conived against those she percieved to be weaker than her group. She picked on Freddie, and those outside her group. She was very comfortable in her bitching, and one by one those people in her group were voted out by us. She is a relic of the early days, and people still wait for the chance to vote her out.
Heartache
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Originally posted by fz:
Lisa was responsible for the first team nasty....now we have a second team nasty led by bea.

Freddie was pilloried by the first team nasty.So he became a popular underdog.

Freddie in now part of ostracizing others by being in the second team nasty.

I no longer despise lisa anymore than most of the others in there...lisa was just the first to set her stall out.
Agree with all your post.
Marguerita
I don't hate her and think that she may sometimes be unaware of just how much influence she had early on. However she was the leader of the group that ostracised Freddie early on and as such I dislike her. The only reason she has lay low for weeks is that she recieved a couple of warnings from BB over her behaviour. Another factor was, of course ex-hms and newbies letting her know she was'nt popular, which despite her protests of 'not caring what the public think' clearly rattled her.
kimota
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Originally posted by fz:
Lisa was responsible for the first team nasty....now we have a second team nasty led by bea.

Freddie was pilloried by the first team nasty.So he became a popular underdog.

Freddie in now part of ostracizing others by being in the second team nasty.

I no longer despise lisa anymore than most of the others in there...lisa was just the first to set her stall out.

OK, thank you!

I've heard a lot of this Team Nasty, but I must have missed that bit, I have, however noticed Team Nasty II and wondered why these people (Bea, Freddie, Marcus etc) are being supported when Lisa has supposedly done the same.

It was confusing me Laugh
ןєรยร๏ภคςђ๏קקєг
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
quote:
Originally posted by fz:
Lisa was responsible for the first team nasty....now we have a second team nasty led by bea.

Freddie was pilloried by the first team nasty.So he became a popular underdog.

Freddie in now part of ostracizing others by being in the second team nasty.

I no longer despise lisa anymore than most of the others in there...lisa was just the first to set her stall out.

OK, thank you!

I've heard a lot of this Team Nasty, but I must have missed that bit, I have, however noticed Team Nasty II and wondered why these people (Bea, Freddie, Marcus etc) are being supported when Lisa has supposedly done the same.

It was confusing me Laugh


You also have to bear in mind that if anyone with a regional accent talks about another housemate it is called bitching. If it is done in a well spoken voice it is analyzing. Big Grin
fz
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
Right, bear with me.

I have thought long and hard about whether I should make this thread or not as I know Lisa stirs up strong feelings in a lot of FMs.

I do, however, genuinely want to know what Lisa has done that is so wrong?

Back stabber? Who isn't in there?
Nasty? See above retort.

If you dislike her, because she's plain boring smoking herself to death all the time, then fair enough, but please tell me what I've missed.

I'm not a Lisa fan, but I don't hate her with a passion and particularly want her out of the house, she's more of a 'meh' for me.



I agree with you, I tape live feed during the night, Ive nevr seen her doing any recruitment or telling any of them to directly or indirectly who to nominate.

Ive heard other hm's say she does, they are usualy the ones who try and influence other hm's ( this week Marcus putting the boot n david )

Still dont like Lisa but feel she is a victim of snobery at times, on the forums and in the house.
B
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Originally posted by kimota:
I don't hate her and think that she may sometimes be unaware of just how much influence she had early on. However she was the leader of the group that ostracised Freddie early on and as such I dislike her. The only reason she has lay low for weeks is that she recieved a couple of warnings from BB over her behaviour. Another factor was, of course ex-hms and newbies letting her know she was'nt popular, which despite her protests of 'not caring what the public think' clearly rattled her.

I think she just voiced her dislike of Freddie, and the likes of Kris, Karly etc, were weak and just followed her, I didn't actually see her orchestrating anything - what did I miss?
I think she has been given too much credit in this situation, and was followed rather than leading.

Marcus and Freddie said on last night's HL show that Lisa is gaining strength again and will cause dis-harmony in the house, in the same breath they slag off Siavash for milking the sympathy thing - have any of you seen Lisa slag off one of her own 'team' as Marcus does?

Marcus and Freddie also used Bea, what they accuse Lisa of doing, they fed Bea presumption and assumption about David being a 'food bandit' and stood back while she tackled him about it.
ןєรยร๏ภคςђ๏קקєг
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Originally posted by fz:


You also have to bear in mind that if anyone with a regional accent talks about another housemate it is called bitching. If it is done in a well spoken voice it is analyzing. Big Grin
Laugh Laugh Laugh VERY good point!
ןєรยร๏ภคςђ๏קקєг
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Originally posted by fz:
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
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Originally posted by fz:
Lisa was responsible for the first team nasty....now we have a second team nasty led by bea.

Freddie was pilloried by the first team nasty.So he became a popular underdog.

Freddie in now part of ostracizing others by being in the second team nasty.

I no longer despise lisa anymore than most of the others in there...lisa was just the first to set her stall out.

OK, thank you!

I've heard a lot of this Team Nasty, but I must have missed that bit, I have, however noticed Team Nasty II and wondered why these people (Bea, Freddie, Marcus etc) are being supported when Lisa has supposedly done the same.

It was confusing me Laugh


You also have to bear in mind that if anyone with a regional accent talks about another housemate it is called bitching. If it is done in a well spoken voice it is analyzing. Big Grin


you are spot on
B
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
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Originally posted by stonks:
She gives me the irrits and she has them zany eye's that look like the brain is plotting 24/7.... Shake Head
So it's just her appearance and not anything she's actually done?


I've heard too many negetives out of her mouth in the early days, she only wound her neck it when Kenny told her she was'nt popular on the outside..I suppose she reminds me of other bitter acid mouth people I've come accross in life....
stonks
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
I think she just voiced her dislike of Freddie, and the likes of Kris, Karly etc, were weak and just followed her, I didn't actually see her orchestrating anything - what did I miss?
I think she has been given too much credit in this situation, and was followed rather than leading.



She didn't just voice her dislike of Freddie.
She screamed it at him, with her face distorted with rage, and demanded that no one gave him any tobacco. It was classic bullying.

Marcus is a very similar character though. Glance
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by wonder:
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Originally posted by fz:
You also have to bear in mind that if anyone with a regional accent talks about another housemate it is called bitching. If it is done in a well spoken voice it is analyzing. Big Grin


you are spot on


I think Grace Adams Short spoke quite well! Glance
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
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Originally posted by kimota:
I don't hate her and think that she may sometimes be unaware of just how much influence she had early on. However she was the leader of the group that ostracised Freddie early on and as such I dislike her. The only reason she has lay low for weeks is that she recieved a couple of warnings from BB over her behaviour. Another factor was, of course ex-hms and newbies letting her know she was'nt popular, which despite her protests of 'not caring what the public think' clearly rattled her.

I think she just voiced her dislike of Freddie, and the likes of Kris, Karly etc, were weak and just followed her, I didn't actually see her orchestrating anything - what did I miss?
I think she has been given too much credit in this situation, and was followed rather than leading.

Marcus and Freddie said on last night's HL show that Lisa is gaining strength again and will cause dis-harmony in the house, in the same breath they slag off Siavash for milking the sympathy thing - have any of you seen Lisa slag off one of her own 'team' as Marcus does?

Marcus and Freddie also used Bea, what they accuse Lisa of doing, they fed Bea presumption and assumption about David being a 'food bandit' and stood back while she tackled him about it.


One thing I will give Lisa and co is that they are loyal to each other, probably because they came together out of mutual liking rather than neccesity, which Marcus and co did. On the other hand, early on Lisa could clearly be seen tracing letters on the side of the bus, ducking out of sight (she thought) of the cameras and hiding her mouth while saying something to Sophie and Karly. Most people expected her to get punished for this, but it was Karly who got told off by BB that week for talking noms! Lisa was clearly shocked by this and karly's eviction and I think, largely avoided noms talk until David came in!
kimota
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Originally posted by Heartache:
It goes back to the early day when she bitched and conived against those she percieved to be weaker than her group. She picked on Freddie, and those outside her group. She was very comfortable in her bitching, and one by one those people in her group were voted out by us. She is a relic of the early days, and people still wait for the chance to vote her out.
Totally agree. What she did to Freddie was very unpleasant to watch.
captain marbles
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
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Originally posted by stonks:
She gives me the irrits and she has them zany eye's that look like the brain is plotting 24/7.... Shake Head
So it's just her appearance and not anything she's actually done?


No its not her appearance its her whole attitude since she walked through the door. She deliberately built a group, influenced them without getting caught and using those group votes picked on people. She was certainly not a follower she was always the leader and its only since she lost so many of her group and found out she's unpopular that she has quietened down. They were openly talking a few weeks in about how difficult it was going to be a couple of weeks down the line when they had got rid of all the people they disliked and they had to start nominating each other.
squiggle
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
I think she just voiced her dislike of Freddie, and the likes of Kris, Karly etc, were weak and just followed her, I didn't actually see her orchestrating anything - what did I miss?
I think she has been given too much credit in this situation, and was followed rather than leading.



She didn't just voice her dislike of Freddie.
She screamed it at him, with her face distorted with rage, and demanded that no one gave him any tobacco. It was classic bullying.

Marcus is a very similar character though. Glance

I saw her arguement with Freddie in the early days, and I would have probably snapped at him like she did tbh, he is annoying beyond belief, but I didn't see her demanding no-one gave him tobacco, you're right, that is bullying.

I think Marcus is more that character than her, he accuses her of so many things, like he said David having a go at Bea was probably coming from Lisa. All I saw was David ranting about it and Lisa agreeing, he wound himself up, I didn't see Lisa do it, but Marcus accused her of it, because it is exactly what he does.
ןєรยร๏ภคςђ๏קקєг
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Originally posted by stonks:
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Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
quote:
Originally posted by stonks:
She gives me the irrits and she has them zany eye's that look like the brain is plotting 24/7.... Shake Head
So it's just her appearance and not anything she's actually done?


I've heard too many negetives out of her mouth in the early days, she only wound her neck it when Kenny told her she was'nt popular on the outside..I suppose she reminds me of other bitter acid mouth people I've come accross in life....
Fair enough, I must have missed all that, like I said Big Grin
ןєรยร๏ภคςђ๏קקєг
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Originally posted by Kaytee:
I think the team she recruited were a bad lot and she sat there at the bus stop orchestrating everything that went on in the house. It all got a bit boring tbh and she needed to go in order to cut the head off the Gorgon. Unfortunately she was teflon coated, but old feelings about her still rankle. Apart from that, she simply gets on my nerves Laugh


Nod
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by J€šµ§ Øñ à ©höÞþê®:
quote:
Originally posted by stonks:
She gives me the irrits and she has them zany eye's that look like the brain is plotting 24/7.... Shake Head
So it's just her appearance and not anything she's actually done?


No its not her appearance its her whole attitude since she walked through the door. She deliberately built a group, influenced them without getting caught and using those group votes picked on people. She was certainly not a follower she was always the leader and its only since she lost so many of her group and found out she's unpopular that she has quietened down. They were openly talking a few weeks in about how difficult it was going to be a couple of weeks down the line when they had got rid of all the people they disliked and they had to start nominating each other.


Yep couldn't agree more. Also, her bullying of Freddy in the early days and her orchestrating of it, was awful. She has one huge chip on her shoulder and was always slagging Freddy off because of the fact that he was posh and had money. I didn't hear her slag Kenneth off because he has money and was waving those vile snake skin shoes about and telling her they cost over £3,000 Mad
Liverpoollass
I had great hopes for Lisa when she entered the house, and what a let down she was.
Her behavior towards Angel and Freddie was awful, she never once pulled one of her team up about their behavior, she led from the bus stop and condoned all the nastiness that went on. She's very selfish, she ordered tobacco and then demannded food. That night her, Karley and I think it was Charlie went into the kitchen and started eating cerial knowing they were on basic budget and Karley and her cackling about eating all the the others food, she needs to grow up.
She knows she's unpopular on the outside thanks to Kenneth, she's taken a step back. She seems to be trying to re-group now she's got the booming big mouth of Dave on side. I would love her to be gone this week!
Dame_Ann_Average
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I hope she is gone this week too. She has out-stayed her welcome in the house by a few weeks.


Yes I really hope her time is up.....but then who can I growl at on the telly?
Amythist
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Originally posted by Amythist:
quote:
Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I hope she is gone this week too. She has out-stayed her welcome in the house by a few weeks.


Yes I really hope her time is up.....but then who can I growl at on the telly?


Well if she goes, I will be growling at David Big Grin
Liverpoollass

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