I much prefer Ivana to Stephanie any day ...... Ivana, even though she's filthy rich comes across as a really fair down to earth kinda woman.

Stephanie seems almost withdrawn from most of the group imo .... quite snooty with it too.

When did she bitch about Ivana?  I missed that (unless you mean the snitching about over-pureeing the food).


I'm loving Stephanie more and more.  I don't think she's bitching just for the sake of it because she's a bitch.  She's saying what she sees and what I'm thinking most of the time.  Eloquently.

She did mention Ivana's lip-job, but I thought she was pretty tactful, considering Ms Trump looks like she's been hit in the face with a meat mallet. Still liking her.

I liked Stephanie to begin with I thought she had class but her bitching and her snobbiness has put me off her, I think Ivanna has more class in her little finger than Stehanie has, also I feel she is not very genuine..

She said she hadn't seen her without makeup, but admired her for that. And then she told Dane (with whom she was having the conversation) that Ivana was a stunner as a young woman.

Cheers Wilder.  I forgot about that.  As others say though, she did say Ivana was stunning when she was younger, and the lip fact is true 

I love her bitching and 'observations' .. makes a change to have a classy broad bitching so eloquently. .it's fab u luss dahlinks 

In fact the oldies bitching in this series (and they have  all   had a 'chat' about their fellow HM's at some point)  is the best I have seen in a good while.. beats the young uns by miles..( the BB11 lot should take notes for the summer)..  they crack me up

am liking the 'snobbish'  element too

I've renamed the Snug as the Smug, as that seems to be where Stephanie and Vinnie do the majority of their snide bitching.

Patronising and very snide, I guess she wants the others to bow down and worship her and Vinnie.

Love her bitchiness.She's bang on most of the time.

Here here

Don't think she wants people to bow down and worship her, guess she is just looking for what any reasonable well behaved person wants and that is basic good manners and a bit of team spirit.However she'll be waiting if shes looking in the direction of Sov or Kat.

No Judi Dench  

She thinks that talking in a posh voice makes her appear classy.  She should try to be more like Ivana.

Stephanie would love to be of the same social class as Ivana.Stephanie would love us and the HMS to think she lives a lavish lifestyle similar to Ivana's,she doesn't.

Cosidering Ivana's age,I think she looks good.

I don't. I have more admiration for a mature woman who ages properly, but gracefully, and doesn't persist with the Baywatch bimbo hair or dodgy plastic surgery.
Someone like Helen Mirren, for example.

So you think Helen hasn't had some nip and tuck.Sorry you're wrong there.

I don't think their appearance really matters.  Stephanie's personality is shallow and boring.

I didn't say she hadn't. But she's not trying to look 30.

I love Stephanie

not keen on Stephanie atall, and my god i think i would have suffocated her with her snoring

I'm with Demantoid on this one. I am absolutely stunned that women can butcher their faces in the name of beauty or in the quest to preserve their youth. They end up looking like hideous gargoyles. I mean look at the state of Heidi and Ivana's mouth. Unnatural and freaky.