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I've got a rancid tummy/cold bug and can't sleep and have been pondering, some things confuse me.

Firstly, why does that annoying little sign language lady only appear on the tele in the early hours of the morning? Do they think deaf people only watch tele through the night?
I know there is a text option on the tele but why not make the little lady optional too?

Secondly, I have been considering inverted commas and quotation marks. Aren't quotation marks used to refer to something someone has verbally said and inverted commas to quote a piece of text or a description?

Thirdly, does Gareth Gates still stutter? And why is it that when he sang he had no stutter?

Fourthly, can someone explain (in laymans terms) why the answer has been calculated at 42.


What other little everyday things baffle you or make you think hmmmm?

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As far as the 4th question is concerned, there is no official reason. My own theory is that 42 in binary is 101010. In electronic terms, a 1 means switch is on, and a 0 means off. So 101010 means On, Off, On, Off, On, Off which could be a a way of looking at Life, the Universe and Everything. But of course Douglas Adams is no longer with us so can't say whether my theory is right or wrong, but it is at least plausible.

As far as the 1st question is concerned, can't add much other than to say that the subtitles use the same channel as the teletext channel, which as that is text only makes the sign language person having to be part of the main display.

See this link for everything you always wanted to know about inverted commas.

I think stammering is a sign of nervousness and the more you are aware of iy the more likely you are to stammer. Gates has used the McGuire Programme to reduce the stammer. I guess that when he sings, the nervousness vanishes so he doesn't stammer.
El Loro
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Thirdly, does Gareth Gates still stutter? And why is it that when he sang he had no stutter?
I have a friend who has a bad stutter when he talks in company or one to one. He`s a lecturer at our art college and doesn`t stutter when he`s teaching. He also has a sideline as an alternative comedian/singer (very funny) and doesn`t stutter when he`s on stage. That`s when he`s most confident.
Scotty
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Firstly, why does that annoying little sign language lady only appear on the tele in the early hours of the morning? Do they think deaf people only watch tele through the night?

Easy, so that deaf people can Sky+ it and watch whenever they want.


I love sign language and think it should be taught in schools, deaf people can feel isolated in a hearing world, and hearing folk would discover how fascinating deaf language and culture is.
fracas
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and think it should be taught in schools
Is there a 'demand' (for want of a better word) for this though? Although I do agree in the sense that disabilities and how they can affect people should be included in the curriculum somehow to encourage kids to have a better understanding. I don't recall ever even discussing disabilities or anything of that ilk at school.

(And ello bird x)
Karma_
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Is there a 'demand' (for want of a better word) for this though?
I imagine that the majority of deaf people would say so!


And a lot of deaf folk I have met do not see their deafness as a disability, more that the disability is with the hearing world's attitude.  Deaf culture and sign language has a long and interesting history which is largely ignored, and there is a huge lack of deaf awareness still (I have seen people where I work SHOUTING at deaf people and getting irritated with them.  How rude.  It takes almost no effort to learn a few signs (if you think, it's easy to sign 'pen and paper?' isn't it?) 


BSL is a native British language and the first language of the deaf, so yes I would say it is entirely appropriate to teach it in schools.


And ello missus, hope you are having a good day today
fracas
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how fascinating deaf language and culture is.
I find it fascinating!    I used t watch the deaf zone magazine programme all the time...   their "culture" is really really interesting.

The most touching "thank you" I ever had in the LUT (twas to all LUT'rs... not just me) was from a deaf FM who thanked us, explaining that without the LUT most of Big Brother was inaccessible to them.

British Sign Language is fascinating... in its structure, and evolution.
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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British Sign Language is fascinating... in its structure, and evolution.

I loved studying it, and the history is amazing and often shocking  No wonder a lot of deaf people are politicised by their school experiences, some of them not being able to use their first language as the emphasis was on an oralist education (which thankfully changed after 1979), having their hands tied so they had to be 'oral' in class.  Thankfully education now places more emphasis on signing as well as oral communication.


Deaf kids are taught to get on in an oral world, so why shouldn't hearing kids be taught to sign too?  It is much easier for a hearing kid to learn BSL than it is for a deaf kid to learn English!  Deaf culture should be appreciated, but sadly deaf people are marginalised in a hearing world, how can we treat a group of people like that?
fracas
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some of them not being able to use their first language as the emphasis was on an oralist education (which thankfully changed after 1979), having their hands tied so they had to be 'oral' in class.
yeah... I have seen some of this stuff covered in the See Hear programme.  It was shocking.

And I agree...  it wouldn't hurt to teach BSL in primary schools...  it would actually fit in quite well as part of the broader phonetics, and english language subjects.
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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so why shouldn't hearing kids be taught to sign too?
My three older kids were all taught some sign language cos their primary school had a hearing impaired department and every class had at least one hearing impaired kid...Everyone benefitted cos the extra funding funded extra classroom assistants who whilst their main priority was the hearing impaired kid in their class also helped the other kids...

This meant they went through primary school in classes of about 25 kids with 2/3 staff most of the time.
Croctacus
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My three older kids were all taught some sign language cos their primary school had a hearing impaired department and every class had at least one hearing impaired kid...Everyone benefitted cos the extra funding funded extra classroom assistants who whilst their main priority was the hearing impaired kid in their class also helped the other kids...
That is very encouraging to know   Did they enjoy it?
fracas
Yeah they did....they've probably forgotten most of what they learned now but at the time they did, they learned songs in sign language as well...they just accepted it as the way things were, cos the deaf kids were only taken out for one to one stuff about an hour a day, they were in with the others the rest of the time and their deafness was never an issue...

It also meant that kids with other disabilities were readily accepted into the school by all the kids cos it just wasn't a big deal to them.
Croctacus
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they were in with the others the rest of the time and their deafness was never an issue... It also meant that kids with other disabilities were readily accepted into the school by all the kids cos it just wasn't a big deal to them.
That's excellent training for kids...some of the adults I've seen at work (in a HOSPITAL!!) have no awareness of how to deal with anyone who is different from them.  It makes me cringe so bad, and I've held informal awareness sessions to try and improve things a bit.  The reaction is usually, 'Oh yes, it's just common sense isn't it?'
fracas
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It also meant that kids with other disabilities were readily accepted into the school by all the kids cos it just wasn't a big deal to them.

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My son's infant and junior school had physically disabled children in their classes.

Sorry for asking initially if there was 'demand' for sign language to be taught in schools, what I was trying to say (and failing!) was that I didn't think it was that much of an issue to warrant including it as a singular into school curriculum, which is a really ignorant way to think. After reading the thread and these 2 posts it's opened my eyes, so thank you

Also, I wonder if, to make attitudes more acceptable in schools, it would be worth children having to trial being deaf or wheelchair bound for a day, just to see how difficult it is to fit in with the norm? I can only go on my own school days and there was nothing like that happening at the time or any kind of systems in place.
Karma_
Gareth Gates is still a non stutterer. He has to work at it though. Apparently, I was told by the mother of one of our priests, who is a very bad stutterer,that he can sing perfectly well because it is  a different part of the brain that is being used. He used to mostly sing the mass, because when he talked it it took 15 minutes longer than usual. I don't know if this is correct or not, but I have seen the difference, so maybe it is.
Sezit

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