Gwaaaaaaaaaan!  Just ask it.

To add: I think this is a terrible idea, as if there isn't enough patronising guff spread about Steve all over DS (not to mention outright hatred and phobia)...I don't think I can stand reading any more crap. Why on earth does Shabby think it's a good idea

Charity? Treacley charity at that!
I hope to goodness Steve doesn't win by default.
That would be a disastrous way to end Big Brother.
I find him one of the dullest housemates I have ever seen, and I would be very angry if they handed it to him on a plate.
An easy passage because of "fighting for his country" as Ife has said, and because of his terrible injuries as others have said.?
But these are  not the criteria for winning Big Brother.
There is time yet for him to develop as a housemate, but he has done little so far.
If he wins because they let him or out of misplaced sympathy, I will be very very angry.

She`s only saying this to look good. Twit.

Ok no-one bite my head off


Are people calling him a war hero cause he has fought in alot of conflicts or because of his injuries?

His injuries.

He was in Northern Ireland when he was injured, he was only 19...and obviously because his injuries were so horrific he was out of the army after that.

I feel really uncomfortable with people calling him a "war" hero, it implies the NI conflict was...well...a war.  No, doesn't sit right with me at all.  Don't like it

He never fought in a war Aimee so all this 'war hero' is a load of old bollocks.


As for giving him some of the prize money how bloody patronising is that?

Not a good idea....I'm with Ben on this.

He was aged 19 when the IRA blew him up...

None of the HMS should say what the winner does with the prize money correct me if I am wrong but I am sure sorry totally forget his name the HM last year who kept breaking all the rules the guy with the long hair suggested the winner should give the prize money to charity and when Sophie won she gave him £10,000 for his given charity which we will never know if he donated it or not,Steve is very boring but he seems a nice guy, perhaps for the wrong reasons but I would be quite happy if he won and I believe the other HMS would be too...

I think Steve would find it very patronising to  win a show just because he's got no legs. He will be in until the end because nobody wants to be the the person who nominated a man with no legs, again very patronising.

Thanks guys, that was my thinking too, if he was injured when he was 19 then he couldn't have seen alot of action

Agreed, Marg!

As for when Rachel won, she even got badgered by Davina and the mob on BBBM, about how much she was giving to charity.

I'll give Shabby the benefit of the doubt and imagine it's well-meaning, but I'm sure Steve would kick this suggestion into touch if he knew about it.  The last thing I think anyone would want would be to be the recipient of the patronising and self-serving charity of a bunch of plonkers

If the housemates could make Steve's life more comfortable with better mobility via the prize fund then i am all for it.

But my opinion is rarely a popular reflection of the forum and i doubt that it will be on this issue!

I agree that it would be dead patronising if no one voted him just because he's disabled...but I have to disgree with the many posts I've seen on DS where people say that's why he hasn't been nominated.  At this stage he's done nothing to annoy any of the HMs, disabled or not.

So am I Croc.

I am disappointed with Steve. Given his history since his accident he has the potential to be an excellent housemate. Unless of course we're just not seeing it on the HL. 

As for the "hero" bit - well what happened to him was terrible but it happened by unlucky circumstance. He was just a kid in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not decrying the very positive way he has obviously dealt with those hideous injuries but it's not as if he was dismantling the bomb or actually fighting when it went off. He was just unlucky enough to be part of a patrol walking past the bin when the bomb was remotely detonated.

Better mobility than state of the art computerised prosthetics and part time use of what appears to be a flashy wheel chair?

I wish I lived in your universe   (and no I don't mean that in a nasty way!)

If the producers have changed the criteria for winning the show, they should have had the decency to tell us so.
It is not, and never has been, a "Nations Bravest" type show with Carol Vorderman.
It's BB.
I wonder what Steve revealed in auditions for them to have chosen him for the show?
As far as I'm concerned the usual conditions apply and as yet I find him a very dull housemate. Nothing else should come into as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with you he hasn't done anything to warrant being nominated by the HMs.

Didn't Steve say if he won he wanted to donate the money to a charity?

Dave said to Ben something along the lines of well Steve has had to suffer for the last 20 yrs, Ben said well maybe other people have relatives that need help, he then worried that he would look bad for not agreeing,

Don't know how true it is, but I read that Steve, along with Dave and Ciaomhe were hand picked, rather than auditioning.  Ciaomhe because she looked "cool" Dave because they wanted a Christian with strong views (maybe because of Stephen Baldwin?) and Steve as they wanted an army veteran.


Off Topic...does anyone know why my firefox spellcheck is NOT correcting it when I typo "because" as becasue?

We haven't seen much of Steve as an HM because he hasn't rowed or thrown hissy fits or started a fauxmance or whatever the rest of them do to get attention and airtime, Therefore he hasn't done anything that would get him nominated anyway.
If the winner of BB donated something to Help for Heroes, that would be a nice gesture, I doubt that Steve would want anything for himself.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! This is why I flippin' HATE Dave. Arghhhhhhhhhh!

bloody ell... thats no age is it!   I hadn't realised he was so young when it happened (cos I keep forgetting whole decades... cos I feel younger than I am )

as for Steve...  in the first couple of weeks he made a couple of quick one liners that made me laugh...  He's kinda blended into the background at the moment, but I do think there is potential for him if (or when, as people seem convinced no one will nominate him, & the public won't evict him) he stays there til the end.

Should he stay there to the end and still be very much in the background then he will almost certainly be a runner up...  he won't get the votes when its "to win".

Wouldn't Steve be on some sort of Invadilty Benefit, so he wouldn't be able to keep the money anyway or have i got this totally wrong  i know on most benefits your not allowed to have more than £3000 in savings

Dave reminds me of Basil Fawlty trying not to mention the war, when he is talking to Steve.   He seems to be trying so hard not to be un-pc (& yeah leccy.. failing miserably) but somehow he keeps coming out with stuff do do with people or animals with less than the full compliment of limbs.

Could not agree more.

Well said.

I believe that he will receive an army, monthly pension Aimee, but often when invalided out, any other benefits are not affected...or they didn't used to be. I don't know how things work nowadays

Again according to DS Steve doesn't work so I presume he will be on benefits, unless of course his Missus works.

The thing with Dave and people like him, they think they are being PC by "look at me, I'm being nice to a disabled person" but actually they are being the exact opposite...PC would be to stop looking at his disability from a medical perspective (you need to be fixed Steve, sorta thing) and realising that it's the crappy way society is set up that disables Steve.

Well, if you can prove to me that the ones he has are indeed the best available i will indeed head back to erm... my universe!

From the Telegraph article that i read my impression was that Steve and others of his generation didn't necessarily have the latest model:

Mr Gill, who has two artificial legs, said support for soldiers had improved immeasurably in recent years but he said older veterans were not given the same level of treatment, in particular the latest hi-tech artificial limbs.

Quite right that veterans (or indeed anyone in Steve's position) don't get the best in prosthetics, wheelchair provision from the NHS is utterly crap too.

But Steve mentioned on live feed one night that he is trialing the ones he has in the house, on loan from somewhere or other and was explaining how advanced they are.

I know Lecs......   Its the thinner edge of the discrimination scale... by which I mean its not out & out hatred...  but it is discrimination. 

Ickles school was the same in terms of race & ethnicity...  they tried hard... really hard... too hard!  

FWIW I have gained a lot more insight into disability discrimination from your anti-Dave rants...  I wasn't consciously discriminating...  but I suppose I did see Steve from a medical perspective... in terms of "being fixed"  til I read what you were saying.  

So some good has come from Dave being in there!

oh god!   They gave me "wheelchair services" as one of my areas when I was a Project Manager for the Modernisation Agency.... 

it was the most heartbreaking eye opener I have ever had!   Budget for specialist seating ran out after 2 months, leaving an ever growing waiting list at least 10 months before any chance of getting their seats & chairs on order.   The consequences of which were shown to me by the department manager...  she showed me the case file of a 17 year old boy who, without specialist seating & head support, would now have to spend pretty much the whole of the ten months in bed.

Tried to get to the bottom of the underfunding...  turned out it was highly political.. top level political... & I was quickly reassigned to a different department.

Yes Leccy.  I like your comments about medical v. society attitudes. True.

Fair enough - just pulling on my state-of-the-art spacesuit! 

Sorry but I disagree he was in blown up and survived he is a hero in my eyes the same with all our soldiers risking their lives for US and he coped with his disability amazingly,no he would not want to be patronised but he deserves to be praised..

Reference: Thanks you two, I appreciate that
I had no idea how rubbish it was till I started reading a blog by a well know blogger (Bendy Girl)...I was horrified.
Awww Cold Sweat, I honestly get where you are coming from but I think the publicity Steve is getting from being on BB may help him highlight all this anyway...It's the way Dave says stuff like "suffers" it's pukey.

It's the word "war" I have issues with Marg.  We weren't at war with the Irish people