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Originally posted by shar69:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
You should her the nonsense spoken about this issue on DS, they are saying that Freddie is betraying Siavash.

That couldn't be further away from the truth, he's looking out for Siavash.

He doesn't trust Noirin.



No VS, he is definately putting the 'blame' on Siavash.

Siavash who is cheating on his g/f you mean.? Wink

Now thats betrayal.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by shar69:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
You should her the nonsense spoken about this issue on DS, they are saying that Freddie is betraying Siavash.

That couldn't be further away from the truth, he's looking out for Siavash.

He doesn't trust Noirin.



No VS, he is definately putting the 'blame' on Siavash.

Siavash who is cheating on his g/f you mean.? Wink

Now thats betrayal.


Confused Freddie says he is being consistant, he is following the same path he followed regarding Sophie and Kris. Yeah, if Siavash had a girlfriend, he has betrayed her. But what has that got to do with Freddie saying it is a fake romance from the conversation he had with Siavash. I would understand if he was saying that he believes its fake from Noirin but thats not what he is saying.
S
Noirin obviously has other agendas. But I think too many people seem to think Siavash is an angel. He isn't. Why would he just dump his GF, break off his friendship with Marcus...all for a kiss and a cuddle on BB? As Freddie says the relationship in the house is just very CONVENIENT.

Freddie says he is being consistent as he brought up Sophie and Kris. Bea says if they get something out of it what does it matter? I say it matters as it's trying to fool the public and use it as a means of surviving eviction and doing better in the game and then outside the house.
Free Thinking
This isn't going to go down well but i have to say it.

I think Siavash is being bit of a s**t just now. Whether he has genuine feelings for Noirin or not...he IS the one who called her a user and abuser.
Now Marcus is supposed to be one of his closest friends in there and he does know that Marcus has feelings for Noirin, i know its not his fault if he REALLY likes Noirin....but does he really have to rub a friends nose in it so blatantly? Lying in bed with her. Nothing is stopping them from being affectionate if thats what they want, but they look like they are trying to rub salt in the wounds now.
Bethni
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Originally posted by Bethni:
This isn't going to go down well but i have to say it.

I think Siavash is being bit of a s**t just now. Where he has genuine feelings for Noirin or not...he IS the one who called her a user and abuser.
Now Marcus is supposed to be one of his closest friends in there and he does know that Marcus has feelings for Noirin, i know its not his fault if he REALLY likes Noirin....but does he really have to rub a friends nose in it so blatantly? Lying in bed with her. Nothing is stopping them from being affectionate if thats what they want, but they look like they are trying to rub salt in the wounds now.


It goes down well enough with me. Siavash is treated way too kindly on some forums I think. He is in this game to win and no mistake. He may have some feelings or lust or whatever for Noirin but all that could have been kept till after the show. Ultimately this is a showmance and it takes two to tango. I haven't seen any real 'friend' connection so far like the long chats Marcus had with Noirin. As Freddie said it seems more a relationship of convenience.
Free Thinking
Thats exactly how i see it too Free Thinking.

I don't believe ANYONE can turn on feelings as quickly as those two.
She kissed him one night, next day she says she fancies someone else more and would F*** him everyday...that guy leaves the next day and she's back to the one she didn't fancy as much? Confused

He calls her a user and abuser...nominates her a couple of times....then dumps a GF without telling her ( no matter how long he's been seeing her) and totally rides rough shod over a 'friends' feelings.

Then tonight Noirin says.. Siavash DID have a GF when he came in the house but he doesn't ow so its ok for her to be with him and they have nothing to be guilty about. Confused I'd love to know how he managed to speak to his girl and explain it was over... or does little matters like that not mean anything to them?
Bethni
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Originally posted by Bethni:
Thats exactly how i see it too Free Thinking.

I don't believe ANYONE can turn on feelings as quickly as those two.
She kissed him one night, next day she says she fancies someone else more and would F*** him everyday...that guy leaves the next day and she's back to the one she didn't fancy as much? Confused

He calls her a user and abuser...nominates her a couple of times....then dumps a GF without telling her ( no matter how long he's been seeing her) and totally rides rough shod over a 'friends' feelings.

Then tonight Noirin says.. Siavash DID have a GF when he came in the house but he doesn't ow so its ok for her to be with him and they have nothing to be guilty about. Confused I'd love to know how he managed to speak to his girl and explain it was over... or does little matters like that not mean anything to them?


Noirin's assuming he doesn't have a gf now because that's what he's told her but as well know he's lying. Tbh they possibly both have an agenda for their own reasons.
Yellow Rose
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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
LOL, back in the good old days it was so different wasn't it Smiler

Indeed it was Yellow Rose. Never to be recaptured. Smiler


Didn't they this series was back to basics? Naively I thought that meant going back to the original format which was fun to watch because of the HM's they chose. I was wrong lol.
Yellow Rose
Didn't anyone listen to the conversation Freddie had with Bea late last night on LF? He said Siavash was "nonchalant" when they discussed Siavash's feelings for Noirin yesterday morning and that's why he thinks the relationship might be a money spinner instead of genuine.

Well of course Siavash was being "nonchalant", he'd been told the night before by Bea that she didn't think Noirin liked him as much as he liked her.

Siavash was obviously covering his back. Trying to play down his feelings for Noirin. So Freddie was wrong to come to the conclusion that he did.
The Guru
To be honest I was very annoyed with Freddie on LF this morning , I am not sure if his intentions are to look out for Siavash , but as Bea pointed out to him whatever they do outside the house and know body gets hurt its really none of his business. He overanalises (sp)people aand i am finding Freddie a bit pompous at the moment. Siavash has his own agenda with this "relationship" i am sure.
FM
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
To be honest I was very annoyed with Freddie on LF this morning , I am not sure if his intentions are to look out for Siavash , but as Bea pointed out to him whatever they do outside the house and know body gets hurt its really none of his business. He overanalises (sp)people aand i am finding Freddie a bit pompous at the moment. Siavash has his own agenda with this "relationship" i am sure.


When people are trying to fool the public to survive evictions, stay in the house longer or even win the thing...then it very much IS their business.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
To be honest I was very annoyed with Freddie on LF this morning , I am not sure if his intentions are to look out for Siavash , but as Bea pointed out to him whatever they do outside the house and know body gets hurt its really none of his business. He overanalises (sp)people aand i am finding Freddie a bit pompous at the moment. Siavash has his own agenda with this "relationship" i am sure.


When people are trying to fool the public to survive evictions, stay in the house longer or even win the thing...then it very much IS their business.

So Bea is not wanting to pip Freddie at the post and claim first prize then?
Freddie is well aware of his popularity, curtesy of Bea, so may assume the viewers are hanging on to his every word and his sincere guidance. Big Grin
F
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
To be honest I was very annoyed with Freddie on LF this morning , I am not sure if his intentions are to look out for Siavash , but as Bea pointed out to him whatever they do outside the house and know body gets hurt its really none of his business. He overanalises (sp)people aand i am finding Freddie a bit pompous at the moment. Siavash has his own agenda with this "relationship" i am sure.


When people are trying to fool the public to survive evictions, stay in the house longer or even win the thing...then it very much IS their business.
There was no need to go on and on about it and be so judgemental, which he says he hates in others, and if he thinks the public are fooled by this he isnt as clever as he thinks he is
FM
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Noirin covering all bases, Siavash really does like her.


He likes her to some extent, but also useful for him in the game and also maybe outside the house he might feel.

I dont think its useful to him at all. It could be his demise. Cheating on Gf, getting shoved aside wehn another comes along ie her ex.
Reality Junkie
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Originally posted by felix:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
To be honest I was very annoyed with Freddie on LF this morning , I am not sure if his intentions are to look out for Siavash , but as Bea pointed out to him whatever they do outside the house and know body gets hurt its really none of his business. He overanalises (sp)people aand i am finding Freddie a bit pompous at the moment. Siavash has his own agenda with this "relationship" i am sure.


When people are trying to fool the public to survive evictions, stay in the house longer or even win the thing...then it very much IS their business.

So Bea is not wanting to pip Freddie at the post and claim first prize then?
Freddie is well aware of his popularity, curtesy of Bea, so may assume the viewers are hanging on to his every word and his sincere guidance. Big Grin


Noirin and Siavash are also undermining Marcus in their actions (they are just an alliance of convenience not a love relationship) and Freddie is a friend of Marcus.

Bea no doubt has her own agenda and that is a separate issue. I don't like Bea much and I have stated that many times.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Noirin covering all bases, Siavash really does like her.
i agree he likes her but she doesnt like him its all part of her game Wink.


Exactly my take on things.


I think he, Siavash is her fall back after Tom, fortunately for him he had a lucky escape.
GMA
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Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Noirin covering all bases, Siavash really does like her.


He likes her to some extent, but also useful for him in the game and also maybe outside the house he might feel.

I dont think its useful to him at all. It could be his demise. Cheating on Gf, getting shoved aside wehn another comes along ie her ex.


That's what you think but he might not think that. If he did think that why didn't he drop her the moment she said she only wanted friendship, he is now playing along to the game which she dictates.
Free Thinking
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
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Originally posted by Free Thinking:
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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Noirin covering all bases, Siavash really does like her.


He likes her to some extent, but also useful for him in the game and also maybe outside the house he might feel.

I dont think its useful to him at all. It could be his demise. Cheating on Gf, getting shoved aside wehn another comes along ie her ex.


That's what you think but he might not think that. If he did think that why didn't he drop her the moment she said she only wanted friendship, he is now playing along to the game which she dictates.


He's trying to get his end away, nothing more.
The Guru

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