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Originally posted by Blackpudlian:
I hope that MJ's demise comes as warning to others - if you abuse prescription medications an early death may well be the result, and MJ was taking enough of the stuff to make it inevitable. People tried to make him face up to his position but he refused to accept it and get help.


I watched the programme last night on him, and I thought the most interesting part was the interview with the guy who works with addicts.
He was saying that when it comes to addiction to prescription meds that the very rich and the very poor lead the way.

I am very wary of any kind of prescription meds tbh - very dangerous things if they are abused.
And can be very dangerous even if you don't abuse them
FM
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
If he was murdered by anyone it was them, they say he's their family and yet he was addicted to pain meds for years without them trying to help. Maybe if they had watched out for him he would still be alive.


well I don't know the truth of whether or not he was addicted to painkillers but I do know that no one can truly help an addict other than the addict themselves.
The family can do what they can to support them but it has to come from the addict
FM
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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
If he was murdered by anyone it was them, they say he's their family and yet he was addicted to pain meds for years without them trying to help. Maybe if they had watched out for him he would still be alive.


well I don't know the truth of whether or not he was addicted to painkillers but I do know that no one can truly help an addict other than the addict themselves.
The family can do what they can to support them but it has to come from the addict


I know, it just seems for all their words they didn't try to help him so they shouldn't be making wild statements or criticising people, particularly when no one has the whole story yet.
PuppyDooDoo
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
If he was murdered by anyone it was them, they say he's their family and yet he was addicted to pain meds for years without them trying to help. Maybe if they had watched out for him he would still be alive.


well I don't know the truth of whether or not he was addicted to painkillers but I do know that no one can truly help an addict other than the addict themselves.
The family can do what they can to support them but it has to come from the addict


I know, it just seems for all their words they didn't try to help him so they shouldn't be making wild statements or criticising people, particularly when no one has the whole story yet.


yep fair enough, but I guess it's usual behaviour when someone dies from an addiction.
The guilt and blaming yourself and others.

Ultimately the only person to blame is the addict themselves.
Believe me I know
FM
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod
The Devil In Diamante
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod



Not a crime at all. Nod
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod
Yep they are all crawling out the woodworks now... Even you and I can go and sell a story to the trashy media and papers and they will stupidly report it without verification..... Crazy
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod



Not a crime at all. Nod
I agree I dont know why the papers and news channels always want to out celebrities... Its their private life... Who cares if anyone is gay or straight?
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod
Yep they are all crawling out the woodworks now... Even you and I can go and sell a story to the trashy media and papers and they will stupidly report it without verification..... Crazy


To be honest, I've tried to avoid reading most of the trash they insist on writing, it's a load of bollocks...even in death they want to bring him down...I just wish they'd leave him alone!!! Angel
The Devil In Diamante
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I think that you miss the point.
It doesn't really matter what these people say, or whether it is true or not, as long as they keep his name in the news.
News equals money.

Well, he's in the news for something else now:

Two gay lovers

Hardly a shock if it's true but hey.



Don't you just wish that they would put the story to bed?


I do! I was a huge fan of his as well, seems he is worth more to some people dead than he was alive!!!! What a sorry state of affairs! Shake Head

...and, so what if he was Gay, hardly crime of the Century is it, infact, IF he was, I find it quite sad that he couldn't be upfront about his sexuality...that's IF he was....anyone can say anything now, he's not here to defend himself! Nod
Yep they are all crawling out the woodworks now... Even you and I can go and sell a story to the trashy media and papers and they will stupidly report it without verification..... Crazy


To be honest, I've tried to avoid reading most of the trash they insist on writing, it's a load of bollocks...even in death they want to bring him down...I just wish they'd leave him alone!!! Angel
I havnt read anything myself... MJ said himself that 99.9% of the things written about him are made up... I dont read newspapers or watch the news anymore.... Instead of them reporting on the two illegal wars going on, they choose to deflect with MJ stories....
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
I'm with you PCE Valentine I bet the MPs have been heaving massive sighs of relief in the last couple of weeks as well....
Yes they have Hug Laugh...Its really sad that this is happening... Soldiers are dying everyday but no one knows why they are fighting the war in the ist place, all we get is very shady answers...
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by Midnight Choir:
I think that everything became too much for him. He knew he couldn't manage to do the concerts that he was scheduled to do and he couldn't afford not to do them as he was up to his neck in debt
my thoughts exactly. he was totlly trapped. Poor man. Now others will make a fortune from him, he is worth more dead than alive to them.
I also wonder about his children as on top of loosing their father they are in the care of two people nearly 80 years old and one of them whipped and thrashed their father as a child. It is enough to make your hair stand on end.
cannot help wondering as well who the "they" are, his sister says sacked the staff just hours after his death..Its all so bizzaire. R.I.P Micheal Jackson.
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