Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

Yogi, Yogi, Yogi ... I love reading this thread, because I like to read opinions from all sides.

 

But this? Nooooo, this is not fair, too much, too far, and probably (and if it's not, it really should be) illegal! 

 I'm getting desperate, Rexi. I need to get rid of her somehow!

Take heart ... Cameron was my MP xxx

Rofl  Mind you I think I'd rather Cameron than the Crankie

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

No ta....there's a limit to friendship you know  Corbyn can't seem to make his mind up about Scotland though ...one minute he's not wanting to get into bed with the SNP, next he's saying he will consider looking into to a second referendum ....strikes me the man will say anything.... and promise everything to everyone ....simply to get into power 

Bit like May 

 Whatever you think of May you can't lay that one on her ....not after her manifesto 

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I have just seen something along similar lines on Reporting Scotland. Tories spouting rubbish and lies about other parties and how they are the only ones who can save us!

As far as I'm concerned, they are the only ones who can save us, up here!

Really? I see them destroying ALL parts of the UK!

As far as I'm concerned, they are the only ones who can halt the SNP Independence train and that's why I added "up here".

We are at opposite ends of this one, Fluffs but I respect your right to your opinion, even though I don't agree with you.

Baz posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

Yogi, Yogi, Yogi ... I love reading this thread, because I like to read opinions from all sides.

 

But this? Nooooo, this is not fair, too much, too far, and probably (and if it's not, it really should be) illegal! 

 I'm getting desperate, Rexi. I need to get rid of her somehow!

Take heart ... Cameron was my MP xxx

Rofl  Mind you I think I'd rather Cameron than the Crankie

Ditto!! 

Sprout posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Baz posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

No ta....there's a limit to friendship you know  Corbyn can't seem to make his mind up about Scotland though ...one minute he's not wanting to get into bed with the SNP, next he's saying he will consider looking into to a second referendum ....strikes me the man will say anything.... and promise everything to everyone ....simply to get into power 

 Changed his mind oftener than his socks on the second referendum issue

And she hasn't changed her mind on things....or lied? 

Are you saying Corbyn changed his mind....or lied?

I really hope someone goes after her like they've gone after Jeremy tonight  

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

No ta....there's a limit to friendship you know  Corbyn can't seem to make his mind up about Scotland though ...one minute he's not wanting to get into bed with the SNP, next he's saying he will consider looking into to a second referendum ....strikes me the man will say anything.... and promise everything to everyone ....simply to get into power 

Bit like May 

 Whatever you think of May you can't lay that one on her ....not after her manifesto 

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

Yogi19 posted:

Baz posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

Yogi, Yogi, Yogi ... I love reading this thread, because I like to read opinions from all sides.

 

But this? Nooooo, this is not fair, too much, too far, and probably (and if it's not, it really should be) illegal! 

 I'm getting desperate, Rexi. I need to get rid of her somehow!

Take heart ... Cameron was my MP xxx

Rofl  Mind you I think I'd rather Cameron than the Crankie

Ditto!! 

Dunno ladiezzz, I think maybe wee Crankie has the country's best interests at heart, Cameron ... well, it was ever all about him.

Yogi19 posted:

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I have just seen something along similar lines on Reporting Scotland. Tories spouting rubbish and lies about other parties and how they are the only ones who can save us!

As far as I'm concerned, they are the only ones who can save us, up here!

Really? I see them destroying ALL parts of the UK!

As far as I'm concerned, they are the only ones who can halt the SNP Independence train and that's why I added "up here".

We are at opposite ends of this one, Fluffs but I respect your right to your opinion, even though I don't agree with you.

Likewise Yogi!

Sprout posted:

Kaffs posted:

Paxo's a pompous prick, isn't he?

  

Summed up on Twitter 'he sounds like a drunk, belligerent, arsehole'

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Baz posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

No ta....there's a limit to friendship you know  Corbyn can't seem to make his mind up about Scotland though ...one minute he's not wanting to get into bed with the SNP, next he's saying he will consider looking into to a second referendum ....strikes me the man will say anything.... and promise everything to everyone ....simply to get into power 

 Changed his mind oftener than his socks on the second referendum issue

And she hasn't changed her mind on things....or lied? 

Are you saying Corbyn changed his mind....or lied?

 

Exactly  What I can't seem to get across is that all politicians do that ....whether you think it's lying , or changing their mind depends on whether you support that particular politician ...

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Baz posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

Yogi, Yogi, Yogi ... I love reading this thread, because I like to read opinions from all sides.

 

But this? Nooooo, this is not fair, too much, too far, and probably (and if it's not, it really should be) illegal! 

 I'm getting desperate, Rexi. I need to get rid of her somehow!

Take heart ... Cameron was my MP xxx

Rofl  Mind you I think I'd rather Cameron than the Crankie

Ditto!! 

Dunno ladiezzz, I think maybe wee Crankie has the country's best interests at heart, Cameron ... well, it was ever all about him.

 

 

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

That's the thing though, he doesn't promise the earth. It's all been costed out 

Baz posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Baz posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Sprout posted:

Well.....if Nic gets her way and Scotland goes separate, you can have them up there. I don't want them down here 

Happy to have them.

I'd be even happier if I could send Sturgeon down to you. 

Sound like a fair swap?

 

No ta....there's a limit to friendship you know  Corbyn can't seem to make his mind up about Scotland though ...one minute he's not wanting to get into bed with the SNP, next he's saying he will consider looking into to a second referendum ....strikes me the man will say anything.... and promise everything to everyone ....simply to get into power 

 Changed his mind oftener than his socks on the second referendum issue

And she hasn't changed her mind on things....or lied? 

Are you saying Corbyn changed his mind....or lied?

 

Exactly  What I can't seem to get across is that all politicians do that ....whether you think it's lying , or changing their mind depends on whether you support that particular politician ...

 Spot on

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

That's the thing though, he doesn't promise the earth. It's all been costed out 

He has ...even offering football fans special tickets  As for the costings, the IFS ....which is independent ....has said their are big holes in both parties costings....

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

I meant independence ... but I suppose it's one and the same?

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

Was about to ask the same question.

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

That's the thing though, he doesn't promise the earth. It's all been costed out 

He has ...even offering football fans special tickets  As for the costings, the IFS ....which is independent ....has said their are big holes in both parties costings....

A drop in the ocean to the other problems in this country, and yes, there may be holes but I'll wager there's bigger holes in the Tory party costings than there are in the Labour Party's 

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

I meant independence ... but I suppose it's one and the same?

 It is, imo. 

Recent polls show that support for Independence has gone down since the last referendum, thank goodness. 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

Was about to ask the same question.

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

I meant independence ... but I suppose it's one and the same?

Not exactly.....Bringing the country to it's knees(given that scenario) wouldn't guarantee independence, IMO.

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

That's the thing though, he doesn't promise the earth. It's all been costed out 

He has ...even offering football fans special tickets  As for the costings, the IFS ....which is independent ....has said their are big holes in both parties costings....

A drop in the ocean to the other problems in this country, and yes, there may be holes, but I'll wager there's bigger holes in the Tory party costings than there are in the Labour Party's 

Well time will tell .....and it will be interesting to see how many of the myriad of promises he's made will actually come to fruition if he gets in power  ....I'm guessing not many , cos they are already talking about this review and that review ....but if they do how much it will cost us all ....

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

I meant independence ... but I suppose it's one and the same?

Not exactly.....Bringing the country to it's knees(given that scenario) wouldn't guarantee independence, IMO.

Independence would bring the country to its knees, imo. 

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Ok, what's she promised that's gonna benefit the country?  and that said....manifesto is uncosted 

Not a lot Sprout ....that's my point ....you can hardly accuse her of promising the earth like Corbyn  ....in fact the total opposite 

That's the thing though, he doesn't promise the earth. It's all been costed out 

He has ...even offering football fans special tickets  As for the costings, the IFS ....which is independent ....has said their are big holes in both parties costings....

A drop in the ocean to the other problems in this country, and yes, there may be holes but I'll wager there's bigger holes in the Tory party costings than there are in the Labour Party's 

And yes , exactly, so it can only be in order to gain votes 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Rexi posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Crankie only has one thing at heart and that's Independence. She would bring Scotland to its knees to attain that.

Surely that will never happen?

Independence or bringing the country to its knees?

 

I meant independence ... but I suppose it's one and the same?

Not exactly.....Bringing the country to it's knees(given that scenario) wouldn't guarantee independence, IMO.

Ah well, I dip out now Fluffs, upu know a lot more abput this than me

Yogi19 posted:

 It is, imo. 

Recent polls show that support for Independence has gone down since the last referendum, thank goodness. 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Not exactly.....Bringing the country to it's knees(given that scenario) wouldn't guarantee independence, IMO.

Oh dear, we differ again!

Says a lot when the audience erupts into spontaneous laughter and heckles the PM when she refers to the costing of the Labour manifesto.    Where's your sums then Tess?

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

A drop in the ocean to the other problems in this country, and yes, there may be holes, but I'll wager there's bigger holes in the Tory party costings than there are in the Labour Party's 

Well time will tell .....and it will be interesting to see how many of the myriad of promises he's made will actually come to fruition if he gets in power  ....I'm guessing not many , cos they are already talking about this review and that review ....but if they do how much it will cost us all ....

You're right, time will tell   

But it's the same with a Tory Government. How much of what they say they'll do will come to fruition, given the fact that they've got no costs for things 

And I welcome reviews.....it might stop us haemoraging (sp) money to those who shouldn't have it.....namely the fat cats 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Yogi19 posted:

 It is, imo. 

Recent polls show that support for Independence has gone down since the last referendum, thank goodness. 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Not exactly.....Bringing the country to it's knees(given that scenario) wouldn't guarantee independence, IMO.

Oh dear, we differ again!

 No! 

Kaffs posted:

Says a lot when the audience erupts into spontaneous laughter and heckles the PM when she refers to the costing of the Labour manifesto.    Where's your sums then Tess?

Let's see how Paxo does with her   Hmmmm 

Sprout posted:

Let's see how Paxo does with her   Hmmmm 

Yes, this'll be interesting.   If he doesn't get all 'drunk at the end of the bar' with her, I'll be livid.    Another Twitter quote... 

Corbyn adopting the tone with Paxo of a kindly neighbour explaining to the oddball next door why the bins must be put out on a Tuesday

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

A drop in the ocean to the other problems in this country, and yes, there may be holes, but I'll wager there's bigger holes in the Tory party costings than there are in the Labour Party's 

Well time will tell .....and it will be interesting to see how many of the myriad of promises he's made will actually come to fruition if he gets in power  ....I'm guessing not many , cos they are already talking about this review and that review ....but if they do how much it will cost us all ....

You're right, time will tell   

But it's the same with a Tory Government. How much of what they say they'll do will come to fruition, given the fact that they've got no costs for things 

 

And I welcome reviews.....it might stop us haemoraging (sp) money to those who shouldn't have it.....namely the fat cats 

But I don't believe everything the Tories say either Sprout ...so it won't come as much of a shock to me .........it's the blind acceptance that  Labour is all good ....Tories all bad ...that I find amusing ...as for the fat cats ....without a few of those this country would be facing even more austerity .....even the communists found that out the hard way 

Baz posted:

But I don't believe everything the Tories say either Sprout ...so it won't come as much of a shock to me .........it's the blind acceptance that  Labour is all good ....Tories all bad ...that I find amusing ...as for the fat cats ....without a few of those this country would be facing even more austerity .....even the communists found that out the hard way 

Neither do I   

I'm not saying that Labour is all good either. I'm just saying that they'll be fairer where the cuts are made 

As for the fat cats, I can't believe you just said that Bazzy 

I'm slightly mollified that Paxo's just as big an idiot with her.   

Oooft.   I might even like him a little bit now.

Kaffs posted:

I'm slightly mollified that Paxo's just as big an idiot with her.   

 

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

But I don't believe everything the Tories say either Sprout ...so it won't come as much of a shock to me .........it's the blind acceptance that  Labour is all good ....Tories all bad ...that I find amusing ...as for the fat cats ....without a few of those this country would be facing even more austerity .....even the communists found that out the hard way 

Neither do I   

 

I'm not saying that Labour is all good either. I'm just saying that they'll be fairer where the cuts are made 

 

As for the fat cats, I can't believe you just said that Bazzy 

 But how do you think we will get all the money to run the country if we don't have the so called fat cats running business etc that give people work and tax into the system ? I want a country that raises people's standards and spiral ions  ...not dumbs them down . That's not to say I don't think they...higher earners .... shouldn't contribute more ....I just don't think you can blame them for all societies ills ....