@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Is Kwarteng going to be sacked? There seems to be some speculation to that effect and that more U-turns are in the offing!
I reckon she will throw him under the bus ….not that he will be any loss !
OMG! What's she going to do now, I wonder?
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:OMG! What's she going to do now, I wonder?
Hopefully bliddy resign and call a general election ! But sadly , I doubt it !
Someone was saying (can't remember who) that changing the PM again would be disastrous. However would it be anymore disastrous than the mess we are currently in!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Someone was saying (can't remember who) that changing the PM again would be disastrous. However would it be anymore disastrous than the mess we are currently in!
My feeling exactly EFFT 
@Baz posted:Oh it has been confirmed now …Hunt is definitely chancellor
Apparently, he backed Rishi for PM, so maybe he'll take some 'chancelloring' lessons from Rishi, who didn't do too awful a job as chancellor - I think.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Apparently, he backed Rishi for PM, so maybe he'll take some 'chancelloring' lessons from Rishi, who didn't do too awful a job as chancellor - I think.
Yes , Rishi did a reasonable job ….at least you felt like he knew what he was doing .
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Apparently, he backed Rishi for PM, so maybe he'll take some 'chancelloring' lessons from Rishi, who didn't do too awful a job as chancellor - I think.
@Baz posted:Yes , Rishi did a reasonable job ….at least you felt like he knew what he was doing .
Or maybe he'll do a Rishi and stab the PM in the back in the hope of taking up the mantle 
Wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them 
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:But as such, Suricat, we don't DIRECTLY elect the Prime Minister. We elect a political party and the party elects a leader who then becomes PM. Yes, we generally know who the leader of each party is before the election, but we are usually electing the party on their manifesto and hoping/expecting THEIR elected leader to do a decent job.
Er, I tnink you have this a bit 'back to front' EFFT.
'A party' elects 'a leader' to 'promote a/the party' into a 'general election'. The 'electorate' then decides 'which party' has the 'power' to implement/enforce their 'mandate'!
Without the/that 'mandate' of 'the electorate' the 'party in power' can't 'democraticaly officiate any "change" in/to its policies'! Any changes in 'policy' following a/the 'party's election' of a 'new party leader' is just UNDEMOCRATIC without the 'mandate' of 'the population' in a 'general election'!
In 'hindesight', the 'Blear Years' probably restricted 'democracy' by imposing the 'same party' within the 'five year survival' of/for any 'elected party'.
Let's face it. Boris couldn't contain the 'discontent' within 'his party', thus, 'the party' wasn't 'content' with their leader and the 'mandate' that 'the party' was 'elected upon' is in not only in question by the electorate, its also questioned by the electoral commision.
Just now, I'm half asleep. Please let me know if my post makes any sense.
Kind regards, Ray Dart (AKA susicat)
Feck sake I'm going to have to say it.
There's nothing worse than pedantic. The clock is ticking and we're all on countdown. I'll defend Fluffs anyday.
Don't educate us suricat - we're probably pretty well clued up.
Yes, it makes sense, but to me it pretty much says the same as my post, just expressed a bit differently.
One thing it seems to say to me, though, is that we are electing a party on the basis of whether or not we like their leader, almost as if the party policies are secondary to the appeal of their leader's personallity. 
@velvet donkey posted:Don't worry about it Fluffs . Ill argue with him/her
Bring it on
No worries Velvet.
@velvet donkey posted:Feck sake I'm going to have to say it.
There's nothing worse than pedantic. The clock is ticking and we're all on countdown. I'll defend Fluffs anyday.
Don't educate us suricat - we're probably pretty well clued up.
Seconded ❤️
@velvet donkey posted:Feck sake I'm going to have to say it.
There's nothing worse than pedantic. The clock is ticking and we're all on countdown. I'll defend Fluffs anyday.
Don't educate us suricat - we're probably pretty well clued up.
I wouldn't presume to 'educate' you @velvet donkey, I just tried to add to the invitation that you offered for my inclusion in this thread.
If you want, I'll leave.
@suricat posted:I wouldn't presume to 'educate' you @velvet donkey, I just tried to add to the invitation that you offered for my inclusion in this thread.
If you want, I'll leave.
Don’t go Suricat ….all views are welcome here .
You couldn’t make up what’s happening today , could you ? Never in all my 50 plus years watching politics have I seen the like . If Truss has a shred of conscience she would resign immediately , and call a bliddy election! 
@Saint posted:Where did you read that my friend?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/po...nt-budget-liz-truss/
Found it
Quasi Kwarteng was called a long standing friend by Lizzy - so it's true there are no friends in Politics then?
Wasn't he just her mouthpiece anyway? What he said were her policies, so why get rid of him?
It’s definitely stretched the elastic