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And he's the new forum hero?
I like that he's stirring, but I dunno if I like him (too early to say) if he HAS said that crap then obv. I'll happily widdle on his grave and hate him good stylee, but I dunno if he has said that yet?  I also read that he said to some woman (who had an amputated leg) summat like: I dunno why you bothered making an effort and dressing up coz you are disabled.

If he DID say that?  I could possibly hate him more than Dave!  But, I dunno how much I trust DS so I'm all of a quandary.
Leccy
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The trouble is, Sam's going to make Dave look good in the HL show, just as Ben did.
I hope not.  I really hope not.

It's daft, I know it's daft, but I seriously find it quite despairing when folks find casual bigotry ok. I can laugh at seriously un PG things, things that are actually a bit evil   But tired, generic, thoughtless, lazy, common shite makes me either yawn or feel stabby

I hope Sam isn't yawny or stabby...how boring and pedestrian if he is
Leccy
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Now I'm thinking of the PG Tips Chimps...
Bollox, I'm now thinking of all those shite American films like Animal House


I (should probably not admit it) can laugh loads of stuff that is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.  But lazy? Nah.  Ohhh ha ha "Mikey is blind" Erm..not funny in itself.  "Mario: "Open your eyes Mikey is BLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND!" Funny
Leccy
Well I havent seen the vids so can't comment fully (if someone can post a link I would be grateful.

If it IS true, I would detest the little sh!t even more... I never liked him much from the onset, and can't STAND him now....IMO he is a bible bashing numpty who bores me bloody rigid with his constant religious rantings, and his holier-than-thou attitude, and now he has become a diet bore too... constantly exercising and rabbitting on about weight loss. 

If he DID use a wheelchair to make people feel sorry for him, then that is not acceptable on any planet..however much he 'intended no harm.'  It's well out of order.

Everything about this prick pi$$es me off from his voice to his face, to his diet and fitness harpings on, to his religious rants and'drunk on God' crap.  I am not having a go at everyone who has a religious belief, but *some* people are just so full of themselves and so pious, and Dave is no exception;  I can't believe we lost the lovely BEN when we could have got rid of this w@nker.
cockney-chick
I am at a loss as to how anyone can justify Dave's behaviour. He pretended to be disabled in order to "bless" more people. Sorry, how is this the act of a Christian - or indeed any person of faith?

What he did was inexcusable and actually who the hell is he to bless anyone?
I too know deeply religious people, I am sure most of us do. I am equally sure that none of them would stoop to such tricks.
Let's quote the Bible shall we... 

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7 chp 15

Pretty good description of Dave wouldn't you think?
He is not a good man, he is a nasty spiteful self serving creep. His behaviour cannot be accepted or justfied on any level IMO.
FM
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My nephew was round, earlier (not like an apple, round), and mentioned that he quite liked that Dave bloke, but he left with a different opinion!
 I was at the hair salon the other day, and someone mentioned liking Dave.  After I'd finished my Dave rant, I can't say whether they left with a different opinion or just plain old scared. 
Cinds
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Isadora offline 1,457 Forum Posts Today at 6:26 AM Last Edited: I am at a loss as to how anyone can justify Dave's behaviour. He pretended to be disabled in order to "bless" more people. Sorry, how is this the act of a Christian - or indeed any person of faith? What he did was inexcusable and actually who the hell is he to bless anyone? I too know deeply religious people, I am sure most of us do. I am equally sure that none of them would stoop to such tricks. Let's quote the Bible shall we... Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7 chp 15 Pretty good description of Dave wouldn't you think? He is not a good man, he is a nasty spiteful self serving creep. His behaviour cannot be accepted or justfied on any level IMO.


But, he survived over Ben - which I still find astonishing.
Liverpoollass
LL if it had just been Ben and the monk up i think the monk would have gone, but people who support JJ wanted Ben out because they knew JJ didnt like Ben. JJ i think has the biggest fan base.
all vote were between monk and ben i would guess. I wouldnt be suprised if andrew and jj only got about 10% of the votes.  maybe its me just wishful thinking but thats how i see it,
justafriend
Thing is about Dave hes coming across well in the house , positive,caring,loving fairminded and helpful.

Hes not doing a Baldwin and just spouting religious crap and being a bit of an arse.

The monk side of Dave is taking a bit of a back seat which is why hes palatable to many.

 Ive looked at a couple of his u tube vids I think they are stupid but not evil. 

Its a strange one.
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Reference: I haven't watched the wheelchair video, in what way is it different to the Matt Lucas/Little Britain stuff?

Matt Lucas plays the part of a con-man.  And Dave's allegedly the polar opposite.
Having now watched the video of Dave the monk in a wheelchair , I understand the differences
 between that and the Little Britain 'Andy' sketches, but also several similarities: both pretending to be disabled/wheelchair users to meet their own ends; both potentially v offensive to those who are genuinely disabled/ wheelchair users; both, imo, not at all funny
FM
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Having now watched the video of Dave the monk in a wheelchair , I understand the differences between that and the Little Britain 'Andy' sketches, but also several similarities: both pretending to be disabled/wheelchair users to meet their own ends; both potentially v offensive to those who are genuinely disabled/ wheelchair users; both, imo, not at all funny
But its the aspect of Dave pretending to be a real monk who can bless people that is equally offensive.
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But its the aspect of Dave pretending to be a real monk who can bless people that is equally offensive.
Dave is not pretending to be a "real monk" he is a religious man (granted rather odd) who wears a brown robe and runs his own church, which as far as I know is not illegal.  He is not pretending he is a Catholic monk, he is a monk of his own church.
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Dave is not pretending to be a "real monk" he is a religious man (granted rather odd) who wears a brown robe and runs his own church, which as far as I know is not illegal. He is not pretending he is a Catholic monk, he is a monk of his own church.
I amy be wrong Spy, I couldn't sit through much of the vid (it sickened me) but I am sure I heard him say 'get a blessing from a real monk'.
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Dave is not pretending to be a "real monk" he is a religious man (granted rather odd) who wears a brown robe and runs his own church, which as far as I know is not illegal. He is not pretending he is a Catholic monk, he is a monk of his own church.
I'd agree with that, although I hate his methods.

Unless you believe that the Pope is God's authority on earth, anyone can start a Christian cult movement of their own.
Blizz'ard
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I amy be wrong Spy, I couldn't sit through much of the vid (it sickened me) but I am sure I heard him say 'get a blessing from a real monk'.
You are probably right he said that (can't remember!) but if he believes wholly in "his" church then to him he is a "real" monk.

 I too disagree with his methods Blizzie but I don't belive he is trying to offend anyone.
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You are probably right he said that (can't remember!) but if he believes wholly in "his" church then to him he is a "real" monk. I too disagree with his methods Blizzie but I don't belive he is trying to offend anyone.
I don't think he is trying to offend people, but I do believe that his wheelchair stunt is a way of conning people, and is offensive to those who really do need wheelchairs. He wants recruits to his church and tricking people into thinking he is disabled is a pretty sick method. Encouraging others to do the same, while laughing about it, is not something Jebus would have approved of either, IMO.

His lifestyle doesn't fit with the term 'monk', but he likes the outfit, so I couldn't care less what word he uses.

I prefer 'tosser'!
Blizz'ard
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Dave is not pretending to be a "real monk" he is a religious man (granted rather odd) who wears a brown robe and runs his own church, which as far as I know is not illegal.  He is not pretending he is a Catholic monk, he is a monk of his own church.
that's more or less what I was trying to say a few pages back. You have done it so much better 
Soozy Woo
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I don't belive he is trying to offend anyone
The fact that he isn't trying to offend anyone does NOT prevent his actions from being offensive. In his questionable behaviour, and the founding of his own church, is he glorifying God (I don't see it) or stroking the ego which is borne of his own God Complex? He has no humility.
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