God forbid anyone should be deprived of one of Dave's fake blessings how awful for them. It was disgusting behaviour and he laughed about it all later on the same video man of God my arse.

That is the whole issue - Dave is an ego on legs - and an even bigger one on wheels it seems.

^^^^^ Leccy I could KISS YOU!!! very well said indeed

No one would defend him blacking up.

Like I said to Barmy the other night, disabilism is the last "ism" folks dare speak in public.

Just nicked this from a post on DS WHATM thread:


"I was watching when Sam turned to Dave and said 'you should be worried about the newspapers '

Dave replied that they would be saying about it being a Cult and questioning where he got his money from.Sam then just smiled at him. Other FMs said that Sam had mentioned Dave's videos on a previous occasion".

What right has he to bless people who have no desire or need to be blessed?
If he's not invited how dare he presume that he can approach.

His laughter came across to me as excitement that he got to bless so many people, and although I disagree with his methods I can understand his motives, who's to say what religion is real or not?  We can all believe what we want to believe and maybe just maybe we should let him do that.

Oh it's the life of Riley donchaknow

Barmy

He can believe what he likes about God, he can't believe whatever he likes about disability...Not when it HURTS people.

I take on board it may not have been done maliciously, but it's a pretty unthinking and insensitive thing to do. Might have been a bit of a " jolly jape" that for him and his cronies , but  what about his claims to be able to regenerate limbs and make tumours disappear? Are they ok to write off as "religious fervour " ?

Not exactly accurate and I have to say I was waiting for someone to come up with that 

I know a lot of people who are very religious - my next door neighbours for one. They see it as a duty to spread the word, Maybe I'm insensitive but I watched that You Tube clip with an open mind ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he was not mocking - nor taking the pee .........................just spreading his word,

Those people stopped and allowed him to bless them, they could easily have just walked away, he didn't handcuff them to the wheelchair until he was done!

Soozy in this context the religious bit is irrelevant.  I thought what we were debating here was whether it is appropriate to crip up for japes.

.... in a wheelchair (to above posts) - nobody would have given him the time of day if he was 'pissed up' dressed as a monk - so lets stick him in a wheelchair - cos people in wheelchairs always get noticed - NOTICED - not accepted
f*ck off Dave and ur little cult

uhuh.. and I believe he is an insensitive, egotistical, duplicitous, offensive arse.

But it wasn't for japes it was in his eyes for his religion.

Oh *high five*

You see it as japes ........................I think he was quite serious, The music was jaunty but it was religious in content,

Religion in churches nowadays isn't all dirges abd psalms. It is upbeat and joyful ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whether you agree or not I really and truly don't think he was being anyway disrespectful.

ahhhh that was therapeutic

I find this very disingenuous.

Fair enough and I'm not asking you to change that opinion, just giving us all some food for thought.

AMEN to that

Yes, because people generally have sympathy for people in wheelchairs, believing them to have a disability. Dave used that compassion to force his ridiculous 'drunk on the glory of God' act on people and then laughed about it with his mates later. Note, laughed "at" them (watch the video).

Fair dos, but there's plenty here who think he was. Maybe best  for us not to keep arguing this round in circles

WTF? Soozy, I've no issue with the music, I've no issue with his church being of the jaunty variety, my best mate is pentecostal   I'm THAT tolerant as a hardcore athiest that my best mate is pentecostal and another really good pal is a minister...

Laughing your head off about how people give wheelchair users attention (that we don't fecking want!) is not joyful, it's a piss take, it's cruel, it's insensitive...it's warped, old fashioned, bigoted thinking.

Soozy, I've just read your post in another thread where you said maybe it was in bad taste

Yep!

Sooz - so ok - he could have WALKED around - pissed on the glooooooooory, dressed in a monks outfit.... all power to his odd-ball elbow.....
why sit in a wheelchair - explain that (oh no I'm forgetting he was so pissed that he lost the use of his legs apparently) - get a grip f*ckin freak fraud monk - u ARE NOT A MONK, U ARE NOT A MINISTER, U ARE NOT A VICAR, YOU ARE NOT A PRIEST - u're a freak who still drinks even though your a recovering alcoholic.  You are about as forgiving and God-fearing as I am a man - simple as that

Wholly accurate.  You came in here and started a thread trying to drum up support, that disabled people should not be allowed to share a theatre performance, with people who had paid good money not to be disrupted by the mentally or physically impaired , because you and your family member deemed there had been  inappropriate actions and reactions to the performance.   .

We should pray for him

no ta Leccy

No, I think we should insist that we lay hands on him to make him whole..

In the same way Cameron wanted to lay his two fingers on Lisa's windpipe?

And that WAS a joke before anyone melts down

That was the HL of the BB4 SERIES

Tiddly ..................... I have no desire to drag up yhat again......................you obviously do for some reason. I struggled to explain my self and dug myself deeper as it's not always easy with the written word,

Please feel free to go ahead and say how I start threads to drum up support against disabled people = that really isn't how it was - but don't let that get in the way of a witch hunt,

Why the need of a wheel chair though?..Why not walk?..The one thing I do believe in is karma and its going to bite him in the arse....

To be fair Soozy coupled with this here, it does somewhat suggest a slightly disablist attitude on your part.  HOWEVER I think I read somewhere recently something that suggested the exact opposite.

The forum isn't an accurate representation of who we are, and I agree you can dig yourself into holes here, it's not as easy to explain yourself as it is face to face.

Personally I don't think I would stick you in the disablist category but I can see why folks reading this and remembering the theatre thread (which in the interests of full disclosure I thought you were totally in the wrong ) would come to that conclusion.

I can't shrug the feeling that you (and other people who have defended Dave) wouldn't be defending him if he'd blacked up...or was snogging another fella in the street just for "attention" (good or bad)

Amen

*runs away* 

No witch hunt Sooz. I am only me on here and don't rely or depend on any kind of backup from anyone.    Just don't get how you can be so down on the genuinely disabled, but support a horrible con man who PRETENDS to be disabled to swell the coffers of his mickey mouse cult.   That man is  an absolute b@sturd for what he does!  Cheek of him demanding a Bible for 30 minutes a day, when he hardly glances at it, if there's a sniff of gossip going on around him!   Nanite!