I shall vote in favour of it,that is all...

good point.

Davies 62 Cameron 56 in the first ballot. Eventually after the also rans left Cameron 68% Davies 32%

I have voted (by post)  FOR AV.

I don't like 'first past the post'. Anything more proportional and/or representative is fairer in my opinion.

Oh and I'm not  voting for spud heid Salmond up here either...pah! Tartan tories..

I'm voting against - if peeps don't vote at the mo for simply putting one cross - can you imagine how many would vote if they had to put an order + i have to vote like this for NUT Union candidates and it is a pain

a definite no for me

It's not man flu. I haven't had that for years. I have ear infections. On top of which, sore throat, eyes, nose etc. My mucous membranes are ahad due to the many acres of Oil Seed Rape planted upwind, and Blackthorn, May, and Birch Pollen. If the government had spent as much money burning the rape with flame throwers as they did persecuting law abiding, hard working smokers I would be a lot happier.

Well they've proved to be about as bloody useful as an ashtray on a motorbike so looks like I'm saying no. (At the moment).

Think I am seeing Rosgirls point of view.

I just love your expressions Karma - I am sooo going to use this tomorrow.

Awwww! don't burn the pretty yellow fields.....

I get them from my Irish/Scottish mother

I think it's purely laziness/complacency/ sheer ignorance when people choose not to vote TBH very little to do with confusion.

 

We will not be compelled to put more than one X in the box if we don't want to so in that respect there is no change ...............the thing is - if you really don't want a particular candidate/party in - you would simply vote (2 &3) for the party closest in it's aims/ethos wouldn't you?

 

I'm glad i started this thread TBH ....................I'm talking myself round.

I think you may be right Garage Joe.  Cameron was second to David Davies in the first  round but the other two were eliminated after the first and second rounds.

 

Ed Miliband was elected on an AV system after trailing his brother through all but the last elimination.

 

(Full story here):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/poli...rendum-tories-labour

 

I will be voting no.  I think we need a change to how we select our government but AV ain't it.

Apart from that ~ anything that upsets Picky Nicky Clegg is ok by me.

am still confused about this. A referendum on something probably 70% of the country dont understand?

Name that tune in one!

It would be ironic if Labour voters, by voting tactically, get Cleggy off the hook with his party, so he can kiss and make up with Dave and go back to being his butler.

 

As someone who's always voted Labour until voting Lib Dem last time, I have the opinion that I don't want to be fooled by Clegg for a second time.

 

I think I'll probably vote in favour as a no vote will kill off electoral reform for decades.

I understand it, but then I'm a political anorak type.

Never..

I think it would be wise to look beyond the immediate political situation.

I think it would be best not to be thinking for or against, Cameron, Clegg and Miliband.

I think it would be wise to view it as a principle of voting  far beyong our current situation which would hopefully produce a more respresentative result for a very long time to come.

I think it is best to think beyond this year, and to consider an improved and more representative system for many years into the future.

Would it mean endless hours of 'Building themselves up' on paper or screen to me tho?

 

I'm not into politics much at all, but did pay attention to Dave and Clegg when they were scouting for votes as my working years have been under a Labour government. Their manifestos promised so much, ok, realistically I think we all realise they promise to deliver the world but the outcome is never as fruitful, however it seems that Dave and his friend with the brown nose have done a complete u-turn on their guarantees?! I would call Dave a right cheeky bastard but I think that's too complimentary.

 

Roy Cropper but with a better haircut?

Best to do what we all will probably do and say F**k it  I for one at this moment in time feel this way. Laymans terms never get told to us here up North.

An anti SNP cliche that never worked, obviously. 

 

If you knew your oats you`d know that Alex Salmond & co are left wing. So left wing they make Labour look like Liberals.  Scottish Labour have lost their teeth because they`re ruled by central Government. No matter what they truly think, they have to and do, bow down to what they say.

The SNP don`t have these constraints. Thank goodness.  

 

Without a doubt, come May, they`ll be back in...

 

Why? 

 

Because it`s now recognised that they`re the only party in Scotland that devotes (while caring for and being involved with national & world wide issues) it`s energy to Scotland and it`s people.  

Their devotion is true and absolute.

 

I`ve been a socialist all of my life and have never voted for any other party. Tempted, at times, to vote Labour, especially during the Thatcher years but stuck with it.  

 

Read their policies. Tartan Tories - pah!     

  

 

 

 

Simply put the voters of this  great nation find it hard to understand how to put an  "X" in the right place.. (Present company excluded for fear of backlash)

There are some parties I would not even want to come even 3rd 4th or 5th.

I could live with having a second choice (a bit like a revote) but not the AV option.

I have voted no so too late to change my mind

All the more reason you would think Cameron would be all for AV but he is against it so why is he even going for a referendum spending all that money  he is going to look a bit silly if it does get through,Clegg wants it as he knows it is the only way his party will ever be part of a  government again,I dont want coalition governments and I have my doubts after this one will the majority of the country favour coalition.. only three countries in the world use this method one of them want to pull out ..says a lot to me.. I will be voting against it .. better the devil you know...

Is that the Coronation Street character?  If so, yes, a better hair cut - what's left of it! 

 

I certainly don't faff and fuss around like Roy.

 

I occasionally wonder why many of the men in Coronation Street so effete in their mannerisms?  I thought men were supposed to be men oop North, not like 'poncy southerners'

Ah yes but Peter Mandelson is as keen as mustard on it, a very good reason to vote against.  I am against everything that man stands for.

Carnelian! Not many of us can act! Just getting two thousand people to clap in time while singing, "we're Miiddlesbro' is a major job involving much rehearsal. Being able to talk, move, and not look down Julie's cleavage is a major skill. The 'undred per cent blade Sean Bean can only do so many jobs.

I think that under the AV system people vote in this way:

 

You would put a 1 for the candidate you want to win.

If that is the only candidate you want, then you don't do anything else. It's only if you want to have a second choice that you would then put a 2 for the second choice. And if you want a third choice then you would put a 3 for that choice.

 

So if everyone voted just for their candidate of choice, the result is the same as the present system.

 

The real question is just what proportion of voters would have a second choice and if so which party would they vote for. Other than the main parties, the Greens could get quite a few second choices, and quite a lot of Conservatives could have UKIP as a second choice. I would not expect many would vote BNP as a second choice though.

Who's Julie?  I'm going to have do some googling as I assume it's a Coronation Street character or actress.

 

Julie Goodyear who plays a woman playing a man playing a woman?

Julie Carp who is a character or plays a character?

Julie Hedsmondsalgh (or something like that) who plays Hayley?

 

I would have thought that if the role required all those things then also including slightly effete, but not outrageously camp mannerisms into the character would be a bit of an additional headache.  Craig Charles was never camp on Red Dwarf, but whenever I've seen him on Coronation Street it's all expressive hand gestures, arched eyebrows and camp little witticisms.  Likewise for Steve and a few others.

 

Anyway, I'm digressing

Was it on here I read the joke or somewhere else...about the irony of a referendum to change the voting system under the first past the post way?

To digress further......... I may have got the name wrong but I thought that Julie was Eileen's sister, and is the one who thrusts her cleavage in everyone's face.

I tend to agree.  Pre general election I'm sure most Labour voters would have gone for the Lib Dems without hesitation, but I really can't see that happening now. 

 

The way I see it is like this

 

Labour = Most likely Green, maybe UKIP, less likely Lib Dems, BNP

Tory = Most likely LIb Dems, maybe UKIP, less likely BNP

Lib Dem = Most likely Tory but also Labour, then Green

Green = Most likely Labour, then Lib Dem

BNP = Most likely UKIP, then Tory or Labour

UKIP = Most likely Tory, then BNP or Lib Dem

From my research, it looks as if this is Julie Carp. Am I right? 

 

 

 

I think with Tory voters, the right wing ones would have UKIP as their second choice and the left wing ones Lib Dems.

 

Of course we are looking at England here. The voting patterns elsewhere would be different.

Indeed.

I voted no in postal vote