Ben's PR can go but Corin needs to stay for financial reasons 

Get a grip

And what's wrong with pasta might I ask? 

I did like Mario, but I agree about the Ben Dover Devotion, and I didn't like his reaction to being up for eviction.

But, you better shurrup about lovely Corin, or else!!!

Loves Ben but sniggers, quite loudly

Or else what?

Chinese burns?

....oh. Right you are, I'll take Corin off my hit list for now.

I like Mario.
There's no stalking going on; it is all quite transparent and mutual I would say.
I like their fondness for each other. It is more pleasing than some of the vile relationships in the house.

Couldn't agree more.

I hate the fact he stands up for somebody that is clearly in the wrong..  and has even admitted that is the case

as for the stalker thing,  increasingly I find his strokes linger just that bit longer each time and go on for just that bit too long as well  and more and more am I reminded of the late night Craig and Anthony cringey / icky feeling I got whiel wathcing them together ..

Ben is only interested in the  fact somebody is  paying  him attention.. like an invisible servant type thing..  he rarely looks at Mario in the face and uses him as a shield when he needs support..  and a Mirror Mirror on the wall when he needs telling he is the fairest fo them all. .

it is getting very Creepy  and cringey now..

I find that describes Dave perfectly, not Mario

it describes how watching  both of them make me feel tbh Fairfax..

I think I have been watching too much LF. . 

I am not a fan of Mario's  constant whining at how hard he worked to get in the house so please keep me in which replaced his please don't kick me out whining when he was the Mole.. 

he's too desperate sounding   for everything   .. be it staying int eh hosue or his 'lurve' for Ben  and his morbid stuff is dodgy too. .

not feeling him at all. .bit of a weirdo 

Now I'm jellus Mount O

Mario is meh.


I'm in the minority here for liking Josie and Nathan.

Don't be

 if you watch and LUT it too,  after 2 weeks it gets completely tiresome and ALL the HM's become a right pain in the ass cos you kinda live with them all the time.. more than some of the other  HM's do, if they keep to separate rooms a lot 

and call  me Olly . .everybody else does. . 

Olly it is then

Hi Olly 

It is very obvious you don't like Mario.

Strangely - or perhaps not so strangely - the very reasons you dislike him are the reasons I do like him.
The slightly longer strokes, for instance are what happens as people become more familiar with each other. You want them to be briefer, while I want them to be longer. (Personally I see no comparison with Craig and Anthony.)
Another example is you see him as "too desperate" whereas I see him as the least desperate and the least idiosyncratic of all the housemates.
I find Mario alright and I don't think his relationship with Ben is creepy or cringey.
For me, it's perhaps the best thing about this series.
(I think I noticed in a LUT earlier today that you admitted a little bias.    I dare say as long as we are aware of it, we can cope.)
I think we can say is what this shows is that our opinions, tastes, instincts etc are
entirely subjective, and as such are often not going to agree with somebody else's.
We'll agree to differ about Mario eh? 

heya Brisket

I type what I see (and add what I  feel sometimes)  at the time it is happening. . if I am getting the same deja vu 'oh no stop you are going too far' feelings that I got with Craig then I say it occasionally in the LUT and have said it here.... ..   I don't hate any of them, they all  drive me mad at one time or another..  I report what they are doing and don't miss out good or bad bits of any HM's..  if I can help it..


errmmm there are boundaries that don't get crossed in friendships.. Mario is starting to cross them a bit  into relationship ground and getting too clingy with it ,. . I don't believe Ben wants them to go further than they are, as much as you want them too   he just wants an aly around him and Mario is giving him that

No I said pull me up if it looks like I am being Biased in my reporting of the facts.. [not in my opinion]  

and yeah we'll have to  agree to differ 

Well he's a big boy. If that's the case he can say so.

Hi Olly 
Of course neither of us, or any other, can truly say what is going on in the heads of Ben and Mario - not for certain. I've always had the impression their relationship was quite open and mutual.

We obviously don't see this situation in the same way.  Good thing we have a sensible forum for expressing that eh?

Me too I would say its supportive rather than pervy.

Brisket

for me it's all in the eyes. . and Bens are normally looking to the floor or at himself in the mirrors as he checks his hair .. he doesn't even seem to notice Mario half the time unless he needs comforting 

who said anything about pervy..

Cringeworthy yes. .  mispalced over fondles yes..   pervy no ..

Olly.  I've just had a 'vision'  of you cringeing    at the very same moment as I am smiling and saying "aawww". 

Rawky...if you have Corin on your hitlist there's a wedgie coming your way

hahahaha. . 

it's more an noooo stop now the next one will be one too many. .  cos I can see his eyes change to a slightly different look  that Ben is totally oblivious to. .

tbh I think Ben may well reject/ignore/lose interest in  him outside [for all his loyal to his friends talk. .he has so many 'friends' that  I've gathered  from his talks in  there but they sound more mate/acquaintances than real friends ] and Mario  is fragile enough as it is..  he's already talked about not wanting to go this week cos he has no one to go home to... do you see what I mean?

and Ben is just so Blazé about stuff/life in general  he may just forget about his buddy once BB is over.. which would hurt Mario a lot ..

Ha! I'm one step ahead of you as I'm going commando right now

OMG, get that image out of my head NOW!!!.

*fetches camera*

Olly this was a passing reference to those who have been likening Ben/Mario to Craig/Anfonee.