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ben wasn't immune from bitching squiggle
Yes he did like a little bitch didn't he?  Somehow it was never vicious or nasty as in some of the stuff directed at him though.  That's my opinion, you may very well have a different one.  I am just glad he is away from them now, I certainly wouldn't want to mix with any of them but I would be delighted to spend time with Ben.  Funny that they still go on and on about him in the house, and on here too.
squiggle
Reference: Lee
He said last night she was over reacting...IMO it's more the case him as usual picking his targets being the coward he is,imagine if Ben had said these things.
Yes, he chooses his targets well Lee but but I`m not sure if he would have said anything about this..even to Ben. I could be wrong but he really doesn`t seem to be bothered about it.

Right now, Josie`s trying to persuade him to see it her way but he`s not having it.
Scotty
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Yes, he chooses his targets well but but I`m not sure if he would have said anything about this..even to Ben. I could be wrong but he really doesn`t seem to be bothered about it. Josie`s trying to persuade him to side with her right now, but he`s not having it.
Good morning missus...I think he is bothered Scotty,very bothered....He may be having a rethink ,how to best worm around it,must be taxing his brain ,he'd to take to his bed last night with a headache.....Watch today for him shaking the leg,tapping the foot,signs he's aggravated.
~Lee~
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Good morning missus...I think he is bothered Scotty,very bothered....He may be having a rethink ,how to best worm around it,must be taxing his brain ,he'd to take to his bed last night with a headache.....Watch today for him shaking the leg,tapping the foot,signs he's aggravated.
Good morning Granny  I agree he wormed his way out of it last night but wasn`t sure if it was because he wanted to lamp Sam or avoid Josie`s moaning.   This morning, I`m still not sure if he`s bothered about what Sam said. He`s a good actor if he is. I`ll watch out for his shakin leg and tapping foot and get back to.
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Good morning Granny  I agree he wormed his way out of it last night but wasn`t sure if it was because he wanted to lamp Sam or avoid Josie`s moaning.   This morning, I`m still not sure if he`s bothered about what Sam said. He`s a good actor if he is. I`ll watch out for his shakin leg and tapping foot and get back to.
He is worried,very worried....Bear in mind this is the guy who records conversations with his own mum for future reference,has emails etc from friends on memory cards,no wonder he'd a headache last night his mind must be running amok.
~Lee~
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Not one thing Sam has said so far, has been anything but the truth
Tidds, it's his truth, his perception, but not necessarily the truth. There are plenty of folk in there who will say what they think/their truth, (even if it's behind people's back,) however, (and I may be wrong here?) I don't think any of the other hms have suggested that Josie is fake re her feelings towards John James? ...And as for some of the other personal stuff he's said to her, I don't see any virtue in saying things like that, it's just plain bloody nasty imo
FM
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Do you really believe that someone with genuine feelings for a guy in there would pretend to have sex under the duvet and call it 'the money shot?'
You're not answering the question I asked Squiggle and you're making it personal to me I didn't see her saying this, so can't comment, don't know if was tongue in cheek/ a joke etc. What I was asking is if any of the other hms, (rather than a viewer who has gone in and has hardly been there for 5 mins) is suggesting that she is fake ref her expressed feelings towards John James?
FM
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Supercalifragilistic offline 8,161 Forum Posts Today at 11:36 AM Last Edited: Reference: Yes, it was a joke Thought it might be Bliz....no doubt the Josie haters will disagree
Same as the Ben haters would disagree with anything positive said about Ben

For the record, I have no idea if it was said as a joke or not, but it was obviously on her mind for her to have even mentioned it.
Liverpoollass
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Same as the Ben haters would disagree with anything positive said about Ben
I'm not a Beh hater LL, in fact he was possibly my favourite hm this year, (warts and all!) It is amusing  'though when  folk see things in such a black and white way and a hm is viewed as either an  or a  (Makes personal exception for Sam who, at the moment, I am struggling to detect any redeeming features whatsoever)
FM
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You're not answering the question I asked Squiggle and you're making it personal to me
No I'm not!  I'm asking you a genuine question. Josie seems so obviously false to me that I am interested if you see her as genuine in her feelings towards John James.  It is BB's show, they have put Sam in for a reason and to be honest its a reason I agree with. My opinion is that Josie is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the viewer and Sam is on a mission to burst her bubble.  Fair play in my eyes.
squiggle
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Supercalifragilistic offline 8,167 Forum Posts Today at 12:11 PM Last Edited: Reference: Same as the Ben haters would disagree with anything positive said about Ben I'm not a Beh hater LL, in fact he was possibly my favourite hm this year, (warts and all!) It is amusing 'though when folk see things in such a black and white way and a hm is viewed as either an or a (Makes personal exception for Sam who, at the moment, I am struggling to detect any redeeming features whatsoever)
I didn't mean you being a Ben hater Super, it was just a general comment regarding the Ben haters on here   Ben was my favourite HM this year, but I am able to see his positive and negative sides.  Unfortunately, there are some who refuse to accept that their favourite HM have any negative side to them and are perfect   Support your favourite HM by all means, but accept that they have faults like any human being
Liverpoollass
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Supercalifragilistic offline 8,168 Forum Posts Today at 12:13 PM Last Edited: Reference: For the record, I have no idea if it was said as a joke or not, but it was obviously on her mind for her to have even mentioned it. I'm interested as to when he she said it i.e. was it before or after he suggested that she would sell her story to the press?
Oh blimey Super, now you're asking something.  I think it was before, but don't quote me on that.
Liverpoollass
Sam has been slagged off practically every day since last Friday, when he wasn't chosen to be a housemate. .  He's obviously been watching and observing them all, so even if his comments are hitting hard, doesn't mean to say he's being disingenuous about the way they are all being portayed.    Rather than get annoyed with him, they should all be sitting up and taking note, because every single one of them, has worried about how they're being seen.   For the record, just because you don't like a HM and voice it in here, doesn't make anyone a hater (I hate that word)   Personally I don't like Josie,  although  I did at first, before she started, thinking she was all that!
FM
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No I'm not!  I'm asking you a genuine question. Josie seems so obviously false to me that I am interested if you see her as genuine in her feelings towards John James.
Yes you were Squiggle, my post was about what the housemates think, not what I think and you made it personal to me, (and not for the first time I might add !)
For the record, I have stated many times that I think Josie has genuine feelings for John James. Do I think that she'll sell a story to the press? Yeah, most probably, like most of them do. Do I think that is her sole motivation for developing a relationship with him, no I don't.
FM
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Sam has been slagged off practically every day since last Friday, when he wasn't chosen to be a housemate. . He's obviously been watching and observing them all, so even if his comments are hitting hard, doesn't mean to say he's being disingenuous about the way they are all being portayed. Rather than get annoyed with him, they should all be sitting up and taking note, because every single one of them, has worried about how they're being seen. For the record, just because you don't like a HM and voice it in here, doesn't make anyone a hater (I hate that word) Personally I don't like Josie, although I did at first, before she started, thinking she was all that!
squiggle
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Yes you were Squiggle, my post was about what the housemates think, not what I think and you made it personal to me, (and not for the first time I might add !) For the record, I have stated many times that I think Josie has genuine feelings for John James. Do I think that she'll sell a story to the press? Yeah, most probably, like most of them do. Do I think that is her sole motivation for developing a relationship with him, no I don't.
That's now how my post was intended and if that is the way that you interpreted it then I am sorry for that.  As I said I see her as fake and if you do not then you are of course entitled to your view, as am I.
squiggle
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just because you don't like a HM and voice it in here, doesn't make anyone a hater (I hate that word)
I agree Tidds, big difference between not liking and expressing that and hating someone, but some folk do openly use the word hate about a hm and, in Josie's case, also words like fat slag, Miss Piggy etc. etc.
FM
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It is BB's show, they have put Sam in for a reason and to be honest its a reason I agree with.
that's fair enough.....if it applied to all h/mates.......would you for instance be in agreement if ben was still in there and sam was  name calling him going on about his hair etc?or saying 'you're only in here ben to try and get a break in america?'..
SS
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that's fair enough.....if it applied to all h/mates.......would you for instance be in agreement if ben was still in there and sam was name calling him going on about his hair etc?or saying 'you're only in here ben to try and get a break in america?'..
If that had happened, he would have been called one of Josie's minions, as people seem to think she has this amazing power over people's minds!
Blizz'ard
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There's a reason for that,
I'm sure there is Squiggle,
a) because it's a reincarnation of the Freddy fan club/ a SIT
b) because people are still talking about Ben, in the house, in there and in other Gaga threads, hence my reply to your post: "Funny that they still go on and on about him in the house, and on here too"
FM

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