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My Aunts are still sporting the dark lip liner look (some of them even use black kohl pencils). It's such an unattractive look, its all about Victoria Secrets lip gloss these days, but they wont listen to me. Whenever I've done the over made-up look I end up looking 'lady-boy'. One time I got a little crazy with some glitter and my husband said I looked like a fairy had been sick all over me 
suzybean

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