Dreadful times, but apparently fewer children are dying violent deaths today than at any time since records began. So why do we fear the issue more than ever?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/soci...ildprotection-bulger
Imagine if we were living in Fallujah?
Ahh balls Renton....I'd managed entirely to never find out that stuff til now *gouges eyes out*
Sorry 
I tried to warnage
I tried to warnage
Mary Bell also inflicted horrific injuries on one of the little boys privates....She also carved the letter M on their bodies apparently.
My friend came into contact - direct care - of Mary Bell
She said,
"She just looked like any 60yr old woman in the street. but she was a nervous wreck on the verge of a break down"
hmmmmmmm
She said,
"She just looked like any 60yr old woman in the street. but she was a nervous wreck on the verge of a break down"
hmmmmmmm
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My friend came into contact - direct care - of Mary Bell She said, "She just looked like any 60yr old woman in the street. but she was a nervous wreck on the verge of a break down"
Mary Bell may look 60 but she's 52
What?....Talk about friends in high places dealing with those granted lifetime anonymity..... Next she'll have been in contact with Maxine Carr or has she already.
Well i dunno any other details - dunno wots she looks like, where she is, age, name. location etc etc . . .
Thats fairly anon
Thats fairly anon
Blimey Renton - your friends keep real bad company
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Blimey Renton - your friends keep real bad company
Don't diss Renton.
I'm waiting for him to tell us what Peter Sutcliffe is really like. 
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Blimey Renton - your friends keep real bad company
Walters friends are in high places.
Renton....
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Child killers with a perverse sexual motive - it beggars belief that any with such depravity can be wholey rehabilitated. And i wonder if they should have the chance after such a crime.
I really don't understand this statement from you Renton. You have told us that you are working in this area, and have been in contact with the killers.If you don't believe in rehab. What are you doing working in it?
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oh blimey Liver I remember when that lad was shot recently - Rhys? My parents were quite affected by that cos my brother was just the same when he was 11 - totally into football etc... probably just the what if something had happened to him at that age sort of thing
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What are you doing working in it?
SEZIT I work with a lot of different people - not all of them and not directly with such killersReference:renton
not directly with such killers
then i'm sorry but you would not under any circumstances be taken to meet one of james bulgers murderers....or be allowed to know their new identityOk Spongey if that wot you think
i do think renton........you stated you met one of them...you've said you've been to one of their houses and he lives with his mum....you also know robert thompson's new identity.......yet you've just said you're not directly involved.......so.....how on earth did you get to meet one of them at their house and know new identities???
that information is available to a select few only
that information is available to a select few only
There's no point trying to explain as you obviously don't beleive me - anything i say will be rediculed. So no further comments - i just thought a little bit of insight might have stimulated the convo - and i can't go into detail - so of course there will be questions .... i won't offfer anymore
no i don't believe you.......none of it adds up renton i'm afraid.......no one but no one is allowed to know who they are/where they live except a select few......and certainly not people who are not directly involved........because if that was the case they'd of been outed a long time ago
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no one but no one is allowed to know who they are/where they live except a select few......and certainly not people who are not directly involved........because if that was the case they'd of been outed a long time ago
Have to say I concur.
I must say I've never been so angered and sickened by anything on Facebook like I have been with this group....
http://www.facebook.com/group....s&gid=2093794261
http://www.facebook.com/group....s&gid=2093794261
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I must say I've never been so angered and sickened by anything on Facebook like I have been with this group....
Don't know what that group's about, but I can guess...Either way, it appears to have been removed.
Sponge + Lee - well its best i avoid you both, pointless chatting if you think i'm a liar
Those Christian type people must have a bit of a dilemma with this one as redemption is obviously available for everyone. So, if one of these blokes 'found god' then would they okay afterall? I wonder if the parole board takes stuff like that into account?
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'Hitherto there were only a handful of people involved in his care: a probation officer, a senior probation officer, a police officer and someone at the Ministry of Justice, plus Renton and his friend.'
I'm just reading this thread now.Blizzie, that has just cracked me up! Re. Renton and his friend.
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Don't diss Renton. I'm waiting for him to tell us what Peter Sutcliffe is really like.
omg hahahaha! 
I jus choked then!
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just been looking at the news & seen this
I've just been reading that on the AOL main page, completely different accusations than the original story was
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Sponge + Lee - well its best i avoid you both, pointless chatting if you think i'm a liar
A better idea may well be to read back over YOUR own posts and see the glaring inconsistencies which simply don't add up....That aside it beggars belief that such sensitive information/contact would be available to anyone other than a select few senior employees.
I hope he rots in prison. The fact that they were so young when they committed the crime means nothing to me. They knew exactly what they were doing. They managed to entice that little baby from outside that shop then they made him walk miles, even managing to lie to people on route that they were taking him home. Before they tortured and killed him. Even after he was dead they weren't happy, leaving his body on a train line to make it look like he had been hit by a train.
They were never really punished for it. They were looked after better than they had ever been and then allowed to continue on with their lives when they turned 18.
My son was the same age as Jamie was when he died and I know he would have cried for me all the time he was being marched to his death. So I will continue to save my tears for Jamie and his family and not for Venables and Thompson.
They were never really punished for it. They were looked after better than they had ever been and then allowed to continue on with their lives when they turned 18.
My son was the same age as Jamie was when he died and I know he would have cried for me all the time he was being marched to his death. So I will continue to save my tears for Jamie and his family and not for Venables and Thompson.
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So I will continue to save my tears for Jamie and his family and not for Venables and Thompson
Well said.....The punishment should fit the crime and imo in all cases mentioned in this thread it certainly did not.Reference:Longcat and Lee
Reference: So I will continue to save my tears for Jamie and his family and not for Venables and Thompson Well said.....The punishment should fit the crime and imo in all cases mentioned in this thread it certainly did not.
I absolutely agree with both of you Longcat and Lee. I honestly think the snivelling liberals that keep shouting about the "Human Rights" of all the perpetrators of the horrific crimes that have been mentioned in this thread should let the murderers live with them and their famlies if they are so rehabilitated. I have always said, "Human Rights" are for human beings,like Denise Bulger (as was)and all the famlies of the victims, not for evil, vicious scum that we have been discussing.
I've read the whole thread and thought about it and the conclusion I've drawn is that I too wholeheartedly agree with Longcat,Lee and Sezit. My compassion stays with that poor little boy and his family and his murderers can rot in hell
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They managed to entice that little baby from outside that shop then they made him walk miles,
Not forgetting that they had earlier that day tried unsuccessfully to abduct another youngster from the shopping centre. They knew what they were doing alright.
The Sun.....has published that the offence that caused Venables to be re-arrested was a *Serious Sexual Offence*......
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I honestly think the snivelling liberals that keep shouting about the "Human Rights" of all the perpetrators of the horrific crimes that have been mentioned in this thread should let the murderers live with them and their famlies if they are so rehabilitated.
Snivelling liberals? Well, so much for the mature debate.
Human rights are for humans. The clue is in the name, really.
It's interesting that the one of the two that is now in trouble had the "lesser" part in the crime etc.Have the pitchfork bunch not wondered how the other is doing at all.
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Human rights are for humans. The clue is in the name, really.
I beg to differ....