Now that was well said! I don't particularly like John, but it needed to be said and he did it!
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John always tells it like it is...he's a great HM.
It didn't need saying. It's got f*ck all to do with him. He's basing his opinion on a few edited HLs she's basing her feelings on 10 solid weeks. We may not agree with the people that others love but it's their mistake to make.
Maybe it did need to be said, but not by him, not at that time and not in that manner- it was just cruel and messing with her head. same as he was cruel and insensitive with Chantelle
On this occasion I have to agree Vid, I was getting so fed up with that woman's non stop self interest and the pretence over her love life... I can't imagine what it must be like to live with it in the house!
John hasn't a clue. He has watched on TV and formed an opinion.
Disgusting behaviour messing with Josies head like that. It's nobodys business but John James and Josie .............they are the only two who know what's really going on.
He's one despicable man.
Disgusting behaviour messing with Josies head like that. It's nobodys business but John James and Josie .............they are the only two who know what's really going on.
He's one despicable man.
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He's one despicable man.
I felt that about JohnJames - exactly the same.Nasty nasty individual.
Who cares, she's buggered orrff now anyway, and we won't see her or that arse JJ on this BB again..joy!
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kattymieoww 9,285 Forum PostsToday at 9:57 PM Last Edited: Who cares, she's buggered orrff now anyway, and we won't see her or that arse JJ on this BB again..joy!
Agree Katty, it's actually getting quite good now!
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It didn't need saying. It's got f*ck all to do with him. He's basing his opinion on a few edited HLs she basing her feelings on 10 solid weeks. We may not agree with the people that others love but it's their mistake to make.
He was spot on as was Nadia.
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but it needed to be said and he did it!
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John hasn't a clue. He has watched on TV and formed an opinion.
As did everyone including all of us,as did those who declared how in love they were,same show on tv ,different opinions.
As Josie said in the dr: they know more about John James and I than I f'ing do.... If he wanted to kindly tell her his opinion, in a way that might be helpful to her, he should have done it in an entirely different way. But then 'sensitive' seems to be a word that's missing from his vocabulary. Wonder what his wife feels about what he just said on national TV about his adultery?
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As did everyone including all of us,as did those who declared how in love they were,same show on tv ,different opinions.
But why does he feel he has the right to spout off to her? it has nothing whatsoever to do with him (or Nadia). They've achieved their aim ...........she's walked. Horrible, horrible man IMO.Reference:
As did everyone including all of us,as did those who declared how in love they were,same show on tv ,different opinions.
I assume that most of those on here wouldn't have told her in such a brutal way that he didn't love her/care about her 'though?
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I felt that about JohnJames - exactly the same. Nasty nasty individual.
Yep, spot on
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I assume that most of those on here wouldn't have told her in such a brutal way that he didn't love her/care about her 'though?
i assume most of us really don't know whether he loves her or not.Call me an old fool but he's said that he does over and over again. I personally don't see it going the whole hog but they are two people who have feelings for each other and that's good enough for me.
i find it disturbing that people actually relish seeing someone tear someone elses dreams and hopes apart. There really was no need,
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i find it disturbing that people actually relish seeing someone tear someone elses dreams and hopes apart. There really was no need,
Yes, much better to let her latch on to a self-centred ignorant mysoginist who talks down to her all the time repeatedly telling her how he's intelligent and she's thick. Yes, good idea, let's do that instead.Reference:
i assume most of us really don't know whether he loves her or not.
Soozy, fwiw I do think that they love each other, whether it's 'healthy' is another matter and something that they'll need to sort out of the glare of the cameras. My comment was directed at the fms who don't think he loves her and I'd hope that, given the opportunity, they wouldn't have been cruel enough to tell her in the way that John, (and Nadia) did
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i find it disturbing that people actually relish seeing someone tear someone elses dreams and hopes apart. There really was no need,
The problem is that you could say exactly the same about the likes of Davina who have relentlessly played-up the whole "house romance" thing. She has seen no more of the real goings-on than John McCririck, so what right does she have to go on and on about how they feel about each-other, and (for example), shout-down people on BBBM who dare to suggest that it's not real? IMO, that sort of behaviour is just as damaging...
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It didn't need saying. It's got f*ck all to do with him. He's basing his opinion on a few edited HLs she's basing her feelings on 10 solid weeks. We may not agree with the people that others love but it's their mistake to make.
A fair comment to make if she hadn't spent the entire series bringing him and their non-relationship into every conversation at every given opportunity. She has relentlessly droned on about him since early June and worked him into almost every conversation. Eventually someone was going to tell her what they thought instead of massaging her ego.
She made it his business by doing what she always does, trying to make her relationship the centre topic of conversation.
Well said, Keenviewer. I think Josie raised JJ - I can understand John and Nadia not wanting to engage in further pretense. Although honesty can be painful, sometimes you have to tell it like it is. I think Josie's departure from the house is more to do with some recognition that they may be right. To be fair to John, he also told Josie was a lovely woman and would find many admirers outside the house.
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Carnelian 759 Forum PostsToday at 10:35 PM Last Edited: Reference:longcat It didn't need saying. It's got f*ck all to do with him. He's basing his opinion on a few edited HLs she's basing her feelings on 10 solid weeks. We may not agree with the people that others love but it's their mistake to make. A fair comment to make if she hadn't spent the entire series bringing him and their non-relationship into every conversation at every given opportunity. She's relentless droned on about him since early June and worked him into almost every conversation. Eventually someone was going to tell her what they thought instead of massaging her ego.
Spot on Carnelian. Josie has had the same advice from Coolio, Nadia and finally John, perhaps Coolio was the most diplomatic, but nevertheless the point was made. John said that JJ was lukewarm. He didn't badmouth Josie. She has difficulty with feedback that doesn't feed her ego.Reference:
She has difficulty with feedback that doesn't feed her ego.
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watcher1 684 Forum PostsToday at 10:39 PM Last Edited: Well said, Keenviewer. I think Josie raised JJ - I can understand John and Nadia not wanting to engage in further pretense. Although honesty can be painful, sometimes you have to tell it like it is. I think Josie's departure from the house is more to do with some recognition that they may be right. To be fair to John, he also told Josie was a lovely woman and would find many admirers outside the house.
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Prometheus 2,161 Forum PostsToday at 10:43 PM Last Edited: Reference: She has difficulty with feedback that doesn't feed her ego. Yep, that's why the silly cow left the house
Couldn't have put it better myself Prom!
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Eugene's Lair 2,218 Forum PostsToday at 10:31 PM The problem is that you could say exactly the same about the likes of Davina who have relentlessly played-up the whole "house romance" thing. She has seen no more of the real goings-on than John McCririck, so what right does she have to go on and on about how they feel about each-other, and (for example), shout-down people on BBBM who dare to suggest that it's not real? IMO, that sort of behaviour is just as damaging...
Totally agree Eugene's, the truth needed to come out... the fact is that the other housemates didn't shoot John or Coolio or Nadia down in flames... they had all watched it on tv and formed opinions too!
If she thought he was talking crap she'd have just told him to bugger off or had it out with him in an argument, which we know she's very capable of escalating when she thinks she's right. She knows he's right, though.
They'd look a right bunch of two-facers if they didn't answer with their true feelings.
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Although honesty can be painful, sometimes you have to tell it like it is.
Why when it is absoloutely nothing to do with them? And is it honesty or simply their opinion?Some people relish in shit stirring pure and simple. Nothing needed to be said - Josie is more than capable of finding out whether it's real or not in her own time. Nobody needed to say anything.
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John always tells it like it is...he's a great HM
Yeh he says what needs to be said, even if it is to his own detriment.
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~Cosmopolitan: Coolio's Cutie #5~ 6,685 Forum PostsToday at 10:49 PM Last Edited: They'd look a right bunch of two-facers if they didn't answer with their true feelings.
Exactly!
Josie makes it their business by constantly seeking reassurance and her needy desire for everyone to massage her ego.
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Why when it is absoloutely nothing to do with them?
As Ulrika tried to explain, having a relationship in the public eye is actually everyone's business.
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ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ 7,539 Forum PostsToday at 10:52 PM Last Edited: Reference: Why when it is absoloutely nothing to do with them? As Ulrika tried to explain, having a relationship in the public eye is actually everyone's business.
Good point, Spidey!
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As Ulrika tried to explain, having a relationship in the public eye is actually everyone's business.
Of course it is. It's not as if she's underplayed it. If she could have a neon sign with "John James is my boyfriend" attached to her, she would.
Jeeze! If you don't want to know then don't ask! It's quite simple, really.
She's got ears - she'd already had unfavourable comments about him.
Why keep bringing up the subject if you don't want to hear the answer?
She's got ears - she'd already had unfavourable comments about him.
Why keep bringing up the subject if you don't want to hear the answer?
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Why when it is absoloutely nothing to do with them? And is it honesty or simply their opinion?
You really do go to extraordinary lengths to pointlessly argue with people. It has everything to do with them and anyone else who watched BB that's the whole point of the show. They gave their opinion, are you saying they were lying? What reason do they have to lie?
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Maybe it did need to be said, but not by him, not at that time and not in that manner- it was just cruel and messing with her head. same as he was cruel and insensitive with Chantelle
Totally agree Supes