I can't stand him, but I agree, totally!

good stuff dont try and get in my bunker just to light small fires

I would never do that, Gyps!

And I don't have stink bombs in my pocket, either!

I always thought he was genuine about Josie never been sure if she was genuine about him until last night her tears were genuine IMO,.he had two sides to him a nice side and a horrible side I liked the nice side but hated the horrible side.

shares Gyps bunker 

yayyy ...keep an eye on blizzie though....if she goes for the pockets rugby tackle her.

good post Marg and nice to see you 

I have thought for a long time his feelings for Josie are real. He saw something in her that he likes, If he had met her in a club he probably wouldn't have looked twice. But in there he got a chance to know her totally warts and all and fell for her. I think she will be good for him.

Does anyone think he doesnt let anyone close to him, but she managed to sneak close to him under his radar?  Thats my theory.

No, Josie is the monster.

John James is quite a lot messed up IMO.

Hi MrsH good to see you too

I think he's shy and uncomfortable with women but I think once Josie comes out and smooths her man over she will be able to mould him into anything she wants

although others will not agree I think Davina had him worked out to a T - her interview was spot on - he was well out of his comfort zone in that enclosed studio during the interview but did well 

i've always thought his feelings for josie were genuine.

you can still have genuine feelings and remain a prat tho.

I liked the interview,it was as good as could be expected, he looked terrified.

i love the saying smooth you over too   and agree with marguerita about the nice and nasty side, i think with a bit of reflection he might turn a bit nicer.

you can still have genuine feelings and remain a prat tho.


yeah he is a prat, but i think hes not that bad, hes a mess. Hopefully he will see how he is on tv and change because of it

probs  just needs to grow up gyps, i'm not crossin my fingers  or holding my breath.

only once he accepts that his nasty side ain't big and it ain't clever..  and stops being so proud about that side of himself too. .which to me is the most prominent side of his character  and the thing that gives him the most pleasure.. .. sadly

I do think he does have feelings for Josie. .but til he sorts his attitude out I think she should run a mile cos inevitably it will also come back on her down the line more and more [like his mother cops it too but then she probably never told him that wasn't a nice way to behave when he was growing up.]  and she won't always be able to control him once the first flush of 'blind to/ignore all faults' lust wears off

Still can't get my head around how someone could be attracted to someone with such an appalling personality trait .. but hey ho suppose it takes all types... 

I said the very same thing last night gyps. He's not all bad. He's a young man who's lost his dad not so long ago. I can understand his anger and lack of tolerance towards people. Josie is just what he needs right now.

Yep I agree with the OP, although I do think his head`s been f...ed up somewhere along the line and needs therapy.  I think Josie recognised his vulnerability and loves him but I think she`s probably taken on a charge.   If he`s suffering from what I think, he`ll avoid like hell women who are in any way `flighty` - I think he feels secure with Josie.  I can understand him being repulsed by someone like Rachel 1.  He needs security.

Is he an only child or the only boy?

I think he the only child moonbeams, and couldn't agree more with what you said.

Nah i have high hopes for him. Not many people who 'change' have such a wake up call as a whole nation calling them a wanker so i reckon and hope he will get the message. It could have been the saving and making of him

agree with all of that too

josie is obviously completely head over heels for him..........i reckon he's genuine......the last few days in bb he opened up more and last night he was asked if he'd 'break her heart'.....he said 'no'.........i do think he needs to sort himself out.........davina jokingly mentioned he should get anger management and he said 'yeah i've been told that before'.........if he stays the way he is then he could make not only josie's life miserable but his own too........but she seems to love him whatever.......

i also disagree josie is 'a monster' as someone described her earlier in the thread.....she's not murdered anyones grandmother and their dog

No.  Josie should stay as far away from him as possible 

Both awful so best they stay together and not inflict themselves on other unsuspecting people.

Oggbad

missed this earlier - you never miss an opportunity 

Me too Gyp they love each other. As for the future who knows, in any new relationship it's only time that tells whether couples stay together or not, in BB as well as in real life. They're happy with each other at the moment though

I think Josie likes the fact someone really likes her. It's probably the same for JJ who finds it hard to form relationships due to the unfortunate fact he is a complete and utter twat.  I also think he's gay. I think there is a friendship there, but love? No chance, not even close.

I soooooooooo should have added that to the title of the Shack.

I do think he is genuine about Josie, she handles his arsey side brilliantly, and he respects that about her.

I don't think he is a monster..... just a mardi arse, who became mardier because he found the house hard to deal with. 

yes but TBH - both Josie and JJ1 seem to be needy peeps with their own demons and i honestly think what happens in the next two weeks is vital - Josie will move on and i don't think JJ1 will cope - she will come out and he will be back in Australia - A vicious circle methinks

She isn't the nicest person either, so mayby like attracts like.

I think there's a really nice guy in there trying to get out.

And if you believe that......

All down to personal taste. I think she's been very genuinely lovely most of the time.