Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Thank Bog! If it had been the political philosopher I don 't know what I would have done.
Much the same age though.
So he's the "unnamed children's presenter in his 80's".
Not Stuart Hall surely
It's a funny old game.
I vaguely remember something about Stuart Hall years ago, I just can't remember what it was he was questioned over 
A police spokesperson had earlier said of the arrest: "An 82-year-old man from Wilmslow in Cheshire has this morning been arrested by Lancashire Police at his home address on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.
"The man will be interviewed at a police station during the course of the day. The allegations are historic. We are not prepared to discuss further."
Stuart Hall is perhaps best known for his presenting duties on It's a Knockout from 1972 to 1982.
He was also the original host of Question of Sport, and still contributes to BBC Radio 5 Live.
Hall is renowned for his flamboyant style of commentating, and has claimed to have coined the football phrase "the beautiful game".
He was given an OBE in the Queen's New Year Honours list for services to broadcasting and charity last December
(DS)
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Stuart Hall has been taken to a police station to answer allegations of rape and indecent assault. 
Stuart Hall? I'm trying to think who he is although the name rings a bell
OMG him from it's a knockout 
Yes. I still listen to him on 5live every weekend for the football. He's a great punter with really funny banter.
He is... and I've no idea why but it makes it all the more shocking.
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Stuart Hall has been taken to a police station to answer allegations of rape and indecent assault.
Stuart Hall? I'm trying to think who he is although the name rings a bell
OMG him from it's a knockout
Yes. I still listen to him on 5live every weekend for the football. He's a great punter with really funny banter.
He is... and I've no idea why but it makes it all the more shocking.
I know. Never in a months of Sundays did I think he might be implicated.
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Yes. I still listen to him on 5live every weekend for the football. He's a great punter with really funny banter.
He is... and I've no idea why but it makes it all the more shocking.
As they say in the child protection world: "Be open to believe the unbelievable." JS was pretty obvious, not a million miles away from the stereotypical guy in the dirty mac' hanging around the swings and WCs of the local park.
It's about time the world got their head around the way these people 'groom' their victims, their families, friends and the community/ general public, (if they are in the public eye.)I'd like to think that what's currently going on will help with that, sadly, I rather fear that this may well all backfire.
This current government, with, for one of several examples: their changes to eligibility for CRB and barred list checks re people working with children to "common sense levels" are on the side of the adults, not children. Philip Pullman, for example, was one of the biggest lobbyists for the above changes. He might have remembered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mayne, but, oh no, he and his literary friends seemingly thought that he was innocent, even 'though he pleaded guilty! http://www.faber.co.uk/content/william-mayne-obituary
I do despair sometimes.....30+ years of working in child protection, (there, I've said it!) We thought that we were getting somewhere and currently, it sometimes feels like we're now going backwards to when I was a fresh faced and apparently 'naive' social worker in the early 80s GRRRRRR
It's a dark art these days Supes 
As long as your hearts in the right place 
You're a social worker Supes?
Originally Posted by Saint:
You're a social worker Supes?
Yes, I suppose I still am... still registered as such, although it's been a v long time since I was at the 'coal face.' I've worked for a number of different agencies, (not just Social Care, in fact remarkably little for them in the last 20 years,) I'm a bit 'higher up' these days, ye know, one of the kinda clueless, menopausal ol' woman to which you often refer
Girls in the Stuart Hall case aged between 8 and 17(Sky News)
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Saint:
You're a social worker Supes?
Yes, I suppose I still am... still registered as such, although it's been a v long time since I was at the 'coal face' Am a bit 'higher up' these days, ye know, one of the kinda clueless, menopausal ol' woman to which you often refer
Blimey you're at the helm. You must be meno crazy.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
It's a dark art these days Supes
As long as your hearts in the right place
Oh, my hearts definitely in the right place VD, why else would I have done what I've done for so many years with the passion and commitment I have given to it? See that naive social worker in her 20s up there ^, she was instrumental in putting her first ever boss in prison: a charismatic figure and a 'national expert' in behaviour management of 'disturbed' children. Only problem was, he was shagging them too....25 years he got
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
It's a dark art these days Supes
As long as your hearts in the right place
Oh, my hearts definitely in the right place VD, why else would I have done what I've done for so many years with the passion and commitment I have given to it? See that naive social worker in her 20s up there ^, she was instrumental in putting her first ever boss in prison: a charismatic figure and a 'national expert' in behaviour management of 'disturbed' children. Only problem was, he was shagging them too....25 years he got
Jesus. How long had he been sleeping working with these disturbed children? I'm guessing a while to be labelled a national expert.
Max Clifford is the next one to be arrested. I now officially don't trust any known name of 60 anymore.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Max Clifford is the next one to be arrested. I now officially don't trust any known name of 60 anymore.
Well.. there's a case of 'physician heal thyself' right there. Wonder if he'll come out of it unscathed.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Max Clifford is the next one to be arrested. I now officially don't trust any known name of 60 anymore.
. . . and this is one of my major hates of modern day society!!
The way we are spoon fed fear. We are literally paralysed by it these days
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Jesus. How long had he been sleeping working with these disturbed children? I'm guessing a while to be labelled a national expert.
Yes, many years Jen, can't remember exactly, think he'd have been around his late 50s when he was convicted
Fascinating! If Max ever decides to spill the beans it will keep the scratter papers going for centuries.
wondering if it's because he's withholding information on stuff he knew but didn't tell the police? Then again, who knows
Originally Posted by Pengy:
wondering if it's because he's withholding information on stuff he knew but didn't tell the police? Then again, who knows
That's what I thought too Pengy. How much has he been paid in the past to keep the press at bay?
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Max Clifford is the next one to be arrested. I now officially don't trust any known name of 60 anymore.
Well.. there's a case of 'physician heal thyself' right there. Wonder if he'll come out of it unscathed.
I'm hearing the clattering of the carriage that took Robbespierre to the guillotine
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
wondering if it's because he's withholding information on stuff he knew but didn't tell the police? Then again, who knows
That's what I thought too Pengy. How much has he been paid in the past to keep the press at bay?
Yup my initial thoughts reading he's been arrested too. Covering this stuff up is just as bad doing it imo as that allows it happen again
EDIT; Clifford, 69, from Surrey, was held at 7.40am on suspicion of sexual offences and taken to a central London police station.
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Jesus. How long had he been sleeping working with these disturbed children? I'm guessing a while to be labelled a national expert.
Yes, many years Jen, can't remember exactly, think he'd have been around his late 50s when he was convicted
It's sad to think they can go about their sick business without letting the mask slip for so long quite scarey too.
gawd knows what he's helped to cover up over the years.
Delighted to see action being taken against a big name ,and yes- I agree what has he covered up for others .
I'd be interested to hear if anyone at Stoke Manderville, Broadmoor etc are being questioned.
these big names make great headlines, but they are a distraction from the original story
Big Stars go to Clifford for him to bury stories about them coming out ,I have no doubt they will be shaking in their boots tonight.Clifford knows alot of celebs secrets.
Originally Posted by erinp:
Big Stars go to Clifford for him to bury stories about them coming out ,I have no doubt they will be shaking in their boots tonight.Clifford knows alot of celebs secrets.
Oh... plea bargains and deals with the DA! Can you tell I watch too many American legal dramas...
I never liked Clifford from the first time I clapped eyes on him, It would seem that my gut feeling was not too far out.
It makes me wonder just how many more figures in the public eye are sat at home quaking in their boots?
Interesting read
Originally Posted by Rexi:
I'd be interested to hear if anyone at Stoke Manderville, Broadmoor etc are being questioned.
these big names make great headlines, but they are a distraction from the original story
I totally agree.....It is starting to sound like all people in "Show business" at that time are in question.....
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Rexi:
I'd be interested to hear if anyone at Stoke Manderville, Broadmoor etc are being questioned.
these big names make great headlines, but they are a distraction from the original story
I totally agree.....It is starting to sound like all people in "Show business" at that time are in question.....
this link would suggest so
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Rexi:
I'd be interested to hear if anyone at Stoke Manderville, Broadmoor etc are being questioned.
these big names make great headlines, but they are a distraction from the original story
I totally agree.....It is starting to sound like all people in "Show business" at that time are in question.....
I would just like to ask ....."What were the "Caring" people employed to ensure their charges were secure and happy, doing whilst all these atrocities were taking place?....