I can't ever remember buying into any conspiracy theory before this but I honestly believe this is HUGE - God only knows who is and has been involved in numerous cover ups over the years but this trying to heap the blame on the BBC stinks I think. There are forces at work.

What really angers me is that since some who were abused have spoken out suddenly there's a whole lot of media people, whether tv, or newspaper journalists, all saying they heard rumours, or were told something, or saw something. Soo many people involved and it's taken all these years for them to have the courage to speak up - I don't mean those who were abused at young ages I can understand why they didn't think they'd be believed. Quite frankly I'm now sick of hearing about it and seeing pics of JS on tv news, nothing can change what's happened in the past. What can change for the future is that people like JS who are still alive and abusing young ones are reported the police, not the media.

I watched Panorama tonight and the only question that needed to be answered i.e. why did Peter Rippen pull the Newsnight item, wasn't answered.

I think there's a hell of a long way to go yet. If his hand was forced (which I think it was) we need to know who was putting on the pressure. It all depends on how big the names in the chain are .....................quite possibly we'll never find out. This really is nothing new - the cover ups re paedophile activities have been going on for a long, long time - why have they got away with it?

Makes you wonder.

i'll be seeing Lizards next

It's these fellas you really need to worry about, Soozy...

I feel disappointed that the main question wasn't answered. But, I have noticed that people like Esther Rantzen (I know she wasn't in last nights programme) and Paul Gambocini (sp) remind us every few seconds that they were "very junior" when they first heard rumours about Saviles behaviour. This doesn't excuse them to  me, eventually they became very senior,especially Esther rantzen who when she was "Very junior" was having an affair with a very senior, married, top documentry maker.

George Entwistle is facing the parliamentary committee live on BBC 24 and Sky news. 

...and he's already started to fudge.

Hi Scotty

Watching the programme last night JS audience seemed to be made up of girls from approved schools .Glitter made my skin crawl when he said "So I get Two"

The Newsnight show was pulled to protect high profiled celebs imo.BBC is rotten to the core.

I see Cowell paid 50k of bail money for King

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/deb...99/Simons-shame.html

Yes, he`s bumbling his way through this.

Hi cologne  

Did you see your happy birthday on fb? 

He doesn`t know a lot does he? 

The question "Have you asked who currently at the BBC has had sexual allegations made against them" you would think would be easy to answer.

Oh he knows alright

 He just can`t recall it at the moment.

erin  

It also emerged last night that the BBC ‘censored’ a series of emails that indicated senior executives were involved in  the decision to axe a Newsnight investigation into Savile.

The emails were due to be included in last  night’s Panorama programme but were pulled at the insistence of corporation  lawyers

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...t.html#ixzz2A7E8B6n5 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Since we pay the money for the BBC to keep going I would like to know just why they are paying lawyers to make sure something is kept under wraps, and exactly what that something is.

Absolutely ! This is ridiculous.

emails shown last nights Panorama

Did I hear this correctly?

He said it was entirely Peter Rippon`s decision to pull the programme. Then in a later answer he said Rippon wasn`t pressured by upper management, not inappropriately anyway. 

Louis Theroux‏@louistheroux

          Recommend last night's Panorama about Savile. To answer question: when making doc, I was fairly sure he had a secret but didn't know what.

http://twitter.com/louistheroux

He didn`t enquire further into the reasons for Newsnight`s Savile investigation - it was a busy lunch. 

So he was pressured then

you couldn't make it up

Panorama omits  Newsnight editor Peter Rippon's email blaming a 'long political chain' for  canning probe - Entwistle doesn't know what this means
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...o.html#ixzz2A7Tpgd5C Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Looks like it but the buck stops at Rippon, according to Entwistle.

For now. 

Ah one of the MP`s has just questioned him on those ^^ contradictory statements.

I know.

Catch you later Scotty

Bye for now erin   

Post taken from DS

The post below just appeared on David Icke's forum, on the 'Jimmy Sa-Vile OUTED as a PAEDO OCT 3rd' thread.
23-10-2012, 05:36 PM
Breaking news: Brace, brace, brace! The Times is going to publish the Ben Fellows story complete with names (we hope). We are not sure when but it could be tomorrow or by Saturday at the latest. Thanks to the alternative media this story will now break in the mainstream. Here's a link to a censored before it's news story about Ben Fellows.  com/media/2012/10/murdoch-newspaper-does-a-bbc-to-protect-pedophiles-child-abusers-says-ben-fellows-2447320.html

Ooooooooooh wonder if they'll go with it.A big politician/mp has been named by him. 

Second paragraph down - Ben Fellowes talking about MP.

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/...ember-of-savile.html

*Back in 1978, an organisation called the Paedophile Information Exchange affiliated itself to the National Council for Civil Liberties — known today as Liberty.

PIE — whose members were reportedly attracted to boys and girls — set out to make paedophilia respectable.*

WTF is all that about?!

sorry if its been mentioned already, its a long thread to read

Tears for Fears were right.

It's a mad world.

I read that in my paper .  I don't think it's been mentioned in the thread, could be wrong, it is unbelievably disgusting.

The assumption that paedophilia did not harm a child, and that the only harm was done instead by reporting it to the police, was, of course, grotesque.

Yet during this time, when PIE members were being prosecuted on indecency and pornography charges, the General Secretary of the NCCL was Patricia Hewitt — later to become a Labour Cabinet minister.

A second future Labour minister, Harriet Harman, served as the NCCL’s legal officer for four years from 1978.

  Harman has called the Savile revelations ‘a stain’ on the BBC. Yet while she was at the NCCL she seemed untroubled by its PIE affiliate. Moreover, she campaigned for a liberalisation of child porn laws.

In the NCCL’s response to a Bill that aimed to ban indecent images of under-16s, she stated absurdly that pornographic photographs or films of children should not be considered indecent unless it could be shown the subject had suffered, claiming that the new law could lead to ‘damaging and absurd prosecutions’ and ‘increase censorship’. Embarrassed by this reminder, Harman now insists she never condoned pornography and had merely wanted to ensure the new law delivered child protection rather than censorship.

How disingenuous. For in such liberal circles, freedom unconstrained by any rules at all had become the shibboleth. Not just freedom of expression but — fatefully — freedom to have sex without any constraints.

Any form of sexual activity was seen as a ‘right’ — regardless of with whom you did it. That’s why the NCCL also campaigned to decriminalise incest.

Objectors were damned as prigs, prudes and bigots. Their silence was enforced by the vicious, politically correct demonisation of anyone who tried to blow the whistle on licentious behaviour, which was blessed by liberals and thus deemed to be untouchable.

The result was that in case after case over the years, the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic sexual abuse of children in care homes, principally through the terror of being labelled ‘homophobic’.

Failure

Now we are being told by commentators that the culture which covered up Savile’s abuses belonged to a quite different age, that times have radically changed and paedophilia would no longer be tolerated.

But this is just not true. We know that, over the past 20 years or so, paedophile rings were allowed to perpetrate the organised sexual abuse of girls in the North of England, unchecked by police or council officials.

This failure was due to two things: fear of being thought racist, as the perpetrators were overwhelmingly of Pakistani origin; and indifference to the plight of under-age girls who were in care or otherwise troubled and thus written off as sexualised and promiscuous trouble-makers. Their sexual experiences elicited but a shrug.

It is that last element which surely links all these cases. For while paedophilia has become a word that engenders not just social opprobrium but a degree of hysteria, at the same time Britain has, in effect, turned into a paedophile culture. It accepts — even expects — that the very young will be sexually active.

This is because sex has been redefined as a kind of recreational sport whose sole purpose is physical pleasure. The belief that if it is detached from the context of marriage and children it degrades the human spirit is dismissed as laughable or sinister.

aye

thats the one

ive looked it up and its all true!

i never noticed how odd life was back in 70's!

London Evening Standard.

23 October 2012

Doubt he conned as many as they'd like to make out.

erinp   VIP 

 and it didn't cost me money

BBC covered up Jimmy Savile’s child abuse because he was friends with Prince Charles, claims veteran broadcaster Bill Oddie

Veteran BBC presenter Bill Oddie yesterday backed claims disgraced Jimmy Savile’s abuse was covered up – because he was friends with Prince Charles.

The Springwatch star, who appeared on TOTP with the Goodies when Savile presented it during the 1970s, said there was a “running sick joke” at the BBC about Savile being a paedophile.

He suggested there might have been some sort of “censorship committee” preventing the truth being released because of Savile’s royal connections.

The Prince of Wales and Sir Jimmy Savile in Glencoe in July 1999

The presenter also backed claims made by other former BBC presenters that Savile’s antics were well known at the time.

He said: “The idea that youngsters were prey – everybody knew that.

“I was not surprised at all. And the surprise is in a sense that that didn’t happen years ago.

“The establishment or who ever it is decided to keep it all quiet and decided to give him a knighthood. He was, to a certain amount, a friend of royalty.”

The pair of friends chat happily during the charity trip, where Savile kept a holiday cottage

He added: “I do not know why it took so long to come to light. That is what I am curious about.

“Whether there is somewhere in Britain, some sort of censorship committee that we don’t know about that suppresses these thing and somebody gets together in a room and says ‘come on he was a friend of Prince Charles, it would look awfully bad on Prince Charles if we said he was a bit of a perv’.

“And someone decides ‘yes you are right, we will keep it quiet, nobody will ever find out.’

“I don’t know who that would be.”

Bill Oddie claims the BBC covered up Savile’s sex abuse

Speaking after a question and answer session with students of Cambridge University’s historic debating society – The Union Society – on Tuesday, Oddie said Savile’s reputation was “just taken for granted.”

He said: “There was just this running sick joke that Jimmy Savile pestered the young youths of both sexes.

“It was just taken for granted. It doesn’t mean anyone thought they must do something about it – and it probably wasn’t realised how serious it was – it certainly wasn’t realised to the extent of the hospital – which is horrendous.

“When this came out it was not a surprise at all. The surprise is that it did not come out a lot earlier and the puzzlement is or the question is was it covered up or did people just chose to ignore it or was there an order and if so from whom, by whom and with whom saying we are not going to allow this to get published.

“It does make you think who would you look at. Would you look at the BBC, the police, would you look at the NHS hospital people? Did they all know and didn’t say?”

Oddie revealed there was a “naive groupies scene” at the time.

He said: “This is not a mitigating circumstance obviously, but the only thing I will say is that that was a time in history in television and radio and live shows where there was a sort of naive groupies scene.

“I do not think the girls were incredibly promiscuous, certainly not the younger ones. “There were people who hung around after gigs and tried to get to the stars – or the disk jockeys.

“You haven’t half got a booby prize if you went for Cliff Richard and ended up with Jimmy Savile.”

He added: “The thing that you could not ignore was that it was the era of the sort of groupies.

“Not the heavy groupy, but it was an extension of those shots of the Beatles in the 60s where there is hundreds of girls crying and screaming and god knows what – well that was pretty rife.

“My wife was saying the other day about a friend of hers from way back when they went to see the Monkeys and the girl said I am going to try and get in the dressing room and my wife said ‘he will only want one thing you know’ and she said yes I know that is what I am going for.

“But that is not quite the same thing as a paedophile – that was just rock bands and includes other people I am sure and is due to availability and other things. The 70s was like that.”

Oddie, who started on BBC radio with his show I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again, reiterated claims that former director general of the BBC Mark Thompson must have known what was going on with Savile.

He said: “It is so extraordinary that there is any sort of mystery – when the ex head of the BBC Mark Thompson the other day said ‘I don’t know anything about it’.

“You worked at the BBC and you don’t know anything about it – don’t be ridiculous.

“That is absolute nonsense.”

Oddie claimed Savile “bribed his way out” of getting found out for molesting children in hospital because he was a large donor.

He said: “Anyone of that era knew something – he had a reputation for being a groper.

“The most awful aspect is the idea of molesting kids in hospital – that is just unbelievable. He was sort of bribing his way out of it by giving millions of pounds to the hospital – that is staggering.”

As well as Savile’s contact with children at the BBC, his interaction with sick youngsters at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, in Sussex, and Leeds General Infirmary, is also being investigated.