I wonder if there was any truth in that old Tony Blackburn joke? ( which I can 't repeat on a family forum...... Etc)
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Saint:
We rush to judge
What? He was at it with kids for fifty years ...........is that rushing? Shame no one listened to them back in the day.
Noooo i meant about Freddie Star and forgetting
Or maybe we are believing his alleged victim, at last?
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Maybe it was Blizz, it was on the radio and I would have sworn they said it was Mike Reid, because even Mr C said 'That was Mike Reid? he sounded rough'
Oh right. I haven't heard about that.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I wonder if there was any truth in that old Tony Blackburn joke? ( which I can 't repeat on a family forum...... Etc)
go on do it quicky, leave it a minute and then delete it 
Yes I was that kid who encouraged others to be naughty 'do it do it do it'
I am able to reveal that the main body of the joke surrounded the confusion between an errect penis and a telefunken u47.
No-one will be offended by that.
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Saint:
We rush to judge
What? He was at it with kids for fifty years ...........is that rushing? Shame no one listened to them back in the day.
Noooo i meant about Freddie Star and forgetting
Not as fast as Freddie Starr was off the mark running his mouth off to brand this woman a nutter and a liar, that he'd never been at the BBC, let alone on a Savile show and that his brief "is going to tear her to pieces" last Friday.
Fast forward to yesterday's C4 News showing him at the BBC, on a Savile programme, sat next to his accuser and he finally reigns his judgement in about the woman, shuts his fat gob, and lets his lawyers do all the talking.
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Not as fast as Freddie Starr was off the mark running his mouth off to brand this woman a nutter and a liar, that he'd never been at the BBC, let alone on a Savile show and that his brief "is going to tear her to pieces" last Friday.
Fast forward to yesterday's C4 News showing him at the BBC, on a Savile programme, sat next to his accuser and he finally reigns his judgement in about the woman, shuts his fat gob, and lets his lawyers do all the talking.
Absolutely, Suzy. 
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Saint:
We rush to judge
What? He was at it with kids for fifty years ...........is that rushing? Shame no one listened to them back in the day.
Exactly!
Originally Posted by erinp:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...itch-hunt.html
Mike Smith calls claims of BBC abuse a "witch hunt"
Former Radio 1 DJ Mike Smith has dismissed claims by fellow presenter Liz Kershaw that she was groped on air in the 1980s as "jokes" sparking a witch hunt designed to "smear" fellow presenters.
Mike Smith said the BBC culture Liz Kershaw described was unrecognisable as the place he worked in the 1970s and 1980s Photo: REX/EYEVINE
Talking to DJ Richard Bacon on his Five Live programme this afternoon, the former presenter of the channel's flagship breakfast show said his colleague Kershaw's account of being groped had led to an "epidemic caused by the media."
He said: "There's a danger here that an awful lot of innocent, hard working people are going to be smeared by the comments of Liz Kershaw and particularly Janet Street-Porter in her Daily Mail article.
"This is an epidemic caused by the media; there's not epidemic going on and there wasn't an epidemic at the time.
"This witch hunt has got to stop."
Referring to "practical jokes", he said the culture Kershaw described was unrecognisable as the place he worked in the 1970s and 1980s, and earlier compared her account of being molested by a fellow presenter to men dressing up in drag.
On Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday, Kershaw described Jimmy Savile's alleged abuse of young girls as an open secret, then added that she had been routinely groped herself while live on air.
She said a complaint about her unnamed assailant was met with bafflement, and she was asked if she was a lesbian.
"Round Radio 1 everyone joked about Jimmy Savile and young girls," she said. "The main jokes were about his adventures on the Radio 1 Roadshow. It was massive then.
"When I walked into Radio 1 it was a culture I have never encountered before. I have always said it was like walking into a rugby club locker room and it was very intimidating for a young woman."
"There was one presenter who routinely groped me. I would be sitting in the studio with my headphones on, my back to the studio door, live on air, and couldn't hear a thing except what was in my headphones, and then I'd find these wandering hands up my jumper fondling my breasts," she added.
Street-Porter, writing in the Daily Mail today, accused producers and presenters of encouraging a culture of silence around predatory older men who molested young women, and in some cases young men. "I think they all knew what went on â but they were part of the problem. Jimmy's behaviour was just an extreme example of what was considered perfectly acceptable at the time," she wrote.
Smith had already expressed his views on Kershaw and the BBC abuse scandal on Saturday, writing on his blog: "I knew Liz - in fact I worked with her before she joined the station, making a BT chart rundown telephone service every week. And I was also around when she joined the station.
"I don't know which of the schoolboys stuck his hands where they shouldn't be. And, frankly, I don't know why Liz can't name him. But if this "trick" happened, it was a specific case. In her R4 Today interview she goes on to imply that it was a more general practice.
"It wasn't. I simply don't recognise the culture she describes. R1 was staffed by (mainly) fun people from both sexes (if that matters) and what went on was no different to any other institution or workplace.
"Any chance that some of my male colleagues had to put on lipstick and tight clothes as 'entertainment', they took it.
"Liz says it was like a rugby club. No - it was like a comprehensive school. A uni. A college. Liz - it was life.
He went on to say it was "wrong to generalise from the particular", finally adding: "Liz - you're guilty of that."
Smith later returned to the Radio 5 programme to call on Kershaw to "name names."
He said: "For heaven's sake people wear your heart on the sleeve and tell the truth. We need to hear the whole truth. You cannot make these accusations in public without naming people.
"I am asking her to stand up and name names. That is the courageous thing to do.
"Part of problem with the Jimmy Savile thing is that nobody would stand up and name him so he got away with it for so long... allegedly."
Posted this yesterday ,some are saying it was Mike Reid but it was Mike Smith speaking on live 5 radio programme.
Top class spin from M. Smith. He should get a job as one of those suits in the Con/Lab/Dem party.
Police now investigating 120 lines of inquiry about Savile !!
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Police now investigating 120 lines of inquiry about Savile !!
I just heard that
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Police now investigating 120 lines of inquiry about Savile !!
I just heard that
dirty barsteward 
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Saint:
We rush to judge
What? He was at it with kids for fifty years ...........is that rushing? Shame no one listened to them back in the day.
Noooo i meant about Freddie Star and forgetting
Or maybe we are believing his alleged victim, at last?
Its aboutt investigating - not deciding
Originally Posted by Saint:
Its aboutt investigating - not deciding
I've investigated- found her interview and found it compelling.
Seriously though, I hope it is investigated and other witnesses are found.
Sir Jimmy Savile's grave in Scarborough is to be dismantled following allegations he sexually abused girls.
The undertaker who dealt with his funeral last year said the star's family now wanted the triple headstone at Woodlands Cemetery to be taken down.
The removal of the headstones will take place from first light on Wednesday, the undertaker confirmed.
That humble little gravestone was only unveiled the other week too, shame 
"It was good while it lasted"
hmmmmmmmmmm
Originally Posted by suzybean:
"It was good while it lasted"
hmmmmmmmmmm
There was a spelling mistake on it when it was unveiled
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
"It was good while it lasted"
hmmmmmmmmmm
There was a spelling mistke on it when it was unveiled
What was that? It was good while it lusted?
I have a very strong feeling that deep down JS knew he would be "found out", and that is why he wanted his coffin to buried in concrete so that ghoulish freaks couldn't dig his body up. I know he wore big ugly jewelry, and most people think that he was buried wearing it, but I think it was because of what I have said.
Originally Posted by Sezit:
I have a very strong feeling that deep down JS knew he would be "found out", and that is why he wanted his coffin to buried in concrete so that ghoulish freaks couldn't dig his body up. I know he wore big ugly jewelry, and most people think that he was buried wearing it, but I think it was because of what I have said.
Good point...
A 2007 radio interview with Sir Jimmy Savile in which he denies rumours that he was a child abuser has emerged.
The interview came as Greater Manchester Police said they had received two seperate complaints of sexual abuse relating to the late TV presenter dating back to the 1960s.
They have been passed on to the Metropolitan Police, who have so far recorded two criminal allegations of rape and six allegations of indecent assault against the former Top of the Pops presenter.
Five police forces are involved in the investigation in total.
Charities also say they have received dozens of phone calls relating to the Jim'll Fix It star, who died aged 84 last year.
More follows...
His headstone has been removed and is going into a landfill site. 
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
His headstone has been removed and is going into a landfill site.
That is absolutely gruesome.
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
His headstone has been removed and is going into a landfill site.
That is absolutely gruesome.
Yes. It should be kept well away from all the innocent rubbish.
At least the Savile family have stopped griping and are reacting to growing evidence of wrong doing. To be fair, it can't be that easy for them to come to terms with either.
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
Originally Posted by suzybean:
At least the Savile family have stopped griping and are reacting to growing evidence of wrong doing. To be fair, it can't be that easy for them to come to terms with either.
I agree Suzy, it must be awful for them, like any family that finds out about such a horrible thing. But I agree with them for reasons taking the headstone down. It's not just about him, but the other families of the people that are buried there. Sadly, the idiots who think it would be 'funny' to go and vandalise his headstone might not stop at his headstone.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
Boy Cinds got rushed to Leeds General in the 12 hours he was born, because that was the only hospital close enough to offer a bed to a 12 week premature baby. Despite all of this, I will still donate to Leeds General.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
It's not going to come to that, and I think you know it. The BBC deserves criticism for it's complicity in the whole matter, and as an establishment can handle itself now. If one individual (or several) plays the system, it does not follow that the system is wrong. Savile et al were rogue.
As for Stoke Mandeville (who received a much earned boost from the recent Paralympics) and Leeds General, I imagine that sympathies will go to them rather than against. People, in general, aren't that thick!
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
Boy Cinds got rushed to Leeds General in the 12 hours he was born, because that was the only hospital close enough to offer a bed to a 12 week premature baby. Despite all of this, I will still donate to Leeds General.
Thanks Cinds, there's one tick for seeing the the bigger picture 
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
Boy Cinds got rushed to Leeds General in the 12 hours he was born, because that was the only hospital close enough to offer a bed to a 12 week premature baby. Despite all of this, I will still donate to Leeds General.
Thanks Cinds, there's one tick for seeing the the bigger picture
Suzy I would be a horrible person if I stopped donating to the units that saved my boys life just because a dirty pervert might have once darkened their door.
In addition I was so out of it on Morphine when I arrived at Leeds General, the porter said I could smoke in my room, which I remember thinking 'that's not right'.
I might have been fingered by Jimmy.
Then again I was 25, I was much too old wasn't I.
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Celebs contacting Max Clifford worried where this is going .
Judging by the anti-BBC material circulating, surely it is only a matter of time before people are calling for Leeds General and Stoke Mandeville Hospitals to be shut down for covering up the facts.
They must be worried too.
Boy Cinds got rushed to Leeds General in the 12 hours he was born, because that was the only hospital close enough to offer a bed to a 12 week premature baby. Despite all of this, I will still donate to Leeds General.
Thanks Cinds, there's one tick for seeing the the bigger picture
Suzy I would be a horrible person if I stopped donating to the units that saved my boys life just because a dirty pervert might have once darkened their door.
Exactly. I bet you're not the only person that owes your undying gratitude to them...much more than any the late Savile used to gain recognition and favour in his rogue activities.
Yep! I remember setting out for college one morning, feeling increasingly ill, and ending up in the general. (It turned out to be glandular fever) Before I was repatriated back home, I had mentioned to one of the porters how exciting it must be to be working alongside Jimmy Savile. He left me in no doubt what he thought about him.
My point being that in spite of what wonderful work these hospitals and children's homes have carried out, they did provide accommodation and opportunity for the filthy twat, and it seemed to be fairly obvious that his reputation was known.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Yep! I remember setting out for college one morning, feeling increasingly ill, and ending up in the general. (It turned out to be glandular fever) Before I was repatriated back home, I had mentioned to one of the porters how exciting it must be to be working alongside Jimmy Savile. He left me in no doubt what he thought about him. My point being that in spite of what wonderful work these hospitals and children's homes have carried out, they did provide accommodation and opportunity for the filthy twat, and it seemed to be fairly obvious that his reputation was known.
Your point was noted and duly considered. My point is that Mr. (forget about the Sir and OBE) Savile managed to not only groom numerous innocents, he managed to groom an entire nation, comprising several health authorities, charitable organisations and the corporation of the national non-independent broadcaster. They were all part of a whole, that existed in a time and place that made it easier for this to occur, and for lone voices of dissent to be ignored and derided.
If the BBC (which you seem to have concentrated on in this thread) is going to gain some integrity back from this sorry affair, then it has already begun with the tone of Chris Patten's words and the willingness to cooperate with further investigations.
And LOLzzz at you being repatriated from Leeds to Teeside.