A lot of people around the forums are on Jim and Lionel's side to, and Linda was also trying to calm her down too.

Why is Jim being singled out for criticism?

Because Jim to her to shut up !

Haven't you ever watched BB, and a HM was going on and on and on and you either thought or openly said "SHUT UP"?

Haven't you ever watched BB, and a HM was going on and on and on and you either thought or openly said "SHUT UP"?

Many a time, but I'd never say it in rl to someone

yes!! as a viewer  and that leads me to not want to support the housemate.

As a Hm I would let them do and say whatever they wanted unless it was a personal attack on me .

Who wants to be in a house with someone who dictates the flow conversation.

Don't get me wrong BTW, both Luisa and Dappy were dumb in their argument, but Luisa attacking someone for their "low IQ" just let her down badly.

Is it controlling to want peace and quiet in the house? lol, he led Dappy away from the argument too as he was trying to shut him up too.

He didn't start out by telling Luisa to shut up, he tried talking to her first but she was talking over him and wouldn't stop.

But as "crimes" in the BB house go (if that was a bad thing to do) it really wasn't that high up on the scale of badness...I've heard people on here defend Evander after his "gays can be fixed" comments, so Jim telling that silly woman to shut up after he tried to calm her down but she wouldn't listen, really isn't that bad.

I don't think it did Vids, she tried repeatedly to explain why she felt how she did and his argument back was off the mark every time, indicating he wasn't understanding what she was saying to him... That alone would have been fine but he was following her around... even waiting for her outside the DR trying to listen... I'm interested to see the time frame of this whole debacle

No, not on it's own, but I assume you saw my list?!

List?

He over heard her bitching about him behind his back (I think) and that got him following her round arguing,  BTW I cant believe im sort of defending him on that, but no one likes to find out they are being bitched about.

He over heard her bitching about him behind his back (I think) and that got him following her round arguing,  BTW I cant believe im sort of defending him on that, but no one likes to find out they are being bitched about.

I repeat!....both self opinionated; argumentative; confrontational; big mouths who are so egotistical that they never ever really hear anyone else's point of view. Oh and both prone to sulk and spit their dummies out if they don't perceive that others agree with their pov 

He was listening to her speak in the toilet

After their earlier argument, Dappy and Luisa’s argument continues

Earlier today, Dappy and Luisa argued afterDappy made a sexist comment. However instead of leaving it – the pair continued their argument. In the bedroom, Dappy said: “You said my mum’s going to be ashamed of me, for what reason?!”

“She should be ashamed”

“She’s going to be ashamed because she taught me that males can’t do certain things that females do and females can’t do certain things that males do”

“That wasn’t even our argument – I’m not even continuing this. It’s over. Your IQ, I can’t deal with someone with your intellect and IQ”

“What do you mean? I guarentee that if I took a IQ test I’d beat you!” Luisa went into the toilet in the bedroom but Dappy continued.

“I got an A+ in English and an A+ in maths and a B in Music” Later, Luisa exited the toilet and called Dappy a “Wasp at a picnic”. Linda told Luisa to go and tell Big Brother after she said that Dappy was sitting outside on the sofa waiting for her. After she want into the Kitchen, Dappy struck again.

“If you come near me one more time – stop following me around! Quit following me around this f***ing house, Dappy!”

“What’re you saying stuff about my mum for?”

“F**k off! Just don’t f***ing speak to me! Go to the f***ing diary room and vent about me then!”

“I’d say it to your face!”

“F**k off!”

Luisa and Dappy then moved into the living room and shouting started.

“You know why you were called the most fake Housemate?! Do you wanna know why?!”

“Tell me why!”

“Because you’ve been playing a little Mr Kiss a**e for the past week, doing the dishes and keeping your mouth shut and as soon as you open your f***ing mouth…”

“My mum taught me – treat people the way you want to be treated!”

“So why are you so disrespectful then?!”

“Disrespectful to who?”

“Go to the f***ing diary room and talk about it. I don’t want to talk about it anymore”

Luisa went on to say that Dappy was harassing her and Dappy said that he heard her being two faced in the toilet with Jasmine. Luisa responded by saying that “she would talk about you after I had a f***ing argument with you”