Big Daddy seems happy about that! Women, know you're place 

You'd think female emancipation never happened. Women chained themselves to railings, went to jail, went on hunger strike, threw themselves to their deaths under the king's horse - all so Josie could compete to be the bestest scrubber

FFS, what are they teaching them in school these days?

 Whatever they teach at schools, lets face it the feminine role models du jour are WAGs and Nigella Lawson!

And I still bet none of them are a whizz with a J-cloth - probably pay someone else to do all that. Can you see Posh Spice scrubbing the S-bend?

nah  but I can imagine Cheryl having a good go 

Not with those nails  
Very sad and stupid that Josie judges her worth as a woman by how well she can wield a fecking mop

oh that really pissed me off last night....the small amount of good feeling I had for Josie has evaporated

reminded me of my granny's generation when the highlight of their life was competitive front step scrubbing

My Nana was very competitive with Mrs. B next door about who had the whitest whites, she used to say that Mrs. B should be ashamed to put half her washing on the line, it was that grubby 

My gran had a screaming pavement row with the old cow up the road - and finished her off by telling her to go back indoors and give her filthy  towels a 'bloody good boil'

hahahahaha I miss my Nana. I remember watching 'Giant' with her once and she just flipped and started calling Liz Taylor a 'trollop'. That was the most obscene she ever got 

Oh God...I've just remembered old Mrs. B next door to my Nana upsetting her when she said Nana's brown grandchildren (including me) acted like 'little savages' 

Bliddy hell, suz

How rude of her, the old git   Anyhow how come she had foresight to know your bedroom antics Suzy  

That sort of provocation would have raised the devil in me - I'd have probably started chucking spears into her garden
You want savage...

Shoulda smeared dog poo all over her knobs and knockers Suze    

It really did upset her, and my Nana wouldn't say boo to a goose...my mother on the hand let the old cow know, so it all worked out in the end 

Dame Ann, what goes on in Parliament stays in Parliament 

I've not gone to any newspapers Suzy yet 

Funny how standards slip through time. I remember Mum coming back from 'afternoon tea' with a neighbour, and she was  because her cups didn't match her saucers!  We carried on doing that to her for years, until mugs were invented 

Nothing wrong in being a good housewife

Unless that's the only way you define your own worth.

on the contrary Demantoid

oh don't talk...my ex mother in law thought i was  the harlot from hell because my bedroom nets didn't match my downstairs ones      (not an euphemism btw )

i used to stay in her house when she went away on holiday and many a time i would trip over a scowling biddy scrubbing the front step , as i was letting standards slip by not doing it myself every day

nothing in wrong in men getting off their fat arses and doing it instead of you either

hahahahaa

but what if its my choice to do it! nowt wrong in that either is there? Some like me CHOOSE to be like it and sometimes I feel people forget that there are women out there who choose and are not put upon to do it

Every one has a choice LGS. It's what is 'expected' of ladies that is the problem. I choose to be at home atm because that is what suits me now...but I know my husband can wash a cup and change the bed so there is no expectation for me to do it all the time 

Fair enough, but even people who choose to do it should still have more to them than just being great with a can of Pledge. I work, but don't define myself as a person by how good I am at my job.

Yep I like a nice clean loo me PLUS if someone else does it i will find fault in it. Slightly OCD but if you want  a job doing right do it yourself. *gets out antibac wipes*

Exactly Deman

And my 2 sons are getting schooled in laundry, packing away, hoovering and cooking...so when they find a mate they can look after themselves while she's breaking balls at the office 

She'd probably try it on, and buy a matching bag!   

Deman u are very good at twisting peoples words to suit your own effect........ can't be bothered anymore tbh.

 Gyps I know what u mean me too.

 OH does and is quite capable but I LIKE to do it and CHOOSE TO and I also don't let a can of Pledge define me I like to think My children and Me as a person does that.

Which means they won't grow up like JJ and have a panic attack about cheese that hasn't been pre-grated, or jars that don't open themselves  
What sort of catch for any woman is he? Well done, JJ's mum, for making sure he can't look after himself, and will always need some overworked mug to do it all for him. 

I haven't twisted your words, I used my own. If you don't agree with me, that's fine. But don't get the arse just because I don't share your views.

That's the plan Deman 

you are quite welcome to your views, as I am mine and if you think thats me getting arsey thats up to you

It was the accusation of word-twisting (I haven't said you twist mine though) and the CAPITALS that did it. Never mind, eh?

If you choose to clean and love cleaning i dont get how that defines you as a person.