Sorry my mistakequote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:I actually have more sympathy for Marcus Videostar but the thread was about Siavash not Marcus.quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I find it ironic last week Marcus was sitting around with the duvet feeling sorry for himself , and this week the roles were reversed and now it is Siavash ,I think he did really have feelings for Noireen and really did not want her to leave.
Marcus had feelings for her too, hardly any sympathy for him tho.
Im not talking about you personaly, I meant the forum as a whole.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Because Siavash looks so manly, it doesn't mean he is. He is only 23 years old, the same age as Freddie. He is self confident in a quiet laid-back way and he does express himself quite well thru the medium of clothes. I myself sometimes forget that he is still very young, and he is not the outwardly mature package that we see on our screens every night. He is inexperienced with women and the incident with Noirin brings it home how young and unaware he is of people not having the same good intentions as himself. He feels used. We all would, under the same circumstances.
Noirin will want Siavash back in the future but, hopefully, he will have himself a girlfriend by that time who will shoo her away and tell her to get lost in no uncertain terms. He will have women flocking after him when he leaves the house because he is, simply, a really nice bloke.
Perfectly put, and totally agree.
quote:Originally posted by Spear:
A 'Mr. Cool' wannabe, or just a nice guy who has been hurt and needs time to recover?
I'm not sure what to think. But I find his reaction a bit irritating TBH.
The latter!! he was really falling in love with her, he needs time... I cannot believe how hard people are being about it,it's very obvious he is genuine.. and you CANNOT compare him with Marcus! if I see that one more time I will scream! marcus was not falling for her, and to listen to him last night talking with sh*t stirring bea, you'd be forgiven for thinking he was never interested in her, only himself!
Siavash was a gent about the whole thing, and a man! now he needs idiots like bea and marcus to shup about it...
quote:Originally posted by Mollie:quote:Originally posted by Spear:
A 'Mr. Cool' wannabe, or just a nice guy who has been hurt and needs time to recover?
I'm not sure what to think. But I find his reaction a bit irritating TBH.
The latter!! he was really falling in love with her, he needs time... I cannot believe how hard people are being about it,it's very obvious he is genuine.. and you CANNOT compare him with Marcus! if I see that one more time I will scream! marcus was not falling for her, and to listen to him last night talking with sh*t stirring bea, you'd be forgiven for thinking he was never interested in her, only himself!
Siavash was a gent about the whole thing, and a man! now he needs idiots like bea and marcus to shup about it...
If people think siavash was shafted by noirin...it'll pale into insignificance next week when bea and marcus take him on.
Bea as the woman he (again) has shunned and marcus as the man noirin didnt want....have their own personal axes to grind.....they may go for Lisa next week, but it'll only be to get into training for siavash.
Bea as the woman he (again) has shunned and marcus as the man noirin didnt want....have their own personal axes to grind.....they may go for Lisa next week, but it'll only be to get into training for siavash.
quote:Originally posted by fz:
If people think siavash was shafted by noirin...it'll pale into insignificance next week when bea and marcus take him on.
Bea as the woman he (again) has shunned and marcus as the man noirin didnt want....have their own personal axes to grind.....they may go for Lisa next week, but it'll only be to get into training for siavash.
I think you're right.
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Whereas Marcus lusted over Noirin I think Siavash really did like her and hoped it would lead to something permanent. He may not realise it yet but he's had a very lucky escape.
If he just liked her more deeply why did he just grope her in bed for a few nights (knowing it was just hurting his friend)? It's not like he's had much conversation with her compared to Marcus. Marcus (like Siavash) also planned with Noirin to meet her on the outside, which she agreed to and actively discussed in a bit of detail. So that would suggest to say Marcus was just lust is an exaggeration, and to say Siavash was more honourable in some way is also an exaggeration.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I find it ironic last week Marcus was sitting around with the duvet feeling sorry for himself , and this week the roles were reversed and now it is Siavash ,I think he did really have feelings for Noireen and really did not want her to leave.
Marcus had feelings for her too, hardly any sympathy for him tho.
Well there was to a certain extent VS ... but marcus is a different kettle of fish to Siavash ... he's a sulky child and I'm afraid I don't tend to dish out much sympathy to sulky children ... I prefer to put them on the naughty step until they've snapped out of it ... Siavash does not have a sulky nature and for him to be feeling sorry for himself shows that he is genuinely hurting ...
The footage the public are being shown would suggest very much otherwise. Siavash is hurting because of what he considers his 'international humiliation', in other words his image has taken a beating.
I do think Siavash did have true feelings for Noireen and as much as Marcus stalking ways with Noireen were awful to watch ,I think he also had feelings for Noireen if I had to give sympathy to anyone it is Siavash girlfriend,also Marcus was his friend and he did not care about his feelings it is Karma at its best, Bea should stop interfering and let Siavash get on with it as she is making matters worse.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:
I think Siavash has handled the whole noirin situation admirably and with class and maturity ... He has every reason to be feeling sorry for himself at the moment, because he has been hard done by ... he was badly treated, but rather than go around bitching to everybody about noirin and isaac, he took it on the chin and tried to deal with it as best he could ... He found the 'taking sides' farce (pioneered by bitchy bea) distasteful and made this known in his own inimitable and quiet way ... He is a genuinely nice guy and I think the very least he deserves is a little bit of sympathy ...
He was arrogant and thought Big Brother had put Noirin in the house for himself. How wrong he was. He basically decided to ditch a friendship by going behind the back of his friend for a quick grope in bed (in his friend's bed even). Isaac acted far better in not going behind anyone's back, sleeping separately and then sleeping without any groping.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Noirin will want Siavash back in the future
How do you know this, are you a mind reader or a fortune teller? I haven't seen any evidence that Noirin has deep feelings for him, and I've no doubt he would forget about her quickly too.
quote:Originally posted by Mollie:quote:Originally posted by Spear:
A 'Mr. Cool' wannabe, or just a nice guy who has been hurt and needs time to recover?
I'm not sure what to think. But I find his reaction a bit irritating TBH.
The latter!! he was really falling in love with her, he needs time... I cannot believe how hard people are being about it,it's very obvious he is genuine.. and you CANNOT compare him with Marcus! if I see that one more time I will scream! marcus was not falling for her, and to listen to him last night talking with sh*t stirring bea, you'd be forgiven for thinking he was never interested in her, only himself!
Siavash was a gent about the whole thing, and a man! now he needs idiots like bea and marcus to shup about it...
Spot on mollie ...
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I find it ironic last week Marcus was sitting around with the duvet feeling sorry for himself , and this week the roles were reversed and now it is Siavash ,I think he did really have feelings for Noireen and really did not want her to leave.
Marcus had feelings for her too, hardly any sympathy for him tho.
Well there was to a certain extent VS ... but marcus is a different kettle of fish to Siavash ... he's a sulky child and I'm afraid I don't tend to dish out much sympathy to sulky children ... I prefer to put them on the naughty step until they've snapped out of it ... Siavash does not have a sulky nature and for him to be feeling sorry for himself shows that he is genuinely hurting ...
The footage the public are being shown would suggest very much otherwise. Siavash is hurting because of what he considers his 'international humiliation', in other words his image has taken a beating.
Yes ... he feels like a fool ... who wouldn't given the circumstances ...? But he genuinely liked her ... I think most people can see that ...
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Noirin will want Siavash back in the future
How do you know this, are you a mind reader or a fortune teller? I haven't seen any evidence that Noirin has deep feelings for him, and I've no doubt he would forget about her quickly too.
No FT, neither a mind reader nor a fortune teller, unfortunately. Just my opinion. Noirin's current romance looks rocky, and she may realise what a good bloke Siavash really is and want him back. Just that, no analysis required really.
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Shar:
I think Siavash has handled the whole noirin situation admirably and with class and maturity ... He has every reason to be feeling sorry for himself at the moment, because he has been hard done by ... he was badly treated, but rather than go around bitching to everybody about noirin and isaac, he took it on the chin and tried to deal with it as best he could ... He found the 'taking sides' farce (pioneered by bitchy bea) distasteful and made this known in his own inimitable and quiet way ... He is a genuinely nice guy and I think the very least he deserves is a little bit of sympathy ...
He was arrogant and thought Big Brother had put Noirin in the house for himself. How wrong he was. He basically decided to ditch a friendship by going behind the back of his friend for a quick grope in bed (in his friend's bed even). Isaac acted far better in not going behind anyone's back, sleeping separately and then sleeping without any groping.
I completely disagree with you ... he didn't jump into anything immediately with noirin and when they did finally 'get together' he did not rub it in marcus's face and he did try to sort out an awkward situation ... It wasn't helped by 10 year-old marcus sulking under his duvet ...
He is not arrogant in the least ... and how do you figure on him thinking that BB put noirin in the house just for him ...?
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Noirin will want Siavash back in the future
How do you know this, are you a mind reader or a fortune teller? I haven't seen any evidence that Noirin has deep feelings for him, and I've no doubt he would forget about her quickly too.
No FT, neither a mind reader nor a fortune teller, unfortunately. Just my opinion. Noirin's current romance looks rocky, and she may realise what a good bloke Siavash really is and want him back. Just that, no analysis required really.
I agree TS ... I think noirin will come to realise what she has let slip through her fingers ...
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Shar:
I think Siavash has handled the whole noirin situation admirably and with class and maturity ... He has every reason to be feeling sorry for himself at the moment, because he has been hard done by ... he was badly treated, but rather than go around bitching to everybody about noirin and isaac, he took it on the chin and tried to deal with it as best he could ... He found the 'taking sides' farce (pioneered by bitchy bea) distasteful and made this known in his own inimitable and quiet way ... He is a genuinely nice guy and I think the very least he deserves is a little bit of sympathy ...
He was arrogant and thought Big Brother had put Noirin in the house for himself. How wrong he was. He basically decided to ditch a friendship by going behind the back of his friend for a quick grope in bed (in his friend's bed even). Isaac acted far better in not going behind anyone's back, sleeping separately and then sleeping without any groping.
I completely disagree with you ... he didn't jump into anything immediately with noirin and when they did finally 'get together' he did not rub it in marcus's face and he did try to sort out an awkward situation ... It wasn't helped by 10 year-old marcus sulking under his duvet ...
He is not arrogant in the least ... and how do you figure on him thinking that BB put noirin in the house just for him ...?
I'm with you all the way ...you see it how I do.
if he does not want people to feel sorry for him why does he keep walking around with a face that says feel sorry for?
quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:
if he does not want people to feel sorry for him why does he keep walking around with a face that says feel sorry for?
Because forgive me if I'm wrong, but when your'e feeling hurt you do tend to look down?
It would look kinda odd if Siavash was going round high fiving people when he feels like shit.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Noirin will want Siavash back in the future
How do you know this, are you a mind reader or a fortune teller? I haven't seen any evidence that Noirin has deep feelings for him, and I've no doubt he would forget about her quickly too.
No FT, neither a mind reader nor a fortune teller, unfortunately. Just my opinion. Noirin's current romance looks rocky, and she may realise what a good bloke Siavash really is and want him back. Just that, no analysis required really.
I agree TS ... I think noirin will come to realise what she has let slip through her fingers ...
hi shar .. Compared to 'daddy' (she sounds like Baby Jane ) Siavash is a Prince. I have a feeling she will come to regret her decision regarding Siavash. Especially if he makes something of himself in the fashion world after BB is over.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Shar:
I think Siavash has handled the whole noirin situation admirably and with class and maturity ... He has every reason to be feeling sorry for himself at the moment, because he has been hard done by ... he was badly treated, but rather than go around bitching to everybody about noirin and isaac, he took it on the chin and tried to deal with it as best he could ... He found the 'taking sides' farce (pioneered by bitchy bea) distasteful and made this known in his own inimitable and quiet way ... He is a genuinely nice guy and I think the very least he deserves is a little bit of sympathy ...
He was arrogant and thought Big Brother had put Noirin in the house for himself. How wrong he was. He basically decided to ditch a friendship by going behind the back of his friend for a quick grope in bed (in his friend's bed even). Isaac acted far better in not going behind anyone's back, sleeping separately and then sleeping without any groping.
I completely disagree with you ... he didn't jump into anything immediately with noirin and when they did finally 'get together' he did not rub it in marcus's face and he did try to sort out an awkward situation ... It wasn't helped by 10 year-old marcus sulking under his duvet ...
He is not arrogant in the least ... and how do you figure on him thinking that BB put noirin in the house just for him ...?
He said (maybe to Marcus I'm not sure) that he had thought that Noirin was put in the house for him, it was in one of the HLs when sat on the sofas in the LR. He also thought that somehow he wouldn't be played by Noirin like Marcus was (and like he warned Marcus against). Well he was wrong wasn't he? Siavash also told Noirin when he was getting rebuffed that he had had over a hundred girls on the outside.
He did rub it in Marcus's face by groping Noirin every night, and as I said he went behind his back too. Totally different to how Isaac did things. Yet Siavash still kept outside the bedroom, for some of the night at least, just like Marcus did.
Siavash is a great HM, popular inside and outside the house, and currently 2nd favourite to win.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
I find it ironic last week Marcus was sitting around with the duvet feeling sorry for himself , and this week the roles were reversed and now it is Siavash ,I think he did really have feelings for Noireen and really did not want her to leave.
Marcus had feelings for her too, hardly any sympathy for him tho.
Well there was to a certain extent VS ... but marcus is a different kettle of fish to Siavash ... he's a sulky child and I'm afraid I don't tend to dish out much sympathy to sulky children ... I prefer to put them on the naughty step until they've snapped out of it ... Siavash does not have a sulky nature and for him to be feeling sorry for himself shows that he is genuinely hurting ...
The footage the public are being shown would suggest very much otherwise. Siavash is hurting because of what he considers his 'international humiliation', in other words his image has taken a beating.
Yes ... he feels like a fool ... who wouldn't given the circumstances ...? But he genuinely liked her ... I think most people can see that ...
He may have liked her to some extent but so have others in the house. Was he really that much of a FRIEND with her during their time in the house?
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Siavash is a great HM, popular inside and outside the house, and currently 2nd favourite to win.
hell yeah!
He has every reason to feel a bit of self pity after being chewed and spat out by Noirin, being so used and falling for her charms but hopefully now he can pick himself up forget about it and move on like Marcus has. Everyobody else has their part to play by stop mentioning it for his own sake or he'll just feel the hurt again but he is to blame for what he did for his girlfriend who I feel sorry for but he deserves some sympathy.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:
if he does not want people to feel sorry for him why does he keep walking around with a face that says feel sorry for?
Because forgive me if I'm wrong, but when your'e feeling hurt you do tend to look down?
It would look kinda odd if Siavash was going round high fiving people when he feels like shit.
But wouldn't high fiving people have let her know that what ever you have done to me you will not get me down
I thought Marcus's week hidden under the wanket, refusing to talk to anyone, was a demonstration of a self pitying twat.
Siavash had a few down days but he seems to be back on his feet again. Give the guy a break.
Siavash had a few down days but he seems to be back on his feet again. Give the guy a break.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
I thought Marcus's week hidden under the wanket, refusing to talk to anyone, was a demonstration of a self pitying twat.
Siavash had a few down days but he seems to be back on his feet again. Give the guy a break.
Spot on.
quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:
if he does not want people to feel sorry for him why does he keep walking around with a face that says feel sorry for?
Because forgive me if I'm wrong, but when your'e feeling hurt you do tend to look down?
It would look kinda odd if Siavash was going round high fiving people when he feels like shit.
But wouldn't high fiving people have let her know that what ever you have done to me you will not get me down
But it HAD got him down, and Siavash isn't the type of person who would bottle his emotions. Some people can hide their feelings, some can't.
quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by mrMiller:
if he does not want people to feel sorry for him why does he keep walking around with a face that says feel sorry for?
Because forgive me if I'm wrong, but when your'e feeling hurt you do tend to look down?
It would look kinda odd if Siavash was going round high fiving people when he feels like shit.
But wouldn't high fiving people have let her know that what ever you have done to me you will not get me down
It would have come across as deeply false, and people would have lost respect for him. I'm actually glad he is being honest with his feelings, one of the reasons why I like him.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
But it HAD got him down, and Siavash isn't the type of person who would bottle his emotions. Some people can hide their feelings, some can't.
Again spot on Spidey.
quote:Originally posted by Free Thinking:
He may have liked her to some extent but so have others in the house. Was he really that much of a FRIEND with her during their time in the house?
Yes he was a friend to her IMO .. and continued to be even after Isaac entered the house in how he actually coped with the situation and refused to be drawn into bitchy's bea's hate campaign ... 'Others' may have liked her, but Siavash was the only one whose advances were reciprocated ...
I like Siavash...but...I wish he would not talk/mutter down into his chest all the time, never saying what he means or knowing what he means..with a forlorn face....
some people sit in swimming pools
others go around saying cock
others go around saying cock
No way is he self pitying
He has been totally and utterly humiliated in public on national TV and I can't begin to imagine what that must feel like, however, he has kept himself as much in control as possible, been very magnamanus towards Noireen and Issac in wishing them well and dealt with it all with great dignity.
I do think though that others have made it a far bigger issue in the house and actually made him feel worse for it, even though they think they are supporting him
He has been totally and utterly humiliated in public on national TV and I can't begin to imagine what that must feel like, however, he has kept himself as much in control as possible, been very magnamanus towards Noireen and Issac in wishing them well and dealt with it all with great dignity.
I do think though that others have made it a far bigger issue in the house and actually made him feel worse for it, even though they think they are supporting him
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
I thought Marcus's week hidden under the wanket, refusing to talk to anyone, was a demonstration of a self pitying twat.
Siavash had a few down days but he seems to be back on his feet again. Give the guy a break.
Spot on.
I agree with you about marcus but i think siavash is contradicting himself by saying I don't want pity then acting like that.
Now he is saying
"I`m going to take myself out of the game."
Yet another stupid misjudgment on his part.
He gets so much wrong.
Self-pitying and attention-seeking.
"I`m going to take myself out of the game."
Yet another stupid misjudgment on his part.
He gets so much wrong.
Self-pitying and attention-seeking.
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Just watching LF now.......he really is starting to push the pathos a little too far now. Worra complete wuss he is.......bloody going on and on and ON in that continuously droning monotone voice
Always talking in frikkin riddles - like some MI5 reject.
Always talking in frikkin riddles - like some MI5 reject.
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