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Not exactly. Dave and Steve were having a friendly banter in the kitchen and even though Steve found it amusing, it seemed that half the nation got out the pitchforks.





It's weird how different people read the same situation, when I watched it I didnt see it as banter at all, I read it like Dave fully intended to have a go at his 'nubs', and Steve looked about as happy as a spare prick at a wedding..
ikataili
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if he is still in the house next week ,noms will be interesting .Dave said last night that he didn't know Corin was gay, I will put money on that Corin will be one of his noms next week..

Why would you think that? One of his very closest friends in the house is Mario. Mario is gay. Dave doesn't nominate Mario. Also, Dave's sister (who he is close to) is a lesbian.

He doesn't judge gay people. If he did, he wouldn't tickle attack Mario at night and lavish him in kisses. He has stated many a time that he has time and love for everyone, regardless of their leaning. What he did say is that he wouldn't minister a gay church marriage, due to the implications involved.
Mathematics
Yes he is that bad.

If he wanted to pray so that Ife would have white skin or Mario be attracted to women, quite rightly everyone would be sickened. Sane folks don't tolerate racism or homophobia.  But to pray (and do healing hands or whatever bilge) on Steve's "nubs" so the omnipotent Dave can "fix" him into something more aesthetically pleasing for Dave's viewing is just fine and dandy.

'scuse me while I go vom.
Leccy
How can he be so anti-gay when he can't keep his hands off the fellas? (Well, Ben). I've never seen such an open display of affection between 2 straight males (ish?). Nowt wrong with it, but Dave is just a couple of movements away from spooning Ben - how can he have such an issue? And Lecs, he wants to pray for Ife's skin to turn white?? WTF?! What a friggin dick head!
Karma_
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And Lecs, he wants to pray for Ife's skin to turn white?? WTF?!
NO NO NO He didn't say that!

What I'm saying is...disabilism is the last publicly acceptable "ism" if you like...no sane, decent thinking person stands for racism or homophobia, but dodgy views like the ones he has about Steve...people attempt to justify them. My point was, no one on here would be saying it was ok if he HAD (hypothetically) said something along those lines about Ife or Mario.
Leccy
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In a conversation during the early hours of this morning Dave told Steve that "we will see people like you benefit from miracles." He cited some examples of 'healings' and 'miracles', and said he believes that one day God will be able to "give people fresh body parts". I think he is a bit of a crackpot.
See my point?

In Dave's shallow little world where people like Steve are to be patted on the head and prayed for they NEED fresh body parts to have a place in the world.

Good little get out for society that, don't bother with accessibility, don't bother with equal ops...one day everyone will be physically perfect...

That's without even beginning to get on about how dangerous and cruel claiming to be able cure terminal diseases is...

Physician Crackpot Intolerant git Shallow cruel twerp Dave, heal thyself.
Leccy
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In Dave's shallow little world where people like Steve are to be patted on the head and prayed for they NEED fresh body parts to have a place in the world.

I'm kind of dumbfounded. I'm not sure I understand you.

Why does it have to come down to "a place in society"? I'm sure that Steve would LOVE to walk again. To run, and play football with his children. I am sure Dave knows this too.
Mathematics
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I don't think you can really compare wishing somebody the use of their lost mobility to wishing a black person to be white. Or am I misunderstanding you?
Bigotry is bigotry.
 
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I'm kind of dumbfounded. I'm not sure I understand you. Why does it have to come down to "a place in society"? I'm sure that Steve would LOVE to walk again. To run, and play football with his children. I am sure Dave knows this too.
Society disables people.

You like Dave are coming at it from the medical angle, if you are interested you could look up the social model and the medical model of disability...

Steve does and can walk btw.
Leccy
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He cited some examples of 'healings' and 'miracles', and said he believes that one day God will be able to "give people fresh body parts".
  He was talking about his mates  being able to bring people back from the dead last  night too

and what's much much worse than his  Jesus wank...he is denying that Dame Shirley is an icon in Wales...for that he must die 
DanceSettee

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