Awww Aimee... that's no joke I am not sure about the break situation but surely your daughter shouldn't be paying tax on that amount of money???

It could be emergency tax Aims, which she will eventually get back but that's at the end of the tax year I think (next year)   go look at the government's website and you might find some help there 

Snap Joe! 

I'm going too ring them tomorrow cause i thought you didn't pay tax till you was 18  take her £3.40 off her wages and it's a joke 

i was thinking the same thing Joe but she's 16 should be paying tax? and do you pay tax on £14?

Not good but I don't thinkanyone is entitled to paid breaks, just breaks

i agree but 16 yr olds working 10 hrs on shit wages

Try this Aims?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Mo...ndBenefits/index.htm

Will have a look Pam, thanks 

she had a rat run over her foot at work today  (showcase cinemas)

Does she get an hour break when she works a 10 hour shift? She should get more than 15mins, paid or unpaid!

This might be the section you need regarding tax Aimee 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Mo...ayingTax/DG_10010555

she can have what ever breaks she want's but un paid  she worked 10 till 6 today and she got a lunch break at 3 

Over a certain amount of hours worked - I thought it was compulsory to pay workers on a break. Our workers over more than five hours get a paid break and food provided. Actually even if they've only worked three or four hours they get food ...............what's more their parents get discount anytime.

What tax code is on her payslip. If it's BR1 then its an emergency code and the extra tax will be refunded when all the details get caught up. Also in the NHS you don't get a paid break if you work less than 5 hours a shift.

And if you worh 4 or less you're not entitled to a break at all.

i.e. If you worked from 10 to 2 and took a 15 minute break during it you would only be entitles to be paid 3.75 hours.

If you wanted to be paid for a full 4 hours AND take a 15 minute break then you would actually have to work from 10 to 2:15.

They give us a break....but it is unpaid....

9 til 5 .....7 hours paid...... 

NHS work 9 to 5, get 2 fifteen minute tea breaks and 30 minute lunch break. Lunch break is unpaid. Therefore we get paid 7.5 hours per day, 37.5 hours for a 5 day week.

companies are really tight bastards over breaks, the law doens't make them pay for breaks , so they don't.

 15 mins  is the most any comapny has to pay for.

We have two fifteen minute breaks and a 45 minute lunch break built into our timetables, and none of them are paid - last place I worked ,teabreaks were paid though.

Soozy,you sound like a damn good employer! Not many of you about these days  unfortunately. 

I'll have too have a look at what the tax code says but my dad has come up with a theory of why she is being taxed, not sure if he's right though but he thinks it's cause i get tax credits for her, so he thinks that is classed as an income for daughter, add on her wages too that and she has gone over her tax level

Just been and had a look at her payslip on in the tax code box it says o/t week 1/ month 1 

Week 1/month 1 tax codes

Most tax codes have the effect of deducting tax evenly over the full tax year - that way your employees' take-home pay doesn’t change much from week to week or month to month. These tax codes operate on a 'cumulative' basis.

However sometimes you'll have to use a special method of working out their tax deductions - called a 'Week 1' or 'Month 1' basis depending on how often you pay them. With this method, you ignore all previous pay and tax in the year. HMRC will sort out the final position with your employee at the end of the tax year.

You must use the Week 1 or Month 1 basis if:

• HMRC tells you to
• HMRC issues a code that says Week 1 or Month 1 - for example 522L M1 or 522L W1
• your new employee gives you a P45 with a Week 1 or Month 1 code on it
• it's the 53rd pay week in a tax year (to find our more follow the link below to our guide on week 53 payments)

You may also have to use the Week 1 or Month 1 basis when your new employee gives you a P45 for an earlier year -

Does this help you at all?

It makes sense to me, but then I've been working with pays and tax for 20 years.

I think that is for her employers benefit to get her on their system .....  it isnt week 1 or month 1 in the present tax year but it generated her something although at present  incorrect !!

unless Aimee has received a notification of her personal allowance for this tax year she wont be known to the tax system and will be on the BR system

she needs to fill out a P46 from either her employer or tax office - this will generate her allowance and when her employer is issued with it it will feed the tax paid back into the next wage packet 

the tax credit claim is in your name - have you told them about Aimees job ?? and in answer to your original query all tax credits stopped apparently for 16 year olds 31st August despite what info they were aware of and will be set up again as you were told in the next couple of weeks - this seems to be a yearly thing with them .....  and 

there is no minimum age for paying tax - if you earn you are applicable but you do have the allowance to use which at the moment is approx £112 per week before tax - Aimee hasnt worked till now so she has from April to present to catch up on so if she was fortunate to catch a lot of extra hours she still shouldnt be paying anything  for some time if at all this tax year - does she get a uniform provided ??  if she does she can claim a small cleaning/washing allowance that will be added to her allowance 

If the tax doesnt get fed back into her pay when an allowance is sorted you can then send in a copy of the P45 she will be issued at the end of the tax year [April] and get it refunded that way 

I have done both ways for my Son when he first started part time and then full time work and found it was down to the tax office the employer deals with as to which way it had to be done and at what point in the tax year - we are mid way now so think it would get fed back into her pay as soon as sorted 

is this new ???  Sons G/F was still put on BR system  last month on change of job ??

This might explain a bit.

Once 31 August after your child's 16th birthday passes, you can still claim tax credits for them as long as they're under 20 and they're in full-time education or approved training. For example they're doing A levels or are on a Programme Led Apprenticeship.

No this has always been the case, If you change jobs your first pay(s) from the new employer are on an emergency code because you are usually due a pay before all your details are processed for the new job. However the way the tax system work means that the amount of overpaid tax should be repaid within the next few pays. Bear in mind though that this might not show as a refund of tax, just a reduced tax payment for a while. The precise amounts will depend on the exact amount of gross pay (pay before tax, NI and any other things are deducted) and exactly what your correct tax code should be.

If you work for an employer

If you're employed on a casual, temporary or part-time basis, by law your employer must:

• deduct tax and National Insurance contributions from your wages
• give you payslips
• deduct student loan repayments, if relevant
• give you form P45 when you leave
• give you form P60 at the end of each tax year if you still work for the employer

If you are a student doing short term work between academic term then you should ask for a 'Student's declairation form' from your employer. Once this has been processed you will pay no tax.

This is only the case if you are working BETWEEN terms, but not if you work part-time DURING the term.

MrsH is right in what she has said, but it is the employers responsibility to complete a P46, though part of it would need to be completed by your daughter.

This is taken fron HMRC's site on their instructions to employers (statements A B & C refer to the P46):

Which tax code to use when paying your employee

Once you have your employee information you can decide which tax code to use on the first pay day. This will depend on which of the statements your employee declared. Use the table below and select the relevant row depending on your employees declared statement A, B or C. Use the tax code indicated alongside in the 'Tax code to use' column and enter this tax code on your payroll records.

You should also commence student loan deductions if appropriate.

Employee information not received before the employee's first pay day

If your employee hasn't completed the P46 or provided you with the information in time for their first pay day you must still notify HMRC by completing the information online to the best of your knowledge on their behalf and use code 0T on a week 1/month 1 basis.

Note that using code 0T could result in your employee paying more tax than they need to on their first pay day - it's therefore important that you make them aware of the impact on their pay if they don't supply you with the information in time for you to complete the P46

So your daughter should have a word with her employer about this. At present the employer is using the 0T code which means that everything gets taxed. Once the P46 is sorted, the employers will be able to use the 747L code which means from that time no further tax will get deducted, and, provided they don't use the week 1 basis but use the cumulative, any tax already deducted will get repaid by the employer.

Statement A to C on the P46 reads:

Your present circumstances
Read all the following statements carefully and enter 'X'
in the one box that applies to you.
A – This is my first job since last 6 April and
I have not been receiving taxable Jobseeker's
Allowance, Employment and Support Allowance
or taxable Incapacity Benefit or a state or
occupational pension.
OR
B – This is now my only job, but since last 6 April
I have had another job, or have received
taxable Jobseeker's Allowance,
Employment and Support Allowance or
taxable Incapacity Benefit. I do not receive
a state or occupational pension.
OR
C – I have another job or receive a state or
occupational pension.

Assuming your daughter hasn't been receiving jobseekers allowance, then it is statement A which should be ticked. Money received from tax credits is not taxable and is not relevant to completing the P46.

Thanks everyone  makes sense too me now  does anyone know if this will effect the tax credits i get for her? she is starting college next week so will be a full time student and doing this part time job at weekends

If your child is aged 16 to 19 and in full-time education

If your child is aged 16 but under the age of 20, you can still get Child Tax Credit as long as they're in certain types of full-time education.

Usually this will be in a school or college, studying for qualifications like:

• A levels
• Scottish Highers
• NVQ at Level 3

You won't be able to get Child Tax Credit if your child's education is:

• provided by their employer
• provided through any office they hold - for example if your child has an official role such as scout leader or councillor, and the education is provided as part of that role
• an advanced course at higher education level, such as a degree

Full-time' means they're taught or supervised for more than an average of 12 hours a week.

If your child starts work or goes on benefits

Your Child Tax Credit payments will stop straightaway if one of the following applies:

• your child leaves full-time education or approved training, works 24 hours or more a week and gets paid
• your child starts getting benefits or tax credits

But your payments can continue if your child works and stays in full-time education or approved training. For this to happen, the education or training needs to meet the conditions explained in the first two sections above.

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Doesn't make it too clear if the child's income does or doesn't affect the amount you'll get.

I suspect it will though - I could be wrong about that.

Edit: Just read that last bit again. Sounds like your daughter's income shouldn't affect the tax credit's as long as she's working less than 20 or 24 hours a week.

Thanks Fluffy i've just found this myself  

I've just applied for Tax Credits for the first time ever. They don't make it clear at all how much you'll get or how long it'll take to come through. Since I've already signed off Jobseeker's Allowance, I'm hoping it won't take too long. Especially since the jobcentre have said I'm not entitled to run-on of Housing Benefit.

They are a pain Peter, they aren't very quick about paying out but they stop it quick  if they make you give a password remember it cause if they ask you for it anytime and you forget what it is they stop your money  i forgot and had to go to the tax office too prove who i was

These pages may be of interest Peter.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcred...uestion-how-much.htm

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcred...es/workingtaxcredit/

Peter, what reason did they give you for the non run on of HB? You qualified I'm sure

Sorry Aimee but don't know anything about the way they deal with tax credits and so on now. Hope you get it sorted

We are just small time employers (although with four shops we have a lot of part time staff) - we do look after them on a day to day basis with breaks, food etc. For small business it's not always easy re - maternity leave, sick pay etc - however we do comply - it's just being human/caring with your staff - I guess it goes into a whole different realm when you employ 100's.