Originally Posted by sparkles:
Clicks the report button for all the filth and sexual harassment and people groping at my box 
She's clicking her button now
Originally Posted by sparkles:
Clicks the report button for all the filth and sexual harassment and people groping at my box
But I was about to give it a glowing review and all 
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by sparkles:
Clicks the report button for all the filth and sexual harassment and people groping at my box
She's clicking her button now
haha!
Double clicking my mouse. 
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by sparkles:
Clicks the report button for all the filth and sexual harassment and people groping at my box
But I was about to give it a glowing review and all
Oh go on then! 
Originally Posted by sparkles:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by sparkles:
Clicks the report button for all the filth and sexual harassment and people groping at my box
But I was about to give it a glowing review and all
Oh go on then!
Well, it was quite big 
and pink and ummm it was a lovely host! I'd recommend it 
Got to fly now to give my wee bratty daughters a lift to the pizza hut. Behave yourselves you naughty peoples. 
Later sparkles
Grab me a slice or two Sparkles, I've got severe hangover munchies
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times! 
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times!
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times!
I felt like that in BB when the majority supported Aaron - just about everyone was seeing one thing and I was seeing something else.
In the end I didn't really like posting - but I knew it would all be okay again once BB had finished 
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Have a aswell coz if you're feeling as rough as I am today, you'll bloody need it
Lol Yup! was up at 7am too!
I don't feel like i don't fit in Ells, i just see the sometimes nasty little digs here and there more than i used to is all. I'm not the only one, I've had pm's from people today regarding this thread who knew exactly what i meant
Really? I don`t understand why they haven`t posted their views in this thread. Strange.
Originally Posted by Eileen Over:
I felt like that in BB when the majority supported Aaron - just about everyone was seeing one thing and I was seeing something else.
In the end I didn't really like posting - but I knew it would all be okay again once BB had finished
Yes, I can imagine that, Eileen.
I actually felt quite relieved that the majority of the forum agreed with me about that BB, as I'd had a pretty sheety time of it over Josie, the year before. I suppose that makes me a hypocrite. 
Hope I wasn't nasty to you. 
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times!
That was me Blizz but tbf you have taken it out of context,I was posting about her to Sooz and in relation to a generalisation she (Denise)had made that the only reason we (in a relationship/married) don't cheat is because we don't have the opportunity or are afraid of being found out,utter rubbish imo,as I said then it's not we couldn't,it's that we wouldn't.If you felt I was being personal to Sooz I apologise but can assure you that was not the case.....As for cliques,if Sparkles and Ells post a few pages back is how a clique is determined then yes it has been happening from a lot of FM's.I was confused why FM's were taking comments made about a HM on such a personal level and a personal slight on them.I said then and say again I have no problem with anyone having a drink ,divorce is often unavoidable,oh I just feel I'm repeating myself again.
...I have not taken a pop at any FM,but in a thread the other night that did happen yet no-one seemed to mind that which imo is wrong.
*Awaits backlash*
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by Eileen Over:
I felt like that in BB when the majority supported Aaron - just about everyone was seeing one thing and I was seeing something else.
In the end I didn't really like posting - but I knew it would all be okay again once BB had finished
Yes, I can imagine that, Eileen.
I actually felt quite relieved that the majority of the forum agreed with me about that BB, as I'd had a pretty sheety time of it over Josie, the year before. I suppose that makes me a hypocrite.
Hope I wasn't nasty to you.
Oh for goodness sake - you wouldn't know how to be nasty to anyone
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times!
Stop backing winners you! 
It's getting tedious now
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
That was me Blizz but tbf you have taken it out of context,I was posting about her to Sooz and in relation to a generalisation she (Denise)had made that the only reason we (in a relationship/married) don't cheat is because we don't have the opportunity or are afraid of being found out,utter rubbish imo,as I said then it's not we couldn't,it's that we wouldn't.If you felt I was being personal to Sooz I apologise but can assure you that was not the case.....As for cliques,if Sparkles and Ells post a few pages back is how a clique is determined then yes it has been happening from a lot of FM's.I was confused why FM's were taking comments made about a HM on such a personal level and a personal slight on them.I said then and say again I have no problem with anyone having a drink ,divorce is often unavoidable,oh I just feel I'm repeating myself again....I have not taken a pop at any FM,but in a thread the other night that did happen yet no-one seemed to mind that which imo is wrong.*Awaits backlash*
I know it was you, Lee, and I understood the context. I just thought it was a totally unnecessary thing to say to Soozy, whatever you were discussing. I'm sure that there are people on here who have strayed in their relationships, statistically it's more than likely. I don't agree with getting that personal, that's all.
I agree with you about the cliques thing. I think it was just different people supporting different HMs, but it did feel a bit uncomfortable, at times. Especially when Soozy was the only one brave enough to defend Denise in some threads!
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Stop backing winners you!
It's getting tedious now
I can't help it!
Originally Posted by Eileen Over:
Oh for goodness sake - you wouldn't know how to be nasty to anyone
You wanna bet?
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by sparkles:
I honestly don't see a 'clique,' either, but I do think that some rub certain other people up the wrong way, and sometimes, someone will have a go at someone for something; and then their BFFs on here join in (which happens sometimes,) and when this occurs, it is easy to feel 'got at.' But I am not aware of any ongoing clique;just several small bunches of people who do post together and back each other up. Some may disagree with me on this actually, and say they haven't seen this happen. Clearly, some see things that others don't.
Well that in itself is a clique so I guess Jen has a point......
I've been trapped in your box and I dunno how to get out!
Sorry just to point out.....I should have said 'well that in itself COULD BE SEEN AS a clique' instead of implying that that was what a clique was. I dunno if it is or it isn't 
Originally Posted by Eileen Over:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by Eileen Over:
I felt like that in BB when the majority supported Aaron - just about everyone was seeing one thing and I was seeing something else.
In the end I didn't really like posting - but I knew it would all be okay again once BB had finished
Yes, I can imagine that, Eileen.
I actually felt quite relieved that the majority of the forum agreed with me about that BB, as I'd had a pretty sheety time of it over Josie, the year before. I suppose that makes me a hypocrite.
Hope I wasn't nasty to you.
Oh for goodness sake - you wouldn't know how to be nasty to anyone
You haven't seen her on DS Eileen.
She's the smiling assassin
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
That was me Blizz but tbf you have taken it out of context,I was posting about her to Sooz and in relation to a generalisation she (Denise)had made that the only reason we (in a relationship/married) don't cheat is because we don't have the opportunity or are afraid of being found out,utter rubbish imo,as I said then it's not we couldn't,it's that we wouldn't.If you felt I was being personal to Sooz I apologise but can assure you that was not the case.....As for cliques,if Sparkles and Ells post a few pages back is how a clique is determined then yes it has been happening from a lot of FM's.I was confused why FM's were taking comments made about a HM on such a personal level and a personal slight on them.I said then and say again I have no problem with anyone having a drink ,divorce is often unavoidable,oh I just feel I'm repeating myself again....I have not taken a pop at any FM,but in a thread the other night that did happen yet no-one seemed to mind that which imo is wrong.*Awaits backlash*
I know it was you, Lee, and I understood the context. I just thought it was a totally unnecessary thing to say to Soozy, whatever you were discussing. I'm sure that there are people on here who have strayed in their relationships, statistically it's more than likely. I don't agree with getting that personal, that's all.
I agree with you about the cliques thing. I think it was just different people supporting different HMs, but it did feel a bit uncomfortable, at times. Especially when Soozy was the only one brave enough to defend Denise in some threads!
The point I was trying to make Blizz,maybe didn't make a good job of it it seems,is that she (Denise) either had a very dim view of other females as to why we all don't cheat,or felt the need to put others down in an attempt to justify her own behaviour.People do stray,of course they do,some have been cheated on,some have had other painful things happen,I am anything but naive in that department.I don't think anyone should feel the need to be *Brave* to post their opinion on a HM but can see what you mean,imo it had got to the stage where it was *Brave* to post a negative opinion without running the risk of being jumped on from a big height.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
You haven't seen her on DS Eileen.
She's the smiling assassin
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Originally Posted by sparkles:
I honestly don't see a 'clique,' either, but I do think that some rub certain other people up the wrong way, and sometimes, someone will have a go at someone for something; and then their BFFs on here join in (which happens sometimes,) and when this occurs, it is easy to feel 'got at.' But I am not aware of any ongoing clique;just several small bunches of people who do post together and back each other up. Some may disagree with me on this actually, and say they haven't seen this happen. Clearly, some see things that others don't.
Well that in itself is a clique so I guess Jen has a point......
I've been trapped in your box and I dunno how to get out!
Sorry just to point out.....I should have said 'well that in itself COULD BE SEEN AS a clique' instead of implying that that was what a clique was. I dunno if it is or it isn't
Ells I did say if that is what *Determines* a clique,I suppose it could be determined by lots of things really.
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
I've got to say that it felt quite uncomfortable on here, during CBB.
Depending on who you supported, probably.
I didn't like being called a 'Denise apologist' and I didn't like people being asked if they had been unfaithful to their husbands, just because they supported her. Uncalled for, IMO.
I understand that people get quite passionate about it and have obviously been guilty of the same thing myself over the years, but it was definitely lacking in humour and I actually felt more comfortable going on DS to discuss it.
I don't think it's a clique though, if that is what we are discussing here (I may have the wrong end of the stick), and my main worry was that I didn't want to fall out with friends on here, but it did feel a bit Presbyterian, at times!
That was me Blizz but tbf you have taken it out of context,I was posting about her to Sooz and in relation to a generalisation she (Denise)had made that the only reason we (in a relationship/married) don't cheat is because we don't have the opportunity or are afraid of being found out,utter rubbish imo,as I said then it's not we couldn't,it's that we wouldn't.If you felt I was being personal to Sooz I apologise but can assure you that was not the case.....As for cliques,if Sparkles and Ells post a few pages back is how a clique is determined then yes it has been happening from a lot of FM's.I was confused why FM's were taking comments made about a HM on such a personal level and a personal slight on them.I said then and say again I have no problem with anyone having a drink ,divorce is often unavoidable,oh I just feel I'm repeating myself again....I have not taken a pop at any FM,but in a thread the other night that did happen yet no-one seemed to mind that which imo is wrong.*Awaits backlash*
I saw that post to Lee
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
The point I was trying to make Blizz,maybe didn't make a good job of it it seems,is that she (Denise) either had a very dim view of other females as to why we all don't cheat,or felt the need to put others down in an attempt to justify her own behaviour.People do stray,of course they do,some have been cheated on,some have had other painful things happen,I am anything but naive in that department.I don't think anyone should feel the need to be *Brave* to post their opinion on a HM but can see what you mean,imo it had got to the stage where it was *Brave* to post a negative opinion without running the risk of being jumped on from a big height.
I know what you mean, Lee, and it was a stupid thing that Denise said. As with most things she says, it may have been said in a humorous way, but then I would say that!
Anyway, I'm glad you understand my point and I hope you don't mind me bringing it up, but it was one of the things that shocked me.
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
The point I was trying to make Blizz,maybe didn't make a good job of it it seems,is that she (Denise) either had a very dim view of other females as to why we all don't cheat,or felt the need to put others down in an attempt to justify her own behaviour.People do stray,of course they do,some have been cheated on,some have had other painful things happen,I am anything but naive in that department.I don't think anyone should feel the need to be *Brave* to post their opinion on a HM but can see what you mean,imo it had got to the stage where it was *Brave* to post a negative opinion without running the risk of being jumped on from a big height.
I know what you mean, Lee, and it was a stupid thing that Denise said. As with most things she says, it may have been said in a humorous way, but then I would say that!
Anyway, I'm glad you understand my point and I hope you don't mind me bringing it up, but it was one of the things that shocked me.
Of course I don't mind,TBH I was shocked she had said it ,I'll put that at my shock at other things she said though, I may not agree with your opinion on why she said it mind
The Darnell supporters took a battering for supporting Darnell when BB was finished we all moved on and posted happily together ..until the next BB I always think there is no point in getting personal or holding grudges with any FM whilst BB is on because we support different HMS ..none of the HMS are worth it ..and.. we could both support the same HM the next time round
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
The Darnell supporters took a battering for supporting Darnell when BB was finished we all moved on and posted happily together ..until the next BB I always think there is no point in getting personal or holding grudges with any FM whilst BB is on because we support different HMS ..none of the HMS are worth it ..and.. we could both support the same HM the next time round
Exactly Marg,if I like a HM so be it,but I never have and never will *Blindly* support one,if they're wrong they're wrong.in fact I got told off for criticising a HM I supported in the past.
Originally Posted by Baz:
I agree Marg .. Although there is definitely safety in numbers
Although there is definitely safety in numbers That could then be viewed as a *Clique* though Baz,
1. defined as a group of people who back each other up, then yes there are cliques on here, depending on which side you are then it's either friends supporting you or fm's ganging up on you
2. i hate it when (imo) holier than thou types try to dictate/impose their view as being the only view and anyone not in agreement is either stupid or ignorant
3. hijacking threads for personal conversations pm each other!
4. i can hold any opinion i want - i don't have to answer to anyone on here, (nor do i have to defend my opionion) only to my conscience
5. false bonhomie
6. and because they annoy me sooooooooo much cameron,clegg and osbourne
Originally Posted by Baz:
Depends what side of the numbers you are on Lee
Shouldn't be about numbers though should it,not to post a negative or a positive opinion,if that were the case 99% of the forum would be clique members.
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
The Darnell supporters took a battering for supporting Darnell when BB was finished we all moved on and posted happily together ..until the next BB I always think there is no point in getting personal or holding grudges with any FM whilst BB is on because we support different HMS ..none of the HMS are worth it ..and.. we could both support the same HM the next time round
Exactly Marg,if I like a HM so be it,but I never have and never will *Blindly* support one,if they're wrong they're wrong.in fact I got told off for criticising a HM I supported in the past.
Same here Lee if I like someone I will support them if I dont I will say my opinion of them ..thats what the forum is for we all have different opinions, I have been in the minority more times on here than the majority ..it is just the way it goes sometimes
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
The Darnell supporters took a battering for supporting Darnell when BB was finished we all moved on and posted happily together ..until the next BB I always think there is no point in getting personal or holding grudges with any FM whilst BB is on because we support different HMS ..none of the HMS are worth it ..and.. we could both support the same HM the next time round
Exactly Marg,if I like a HM so be it,but I never have and never will *Blindly* support one,if they're wrong they're wrong.in fact I got told off for criticising a HM I supported in the past.
Same here Lee if I like someone I will support them if I dont I will say my opinion of them ..thats what the forum is for we all have different opinions, I have been in the minority more times on here than the majority ..it is just the way it goes sometimes
I may be looking at BBGF through rose tinted glasses but I honestly can't remember having to be so explanatory or defensive when I had a negative opinion of a HM,could be there were so many FM's the constant need to do so never arose.
I'll be honest .........it did feel very awkward posting during this BB. I'm more often than not defending the under dog so should be used to being a minority poster. Somehow though it did appear quite nasty at times and I did take some of it a bit personally but I suppose that's being over sensitive.
Maybe it was something to do with defending a woman of a similar age - it was kind of like people were automatically comparing me with Denise and saying (in not so many words) - you must be just like her then.
I don't know - I did feel TBH that it might be hard to move on - time heals though.
Lee unless we are rude to another FM I really dont think it should be a problem what we say about the HMS ..they are fair game if they put themselves out there ..the media/forums will have a field day ..it happens every year,I will never meet or be best friends with the HMS I support ** thank goodness** I dont actually care if I never see them again after BB..and on that note my tea is ready.. catch you later
I'm not sure that the CBB supporters' rivalry is what Jen meant when she posted what she did, but as someone who didn't have a favourite at all ( disliked em all equally! ) , I did notice it got heated this year .Might be. as Lee said, cause the forum's so small compared to C4 days. so things were kind of magnified .
Not sure that Denise was the underdog ,Soozy, there were some right jagged comments about Nicola ( they seemed to go unchallenged though for the most part, as support seemed to be polarised a bit - Denise or Michael )