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Bea's face will wear a look of triumph whoever goes tonight naturally. We have seen that from her over and over again. But I think if Freddie goes then she will really think she has won and her and Lisa will really be cackling together. Lisa has got so cocky since she was kept in, have you noticed? Also Lisa Bea and David were sitting at the bus stop having a fag and discussing Freddie and they all agreed that he will definitely go this Friday. Now why should they think that when they knew how popular he was last week? Is it because of the way they have all spoken to him as if he's a dirty rag? Charlie ordering him about, Bea ranting on and on and on at him. Lisa has spoken to him many times with her lip curled in disdain and Dave has hardly given him the time of day since he stepped in the house.

Freddie has said he would hate to go after the week he has had, so don't think you are doing him any favours if you vote him out now.

Keep Siavash and Freddie in until the final week and show Lisa Bea and Charlie that we, the viewers, have the final say, not them.

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MozartMember

8/14/091:37 AM

MoominMember

Sorry, no can do.
If Bea and co DO think they've won tonight, cos Freddie goes, their downfall and collapse over the next couple of weeks will be even more spectacular.

8/14/091:38 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

8/14/091:38 AM

justafriendMember

well done squiggle

8/14/091:39 AM

Former Member

Time for Freddie to go home imo, want entertaining , not being bored to death

8/14/091:41 AM

15:10Member

quote:
Originally posted by Moomin:
their downfall and collapse over the next couple of weeks will be even more spectacular.

Don't think so. And Bea doesn't deserve to be in there longer than Freddie. She's smug and needs to be brought down a peg or three. Freddie needs to stay tonight to smack the smug off her face.

8/14/091:41 AM

Lord LucanMember

I still can't stand Marcus but it's Freddie's turn to go now because as Bea said in the DR she hopes "The public will put him in his place"

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Game over Freddie

8/14/091:42 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Freddie has been much more popular with Marcus and can be again. Freddie has been treated disgustingly in there and deserves to see them go ahead of him. Anything else will be grossly unfair and Marcus himself has said he wants to go. Freddie has proved himself amazingly strong to recover from pressure that would have broken many of us on this forum. I want to give him the chance to bounce back again and see those two cows Bea and Lisa walk out that door.

8/14/091:43 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
Bea's face will wear a look of triumph whoever goes tonight naturally. We have seen that from her over and over again. But I think if Freddie goes then she will really think she has won and her and Lisa will really be cackling together. Lisa has got so cocky since she was kept in, have you noticed? Also Lisa Bea and David were sitting at the bus stop having a fag and discussing Freddie and they all agreed that he will definitely go this Friday. Now why should they think that when they knew how popular he was last week? Is it because of the way they have all spoken to him as if he's a dirty rag? Charlie ordering him about, Bea ranting on and on and on at him. Lisa has spoken to him many times with her lip curled in disdain and Dave has hardly given him the time of day since he stepped in the house.

Freddie has said he would hate to go after the week he has had, so don't think you are doing him any favours if you vote him out now.

Keep Siavash and Freddie in until the final week and show Lisa Bea and Charlie that we, the viewers, have the final say, not them.

8/14/091:44 AM

justafriendMember

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Lucan:
I still can't stand Marcus but it's Freddie's turn to go now because as Bea said in the DR she hopes "The public will put him in his place" .

Game over Freddie .

i cant wait for the time the public puts cruella in her place either.

8/14/091:45 AM

Scooby dooMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
Bea's face will wear a look of triumph whoever goes tonight naturally. We have seen that from her over and over again. But I think if Freddie goes then she will really think she has won and her and Lisa will really be cackling together. Lisa has got so cocky since she was kept in, have you noticed? Also Lisa Bea and David were sitting at the bus stop having a fag and discussing Freddie and they all agreed that he will definitely go this Friday. Now why should they think that when they knew how popular he was last week? Is it because of the way they have all spoken to him as if he's a dirty rag? Charlie ordering him about, Bea ranting on and on and on at him. Lisa has spoken to him many times with her lip curled in disdain and Dave has hardly given him the time of day since he stepped in the house.

Freddie has said he would hate to go after the week he has had, so don't think you are doing him any favours if you vote him out now.

Keep Siavash and Freddie in until the final week and show Lisa Bea and Charlie that we, the viewers, have the final say, not them.

I hope Freddie stays. Bea needs to go way before Freddie does.

8/14/091:46 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Freddie has been much more popular with Marcus and can be again. Freddie has been treated disgustingly in there and deserves to see them go ahead of him. Anything else will be grossly unfair and Marcus himself has said he wants to go. Freddie has proved himself amazingly strong to recover from pressure that would have broken many of us on this forum. I want to give him the chance to bounce back again and see those two cows Bea and Lisa walk out that door.

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

8/14/091:46 AM

subatomic partygirlMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Freddie has been much more popular with Marcus and can be again. Freddie has been treated disgustingly in there and deserves to see them go ahead of him. Anything else will be grossly unfair and Marcus himself has said he wants to go. Freddie has proved himself amazingly strong to recover from pressure that would have broken many of us on this forum. I want to give him the chance to bounce back again and see those two cows Bea and Lisa walk out that door.

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

What ^ said. All of it.

8/14/091:52 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

I agree with some of what you say kaffy. In respect of Freddy, I don't think these past couple of weeks have done him any favours. He is only human though, with faults like everyone and I think what Bea has done would've tried the patience of a saint. Unfortunately, people won't give him any slack in the house or out of it

I know what you mean about Siavash. I do like him, but yes there is something that I cannot put my finger on either.

8/14/091:56 AM

subatomic partygirlMember

quote:
Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

I agree with some of what you say kaffy. In respect of Freddy, I don't think these past couple of weeks have done him any favours. He is only human though, with faults like everyone and I think what Bea has done would've tried the patience of a saint. Unfortunately, people won't give him any slack in the house or out of it

I know what you mean about Siavash. I do like him, but yes there is something that I cannot put my finger on either.

To be fair, quite a lot of people, on here and out there, have cut Freddie quite a bit of slack over the weeks. He annoyed me from Day 1 but I recognised a decent enough chap and tolerated him (one of the best of a bad bunch, etc). Recently though, his behaviour would have tried the patience of a saint too. Not defending Bea, by the way, she totally (aatempted) to capitalise on Freddie's social weaknesses and fondness for her to elevate her status with the only bunch left that are too blind to see what she is or too desperate for numbers to care (Lisa, Charlie and David).

8/14/092:02 AM

LiverpoollassMember

quote:
Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:

To be fair, quite a lot of people, on here and out there, have cut Freddie quite a bit of slack over the weeks. He annoyed me from Day 1 but I recognised a decent enough chap and tolerated him (one of the best of a bad bunch, etc). Recently though, his behaviour would have tried the patience of a saint too. Not defending Bea, by the way, she totally (aatempted) to capitalise on Freddie's social weaknesses and fondness for her to elevate her status with the only bunch left that are too blind to see what she is or too desperate for numbers to care (Lisa, Charlie and David).

Yes, some have, but an awful lot haven't.

I don't think his behaviour has been awful at all. I think it has been understandable and long in coming

Now see what you have made me do, I said I wouldn't do this

8/14/092:06 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

Hi Subby, Liverpool Lass

I don't 'hate' Freddie by any means, and for a while I even liked his eccentricity. I remember way back though someone here (can't remember who) posted that we didn't see all and while they liked Freddie he would probably annoy the pants of them if they had to live with him. I think we're just seeing that now. He takes things too far and I do think he's getting a little bit sure of himself. I'm not sure he's the poor little waif some are portaying him as either, I'm pretty sure he feels superior to all of them in there (ok, so he's right on most counts, but still..!)

Bottom line is I don't really think he has a cat in hell's chance of eventually winning now, so it's Marcus for me.

8/14/092:09 AM

subatomic partygirlMember

quote:
Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
quote:
Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:

To be fair, quite a lot of people, on here and out there, have cut Freddie quite a bit of slack over the weeks. He annoyed me from Day 1 but I recognised a decent enough chap and tolerated him (one of the best of a bad bunch, etc). Recently though, his behaviour would have tried the patience of a saint too. Not defending Bea, by the way, she totally (aatempted) to capitalise on Freddie's social weaknesses and fondness for her to elevate her status with the only bunch left that are too blind to see what she is or too desperate for numbers to care (Lisa, Charlie and David).

Yes, some have, but an awful lot haven't.

I don't think his behaviour has been awful at all. I think it has been understandable and long in coming

Now see what you have made me do, I said I wouldn't do this

Sorry.

You don't have to justify why you like him or think he's behaved well, LL. I like seeing people see the good in peeps and he's far less deliberately toxic than some of the others. I truly believe his intentions are largely positive...he just grates a bit.

8/14/092:10 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

The fact that through careful editing by BB to show the HM's they favour in a good light and all the ones they want to kick out in a poorer light, ie no cider theft shown last night makes me more determined than ever that they won't get away with pulling the wool over our eyes.

We have been left with the horrible task of deciding between two of the best house mates in there. Not the ones we wish to see go, no the ones they want to get rid of. Sophie didn't receive any punishment for saying several times to nominate her, the punishment is supposed to be that they can now talk about nominations, what a joke! Its been nothing short of a fiddle by BB, not punishing any of Lisa's group even when Lisa was shown quite clearly on the H/L's drawing initials and mouthing names.

This BB has been a farce and if Charlie or Bea are still there in the final then I say it will be a complete annihilation of the fans by the BB machine.

8/14/092:12 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
Hi Subby, Liverpool Lass I don't 'hate' Freddie by any means, and for a while I even liked his eccentricity. I remember way back though someone here (can't remember who) posted that we didn't see all and while they liked Freddie he would probably annoy the pants of them if they had to live with him. I think we're just seeing that now. He takes things too far and I do think he's getting a little bit sure of himself. I'm not sure he's the poor little waif some are portaying him as either, I'm pretty sure he feels superior to all of them in there (ok, so he's right on most counts, but still..!)

Bottom line is I don't really think he has a cat in hell's chance of eventually winning now, so it's Marcus for me.

Sorry Kaffy to disagree with you, but watch carefully its Lisa that's the cocky one now.

8/14/092:14 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
Bea's face will wear a look of triumph whoever goes tonight naturally. We have seen that from her over and over again. But I think if Freddie goes then she will really think she has won and her and Lisa will really be cackling together. Lisa has got so cocky since she was kept in, have you noticed? Also Lisa Bea and David were sitting at the bus stop having a fag and discussing Freddie and they all agreed that he will definitely go this Friday. Now why should they think that when they knew how popular he was last week? Is it because of the way they have all spoken to him as if he's a dirty rag? Charlie ordering him about, Bea ranting on and on and on at him. Lisa has spoken to him many times with her lip curled in disdain and Dave has hardly given him the time of day since he stepped in the house.

Freddie has said he would hate to go after the week he has had, so don't think you are doing him any favours if you vote him out now.

Keep Siavash and Freddie in until the final week and show Lisa Bea and Charlie that we, the viewers, have the final say, not them.

Completely agree. KEEP FREDDIE IN.

8/14/092:14 AM

figtreeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

I agree with some of what you say kaffy. In respect of Freddy, I don't think these past couple of weeks have done him any favours. He is only human though, with faults like everyone and I think what Bea has done would've tried the patience of a saint. Unfortunately, people won't give him any slack in the house or out of it

I know what you mean about Siavash. I do like him, but yes there is something that I cannot put my finger on either.

WHY did Siavash give Bea his red hat?

8/14/092:15 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Now that Freddie is no longer the love-sick puppy but knows exactly who Bea is and what she is capable of, knowing the viewer wants him to stay would give him the confidence he needs to stand up to her.

Keep Freddie in.

8/14/092:16 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:

Sorry Kaffy to disagree with you, but watch carefully its Lisa that's the cocky one now.

Oh, I know she is cocky too.. but Marcus could take her on as well. No problem disgreeing anyway. I think most people agree it's the worst possible choice for an eviction, and it's too close to call imo.

8/14/092:17 AM

jennywrenMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Freddie has been much more popular with Marcus and can be again. Freddie has been treated disgustingly in there and deserves to see them go ahead of him. Anything else will be grossly unfair and Marcus himself has said he wants to go. Freddie has proved himself amazingly strong to recover from pressure that would have broken many of us on this forum. I want to give him the chance to bounce back again and see those two cows Bea and Lisa walk out that door.

Quite right, Squiggle.

8/14/092:18 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by figtree:

WHY did Siavash give Bea his red hat?

To make her look silly?

8/14/092:18 AM

old hippy guyMember

I can understand what the OP is saying, BUT, ya gotta play the "long game" YES SHE will be a smug cow when/if Fred goes, she WILL have won (in HER eyes) but she will have only won a BATTLE and NOT the WAR,
KEEPING fred in will only be a short term victory, they will be on him like a pack of dogs, AND I am sorry Siavash fans, but I dont thinkg for ONE minute that HE will stand up for Fred, he is already sensing which way the wind is blowing, and will either switch sides OR just keep his head down, but DONT expect ANY back up for Fred from him,

MARCUS, WELL, this is how I see events unfolding IF Marcus stays,
for the first couple of days after Fred goes, team Bastards will be grinning like the proverbial cheshire cat, OH they will LOVE Marcus, they will fawn over him and tell him they always liked him and how much BETTER than Fred he is, UNTILL, Bea starts opperation Marcus, (I would say D day for operation Marcus would be tuesday or wednesday next week)
A row between Bea and Marcus will be "engineered" by Bea, she will turn on the waterworks, to Charlie who will then get his mum (lisa) involved, and before you know it, it will be MARCUS V BEA for eviction,
obviously Marcus would win, and I think we might have ONE more eviction after that before Roddy wins,n that would be Marcus Siavash...with perhaps Dave or Sophie and it might be a double (cause they aint done one yet),
but the last week will be a dogfight between Lisa and Marcus OR Fred, and I dont think Fred has what it takes, Marcus on the other hand.......

8/14/092:20 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by jennywren:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Now that Freddie is no longer the love-sick puppy but knows exactly who Bea is and what she is capable of, knowing the viewer wants him to stay would give him the confidence he needs to stand up to her.

Keep Freddie in.

Couldn't agree more. Hope Marcus comes on here and gives us all an insight into life in there with the Gruesome Crew.

8/14/092:22 AM

Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]Member

Yes, I do want Bea to think she`s winning - it will be so funny watching her think she has the upper hand, because we all know that over confidence eventually leads to one`s downfall.

I say - give her enough rope for her to hang herself.

Also I can`t bear the thought of Freddie being in there without Marcus. It will turn into the biggest mass bullying session without Marcus there to back Freddie. And I think it could do Freddie harm psychologically if that woman lays into him any more.

8/14/092:22 AM

subatomic partygirlMember

quote:
Originally posted by old hippy guy:
I can understand what the OP is saying, BUT, ya gotta play the "long game" YES SHE will be a smug cow when/if Fred goes, she WILL have won (in HER eyes) but she will have only won a BATTLE and NOT the WAR,
KEEPING fred in will only be a short term victory, they will be on him like a pack of dogs, AND I am sorry Siavash fans, but I dont thinkg for ONE minute that HE will stand up for Fred, he is already sensing which way the wind is blowing, and will either switch sides OR just keep his head down, but DONT expect ANY back up for Fred from him,

MARCUS, WELL, this is how I see events unfolding IF Marcus stays,
for the first couple of days after Fred goes, team Bastards will be grinning like the proverbial cheshire cat, OH they will LOVE Marcus, they will fawn over him and tell him they always liked him and how much BETTER than Fred he is, UNTILL, Bea starts opperation Marcus, (I would say D day for operation Marcus would be tuesday or wednesday next week)
A row between Bea and Marcus will be "engineered" by Bea, she will turn on the waterworks, to Charlie who will then get his mum (lisa) involved, and before you know it, it will be MARCUS V BEA for eviction,
obviously Marcus would win, and I think we might have ONE more eviction after that before Roddy wins,n that would be Marcus Siavash...with perhaps Dave or Sophie and it might be a double (cause they aint done one yet),
but the last week will be a dogfight between Lisa and Marcus OR Fred, and I dont think Fred has what it takes, Marcus on the other hand.......

Bea knows that too...I'd be panicking that Marcus is staying if I were her.

8/14/092:22 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by old hippy guy:
I can understand what the OP is saying, BUT, ya gotta play the "long game" YES SHE will be a smug cow when/if Fred goes, she WILL have won (in HER eyes) but she will have only won a BATTLE and NOT the WAR,
KEEPING fred in will only be a short term victory, they will be on him like a pack of dogs, AND I am sorry Siavash fans, but I dont thinkg for ONE minute that HE will stand up for Fred, he is already sensing which way the wind is blowing, and will either switch sides OR just keep his head down, but DONT expect ANY back up for Fred from him,

MARCUS, WELL, this is how I see events unfolding IF Marcus stays,
for the first couple of days after Fred goes, team Bastards will be grinning like the proverbial cheshire cat, OH they will LOVE Marcus, they will fawn over him and tell him they always liked him and how much BETTER than Fred he is, UNTILL, Bea starts opperation Marcus, (I would say D day for operation Marcus would be tuesday or wednesday next week)
A row between Bea and Marcus will be "engineered" by Bea, she will turn on the waterworks, to Charlie who will then get his mum (lisa) involved, and before you know it, it will be MARCUS V BEA for eviction,
obviously Marcus would win, and I think we might have ONE more eviction after that before Roddy wins,n that would be Marcus Siavash...with perhaps Dave or Sophie and it might be a double (cause they aint done one yet),
but the last week will be a dogfight between Lisa and Marcus OR Fred, and I dont think Fred has what it takes, Marcus on the other hand.......

8/14/092:24 AM

tuppsMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
I repeat... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Support Marcus - if Freddie stays they will trample all over him without Marcus' support (Siavash will be as much use as a chocolate teapot to Freddie) I don't believe Freddie can win the series, certainly not if Marcus goes at this stage. It will end up being Sophie if we're not careful.

Vote Freddie out. Marcus for the win. You know it makes sense.

Freddie has been much more popular with Marcus and can be again. Freddie has been treated disgustingly in there and deserves to see them go ahead of him. Anything else will be grossly unfair and Marcus himself has said he wants to go. Freddie has proved himself amazingly strong to recover from pressure that would have broken many of us on this forum. I want to give him the chance to bounce back again and see those two cows Bea and Lisa walk out that door.

I really don't believe he will ever recover the popularity he had in the early days, much of which was born out of supporting the underdog. He has shown too much of his bad points to get enough back to win imo. Marcus on the other hand has just gathered strength as the series has progressed. Siavash? I liked him, but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that I don't trust about him now. I don't think he's the sort of person you can rely on. I'm looking forward to tonight, it's the first eviction that hasn't been a foregone conclusion and I really hope Marcus survives.

Yep yep.. out of the two, Marcus is the one you need in there to even get a wobble out of Team Lisa.

8/14/092:28 AM

old hippy guyMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:

Just to put the other side for fairness OHG. Marcus did hide away for several days after Noirin did what she did. Freddie although he looks less robust has got up and staggered back in no matter how many times they have pushed him down. I have to admire him.[/QUOTE]

I agree on both points Marcus DID go quiet for a while after Noirin turned her back on him, I think he spent sometime "having a word" with himself, he also went through a "typical" "I am hurt therefore I will have a tantrum" stage, but I think he has come out of it STRONGER it sees to have done him some good, I BELIEVE he learnt something about himself,
FRED, he is gone down hill and its been a slow steady decline I think it is just getting a bit much for him, the sniping the digs, everytime he speaks either Lisa or Charlie or Dogface are waiting for a chance to jump on him, and he is tired of it,
WITHOUT MARCUS for support I am sorry but I just DONT think he can "hack" it for another 2 weeks or more,
I think Marcus would LOVE it, he would roll up his sleeves and WADE IN, AND he doesnt NEED backup,
its a SHIT eviction (and a smack in the face for those who say they "rig" em, why would they put THE 2 biggest players up in a face off, IF they could get away with a "twist")?
SO, do we want to see Fred "sent to Coventry" picked on ganged up on and or ignored by the others,?
OR would we rather see Marcus fighting for the good guys,...AND not being in bed by 12 most nights?

8/14/092:37 AM

LiverpoollassMember

8/14/092:38 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by old hippy guy:
.....SO, do we want to see Fred "sent to Coventry" picked on ganged up on and or ignored by the others,?
OR would we rather see Marcus fighting for the good guys,...AND not being in bed by 12 most nights?

Are you wanting Marcus to stay now OHG?

8/14/092:40 AM

KaffsMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by old hippy guy:
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Originally posted by squiggle:

Just to put the other side for fairness OHG. Marcus did hide away for several days after Noirin did what she did. Freddie although he looks less robust has got up and staggered back in no matter how many times they have pushed him down. I have to admire him.

I agree on both points Marcus DID go quiet for a while after Noirin turned her back on him, I think he spent sometime "having a word" with himself, he also went through a "typical" "I am hurt therefore I will have a tantrum" stage, but I think he has come out of it STRONGER it sees to have done him some good, I BELIEVE he learnt something about himself,
FRED, he is gone down hill and its been a slow steady decline I think it is just getting a bit much for him, the sniping the digs, everytime he speaks either Lisa or Charlie or Dogface are waiting for a chance to jump on him, and he is tired of it,
WITHOUT MARCUS for support I am sorry but I just DONT think he can "hack" it for another 2 weeks or more,
I think Marcus would LOVE it, he would roll up his sleeves and WADE IN, AND he doesnt NEED backup,
its a SHIT eviction (and a smack in the face for those who say they "rig" em, why would they put THE 2 biggest players up in a face off, IF they could get away with a "twist")?
SO, do we want to see Fred "sent to Coventry" picked on ganged up on and or ignored by the others,?
OR would we rather see Marcus fighting for the good guys,...AND not being in bed by 12 most nights?

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with you all the way OHG!

8/14/092:43 AM

old hippy guyMember

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
.....SO, do we want to see Fred "sent to Coventry" picked on ganged up on and or ignored by the others,?
OR would we rather see Marcus fighting for the good guys,...AND not being in bed by 12 most nights?

Are you wanting Marcus to stay now OHG?

YIP, I KNOW I was saying I believe he WANTS TO GO,so the people should LET him go,
but I have had a re think, I think Fred will have a really HARD TIME if he stays, I think Marcus WANTS to go, but IF he is kept in he will hear "the message"! cause he is very astute, he will KNOW WHY he has been kept in, so that he can take on team bastards, and I am quite sure he wont let us down,
as I say I LIKE FRED but I can see him having problems on his own aginst those bastards,
at least Marcus will give them a FIGHT,

8/14/093:04 AM

**Nipple Twister**Member

I want Freddy to stay.

8/14/093:21 AM

HyjeanMember

Freddie must go, save Marcus,

8/14/093:24 AM

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