Very good point longcat - At least Sov did things - even if it annoyed everyone else - Heidi just lay on her bed!!

Heidi was lazy, and her inactivity would have started to grate on the others if she had stayed any longer.

i really can't see what sov did that was so wrong, she wasn't nasty, didn't bitch, she was just a bit awkward and truculent.

I thought she was selfish and lazy. She was happy for other people to cook her grub, tidy up after her, etc. But she wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone else.

is that so bad? do you feel the same about heidi?

Yes, I did feel the same way about Heidi. And if you're in an enclosed situation like that, I think it's pretty bad if you not only don't pull your weight, but actively refuse to when asked.

but they were happy for heidi to do it  and not sov, it seems, so rather invalidates their  stated motivations.

I do believe that Heidi was ill and had only just lost her brother.

Nah - I think if Heidi had still been in there, her idleness would have started to grate by now as well. In the first week, no-one minded Sov being a lazy cow, either.

it certainly did't grate on steph or vinnie, wonder why.

That would explain a lot, if they knew. Did she tell them about her brother?

Sov was ill too, she had problems with her wisdom teeth.

Heidi not lazy
Sov lazy
Equals
Ageism
QED

I for one is glad that SOV has gone, that girl rubbed me the wrong way and gave young adults like me a bad name.

Of course nobody would have been happy for Heidi to be so lazy and it definately would have been addressed had she still been in there. Sov was unbearable and I feel sorry for the hm's having to put up with her. She was obnoxious and her exit was just

well, what can i say, she wasn't spiteful or nasty, so she was ok by me.

I didn't like Sov at the beginning and it was never about her laziness.  The "don't patronise me, don't patronise me" strop to Stephanie and Ivana when they were trying their best, throwing the food down (and Stephanie hadn't shown her not so nice side at that point), and during the punishment with Jonas she made him feel awful.  Just her attitude generally the first week pissed me off.  Then she sort of chilled I think and became funny.  I think she quite enjoys having authority to rebel against.  Loved Jonas, "I was just standing in the garden and a pear flew past".  That sort of thing I liked about Sov. 

Don't care whether Heidi or Sov were lazy.  Loved Heidi.  Liked Sov in the end

me too noty.

people seem to find very difficult to appreciate  her good points.

I liked her in the beginning. I liked Heidi too. But by the time they went, they were both getting on my norks.

See, I have a huge problem with sarcastic teens who think that the world owe's them something, and that they don't have to move off their arse. 


Also, the 'carefully selected' panel on BBBM didn't have 1 bad thing to say to her.  My own teens were watching her strut her stuff and listened to the obnoxius shite that came out of her mouth, and were actually grinning in agreement.  Nice message!  until I turned it off in disgust.

yes i think a fair few think sov was the verklas effect in action.

I like Sov in the beginning. However, she gradually showed herself to be a lazy, selfish, stroppy, immature little madam - and I'm glad she has gone.

she offered to help do loads of stuff, she was up for all the tasks, she gave as good as she got in any argument, she wasn't allowed to cook so mad a protest about being treated like a kid...she was called cow, bitch, nonentity, parasite to name but a few, yet sov is the bad one...I just don't get it, she told dane what loads of us think about him and shut him up...she was the only one to challenge vinnie's authority....she thought the same about steph that the majority of viewers are starting to think about her.....yet sov was a useless housmate...I just don't get it.


She was able to have a conversation, unlike heidi, stephen alex dane nic, yet she was rubbish...I just don't get it...



Snobbery to the extreme thats all this forum is when certain members describe sov, it's like i'm posting with stephanies...

Personally speaking, it is not snobbery at all. I disliked Sov for her horrible don't care attitude and inability to be a team player in a house she had to share with 11 others. Her attitude, rudness and overall bolshiness was unbearable and would be to most people that had to share with her. Snobbiness certainly played no part in my dislike for her. FYI - I think Stephanie is a dreadful snob and I don't like her or her condesending attitude.

Having seen what you call people who dare to have different opinion to you in another thread, I'm not surprised you defend Sov and her attitude. Not worth debating with you.