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They are implementing ID cards in Manchester ...... am i wrong in thinking this was to be scrapped? News

I'm sure there were not very many people who actually wanted them, and at 5bn!! I think they are a very baaad idea and a total waste of money.

The reduced cost Pfft, thats only so people will get them now so they can then make it compulsory to have one on the basis "The trial scheme was a success"
May as well just chip us all now and get it over and done with Roll Eyes

What are your thoughts?

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I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily shell out ÂĢ30 at this point .... (apart from the civil liberties issues and the incompetence of the government in managing IT projects which in themselves mean I'd not be at all happy) .... I mean why would they? Confused
maybe she'll give out a free telly with every one and just put it on expenses Ninja
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
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I don' need an ID card i know who I am, I have name labels and everything Nod
Big Grin I have mine stitched into my undergarments in case of momentary confusion.


I was going to have mine tattooed on my arm but I forgot why I was there!!
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captain marbles
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily shell out ÂĢ30 at this point .... (apart from the civil liberties issues and the incompetence of the government in managing IT projects which in themselves mean I'd not be at all happy) .... I mean why would they? Confused
maybe she'll give out a free telly with every one and just put it on expenses Ninja


Isn't it ÂĢ30 for the card and a ÂĢ30 administration fee? I'm sure I read that somewhere last week.
Croctacus
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily shell out ÂĢ30 at this point .... (apart from the civil liberties issues and the incompetence of the government in managing IT projects which in themselves mean I'd not be at all happy) .... I mean why would they? Confused
maybe she'll give out a free telly with every one and just put it on expenses Ninja


Isn't it ÂĢ30 for the card and a ÂĢ30 administration fee? I'm sure I read that somewhere last week.


In the article quoted it says costs will be capped at ÂĢ30 for 2 years, then individuals will have to pay extra - estimated to take the cost to ÂĢ60.
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Shows how out-of-touch "they" are.

4 out of 5 Mancunians voted against the congestion charge and there was a general satisfaction that we had cocked a snoop on behalf of the nation.

I think there is a general wish to vote against this lot or refuse to be ID’d just to send a message - never mind the rights or wrongs of ID cards.

The only way this is going to be a success for the government is if people are forced to show ID when say, registering for a doctor, booking an appointment at hospital etc. I don’t know if the government are going to (or have already) colluded with business and service providers on this as I have taken little notice of it so far.

Nor have I seen any publicity about it as I go about my travels but then again I walk around with my head in the clouds anyway Big Grin

I think I would need ID to get this ID card in the form of a birth certificate and I’m not sure where that is and getting a copy will be an additional cost for people who have lost their BCs.

IF it contained useful info such as blood type and organ donor preferences, next-of-kin etc it may have some merit but the cost should not be entirely borne by the public.

AND what if it contains data that is subject to change like an address, number of children etc? It will need renewing.
Baby Bunny
ID cards are going to be introduced stealthily,no doubt.I dont drive and I don't have a valid passport,but I'm increasingly asked for photo ID for anything from purchasing tickets to getting a document signed by my solicitor!I missed out on tickets for Reading Festival last year because I couldnt produce photo ID...FFS was only buying one ticket..was hardly going to make a fortune on chuffing ebay out of it :Roll Eyes
M
Not ID cards but the DNA database ...

Has anyone heard of UK Biobank, operated in conjunction with the NHS? They're recruiting at this very moment by targetted mail for people to take part. They collect DNA samples as part of the long-term study and access your NHS medical records.

If the government, as I suspect, have a long term goal of collecting DNA samples from every citizen then here's the start of future commercial exploitation of DNA I reckon.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/t...nes/article_1381.jsp

"The UK Medical Research Council (MRC), the Wellcome Trust and the Department of Health announced the allocation of ÂĢ45 million start-up funding to the UK Biobank in April 2002. The project “will be the world’s biggest study of the role of nature and nurture in health and disease”. Yet, before a single sample has been collected, the UK Biobank is mired in controversy about its aims, its costs, its underlying science and its relationship to commercial exploitation."
FM

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